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Old 02-06-2007, 01:03 PM
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Default Genesis alloy Clutch Engagment?

My clutch shoes are wearing a bit, and I was wondering if there were any shoes that would engage
at lower rpm to allow low speed driving rather than it taking off half way up the rev range at 20mph???

I have seen CEN now make heavier blue shoes:
http://www.customrccars.com/product_...at=21&custom=0

As well as lighter red shoes
http://www.customrccars.com/product_...at=23&custom=0

Or there are the adjustable Nova shoe:
http://www.novarcproducts.com/4shoeclutchshoes.html


Would heavier allow for a more progressive take up or lighter ones?

Any thoughts/experience anyone?
Old 02-06-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default RE: Genesis alloy Clutch Engagment?

One would assume that if you used a heavier clutch shoe with the same springs that you would get engagement at an lower rpm. Due to the fact the the centrifical forces on the clutch shoes & springs would be more, causing the earlier engagement.
Simmilarly a lighter shoe with the same spring would mean a higher rpm engagement.

I say this in theory only, as I havn't tried it in practice yet,
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Default RE: Genesis alloy Clutch Engagment?

It looks like it is just me and you .46NitroAddict today.

As for above, I was thinking that too, but I was wondering if a heavier shoe would
grip harder sooner and a lighter shoe possible slip for a while before fully engaging.


CEN, Where are you guys. [sm=teeth_smile.gif]

Anyone tried any?
Old 02-06-2007, 06:26 PM
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I tried those New era aluminum 4 pc. clutch shoes. They offered me no noticable adjustability or performance. Also they wore fast exposing the hardened steel spring and leaving deep grooves in the bell. IMO the 4 shoe clutches that come with the truck have performed well. I have no lapse of engagement from a stand still nor do I wind up rpm's to get going. I hear other trucks do that and just thought it was," a small motor and needs to wind up" issue. But not the genny! This truck should launch from a start. If your shoes are worn replace them with the stock ones, you do not realize how durable they are until you spend $ on those "upgrades".
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Default RE: Genesis alloy Clutch Engagment?

Domanomous,

So there was no difference regardless with what you did with the Nova weights?
Interesting. So would you say they wore faster than stock, or the same?


Anyone else have experience with alloy shoes?
Anyone tried the Cen shoes?
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Default RE: Genesis alloy Clutch Engagment?

That is correct. I moved the weights Min to Max and it still launched like always. Down side was the wear on the bell. It did not last as long or well as the stock ones. My guess is these aluminum parts do reduce the rotating mass but are almost disposable for durability. If you race and can afford to replace after each race then it is an advantage to you I suppose. My guess is these small cnc machines available today make small parts like this easy to do.
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Default RE: Genesis alloy Clutch Engagment?

Do the Newera ones have weights also?

I am in two minds what to do now. [&o]

Thanks for your advise though.
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The new era ones had short and long setscrews and maybe 3 places to set them. They were very small (maybe 1.5mm or less) and the holes were positioned to put the weight closer or farther to the center. You will have to pull the motor to move the setscrews around for adjustment and do not forget to lock tite because if it works its way out it will end up in the bell housing.
And to be totally accurate and honest, I ran about 2 tanks with the small screws in close, then changed to the long screws on the ends (heaviest). There was noticeable wear after the first two tanks so to be fair I should get another new set and try them with the long/heavy setup. I dont think I got more than 6 tanks to the set (should have quit at four and saved my bell housing). It was hard to evaluate as they only lasted a day. Hope this helps.
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Default RE: Genesis alloy Clutch Engagment?

[X(][X(][X(][X(]ONE DAY!!!!!! That is a joke!!!!

Whats all this 'CNC aluminum shoes last longer' rubbish about then????

My standard, and original shoes, must have seen 2-3 gallons now.
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Thats why I sing the praises of the original ones. I guestimate about 4 gallons with mine, even then Im not in danger of the spring cutting into the bell. Hope I saved you a couple of bux. I'll see if I can get a pix of the spent shoes for you.
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Default RE: Genesis alloy Clutch Engagment?

I ordered some stock shoes today after reading on other areas of the RC Universe Forum, and most said the alloy shoes do not last.

The stock shoes were actually a little dearer where I got them from, but the extra longevity of them is worth it.


Cheers Domanonamous .
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Default RE: Genesis alloy Clutch Engagment?

Double posted.
Old 02-10-2007, 12:28 AM
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Default RE: Genesis alloy Clutch Engagment?

you either want this....
http://www.headrushhobbies.com/estor.../Nem%20Upgrade
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http://www.headrushhobbies.com/estor.../Nem%20Upgrade
that will allow the shoes to engage like right away asoon as you touch that throttle
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Default RE: Genesis alloy Clutch Engagment?

I am currently using the new era shoes. They are hard on the clutch bell, but they grab great. Good for bashing, made the truck wheelie twice as well.

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