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ppacy 11-08-2005 06:21 AM

12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
I think from time to time the question pops up in the forum if there is a way to install T-maxx wheels on our funfactors.

Replacing our 12mm hex with 14mm hex from T-maxx is not possible as the pin we use has a diameter of 2mm compared to 2.5mm from T-maxx.

If anyone is interested, and ofcourse if DrHonda is willing, how about 14mm hex wheel adapters with 4mm centre hole diameter and 2mm thick 10mm long pins.

just what the doctor ordered for our funfactors.

tavdebo 11-08-2005 08:11 AM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
there was a website in america i think it was renegade rc i maybe wrong on the name but they were selling 14 mm hexs for the funfactor.i remember this coming up a while ago i am not to sure if this site was closing down though

Dr Honda 11-08-2005 08:16 AM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
Hi,

Sure... I'm game, if there are a few more people who want them. And, like before, I'll need some stock parts to verify my parts with. I have T-maxx parts, so I wouldn’t need that.

Actually... if there is some one who has a old, first gen Magnum (fun Factor) they just want to sale to me... Shoot me a PM. I don't want to buy a new one because I know I won't really run it... but a complete, beater truck would be good for testing parts on.

If at least 3 people want these (a set of 4)… I’ll look into it, and come up with some kind of price.

If you guys want this... let me know.

cenracer1 11-08-2005 08:19 AM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
very interested and I will even send samples if needed.... I was going to order the duratrax conversion for their truck to convert to t-maxx wheels but its getting too involved and a bit rigged... need to cut the cvd's in front or cut rear dogbones on front and rear. as well as modify alot of other stuff... all told around $100+ and thats for cheap tires...
Dr Honda, this is what we really need... Cannot get pin tires for 2.2 rims in larger size.. only 1/10th stadium truck and they look silly on the monster.... Let me know... I can send them out asap.....

alvinl 11-08-2005 10:15 AM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
I'm in for 2 sets. There was a roller funfactor chassis just went for like $50 on ebay. I will keep an eye out if you want.

craigb 11-08-2005 11:00 AM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
Im in for a set or two if the price is right :D

poor judgement 11-08-2005 01:38 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
DrHonda saves the day again! :)

I have a set here, I realise they are a simple part but I could draw them up if it would help keep costs down for the rest of the people on here?

Watch it with the Tmaxx wheels tho guys, they put a lot more stress on the shafts - best to get the lightest lowest profile tyres you can in my experience:eek:. Dont forget that you will need a 0.25" offset wheel (like the Imex Romulins) to give them a chance of missing the bodywork when steering at full lock. Standard Tmaxx wheels wont allow full steering.

Renegade RC are still going, and it was them that had the 14mm hexes. They have been taken on by someone else tho, but he is just as helpful as the previous owner.

cenracer1 11-08-2005 04:08 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
thats exactly what I want them for.... I need the, for the track I run at.. I have little need for the monster truck tires that they come with.. I also want to put on a set of street tires to run on asphalt....put me down for a set!!!!

mulletman 11-08-2005 05:12 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
will the the shock towers and adapters be avible for purchase off your website DR. Honda?

Dr Honda 11-08-2005 09:04 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
Mulletman… Yes… The parts will be available on the web site, once it’s built. But, any of my stuff is available if you PM me. (right now it’s only the towers)

OK… well… it seems that enough people want them to start looking into what it will take to make them. So… let’s start with the basics. Can some one send me a few pictures of the stock part (a couple different views) and of the part on the axle. (to see how it fits)

Some one in NJ has offered to send one to me… I will PM you later.

Poor Judgment…

Since this part won’t transform from a 2D drawing very well… let’s hold off for now. (unless you just really want to;))

rolland 11-08-2005 09:06 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
I have a 2 of the Renegade adapters that I am not using and have no use for. I am not sure what happened to the other 2, I haven't seen them since I moved.
If somebody wants them all they have to do is pay for the postage.

alvinl, that ATX roller went for 29.87. I can't believe I was out did by 2 cents.


rolland

Dr Honda 11-08-2005 09:14 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
PM'ing you Rolland

rolland 11-08-2005 09:41 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
I am sending the hexes to Dr Honda.

Having some made with 17mm hexes will make fitting Imex Romulins easier to the FF's.
The Imex Romulins have the correct backspacing to work with the FF's and is what most people use when they switch to Maxx wheels and it will let people run buggy wheels also.

Dr Honda, those hexes also work on Traxxas Stampedes and Rustlers. Or they do on my electric Stampede anyhow.


rolland

rolland 11-08-2005 09:42 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 

Wrong thread


rolland

alvinl 11-08-2005 09:45 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 

ORIGINAL: rolland

I have a 2 of the Renegade adapters that I am not using and have no use for. I am not sure what happened to the other 2, I haven't seen them since I moved.
If somebody wants them all they have to do is pay for the postage.

alvinl, that ATX roller went for 29.87. I can't believe I was out did by 2 cents.


rolland
I bet you were outbid in the last couple minutes. I almost bid on that. I have been thinking about getting a cheap rolling chassis to start a project car. This stuff is addictive.

rolland 11-08-2005 09:50 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
It was the last 12 seconds.



rolland

ppacy 11-09-2005 01:26 AM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
You can count me in for 6-8 pieces DrHonda.
Correct me if i'm wrong everyone but we can also fit savage rims as well right?

poor judgement 11-09-2005 01:31 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 

Since this part won’t transform from a 2D drawing very well… let’s hold off for now. (unless you just really want to )
lol, no, im not desperate to draw them, just willing to help if need be.

ppacy - just watch the offset of whatever wheels u go for or ur steering just wont happen! savage wheels n tyres would be pretty cool/insane tho, but again, watch those poor driveshafts too.

azzman 11-09-2005 02:55 PM

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PJ,
You inspired me to weigh my standard MT2 wheels (with only a little mud) and my Savage wheels (wider offset than standard with dirt bonz tyres) and you will all be pleased to know that the Savage setup came in 200grams (nearly 1/2lb) lighter overall (4 wheels and tyres) so thats 50 grams an axle! Sweet!!
Tho the axles will probably still be under the same if not more strain because of the offset needed.

Some pics...

alvinl 11-09-2005 03:28 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
I like the look of those Dirt Bonz on the MT2 and they will definitely grip better. My MT2 slides all over the place with the stock tires.

craigb 11-09-2005 03:34 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
haha azzman your mt looks mean with them wheels [sm=bananahead.gif]

cenracer1 11-09-2005 04:49 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
alvinl... slides all over the place is an understatement.... Running thru the grass or rocks the stock tires are OK but in the dirt or especially the track.. gotta have the pins.... Can't wait:D

mulletman 11-09-2005 07:08 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
well i dont have any money right now Dr. sorry:(

poor judgement 11-09-2005 07:42 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
azzman - looking nice mate, suppose im gonna have to get a fancy paint job now... ffs...

re the wheel weights - really? wow, thats a bit of a surprise to say the least, those cen wheels n tyres, look so small next to the savages ones.

makes me glad a certain person scewed my order up for the cen mt wheels :)

craigb 11-09-2005 07:48 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
is that a RC10GT shell?

Dr Honda 11-11-2005 08:48 AM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
Hi Guys,

I didn’t want you to think I forgot about you. I’m just waiting on the parts to start from.

Also… if someone can e-mail a few pics of the part on the axel… I would appreciate it.

azzman 11-11-2005 04:49 PM

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Heres some pics of the 12mm hex on the axle Dr H. More next post. If you want me to email them PM me you email address.

azzman 11-11-2005 04:55 PM

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More pics for the Dr.

azzman 11-11-2005 05:02 PM

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And also I couldnt wait to try those Sav wheels, so I made a set makeshift 14mm hexes to test them out.
They are made from epoxy. Should last enough to give me taste. Now just have to fix the car up (mental note...dont let young nephews drive car near solid objects again) and give them a try. (Bent centre shaft, stripped spurs!!)

cenracer1 11-11-2005 08:25 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
azzman... I'm with you...spent yesterday at the hobby shop looking at rpm widemax offset wheel... found a nice purple or blue set... also, looked at the tires.. will need a set of mini-pins and a set of street tires... can't wait to run the OS 18cvrx at the track against the so-called real trucks... :D:D

Dr Honda 11-11-2005 09:31 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
Azzman…

Thanks for the pictures. I was worried that the axle had a taper. It’s not that big of a deal if it did… but it would have taken longer to machine. A straight hole cuts faster. (pocket milling to get a good size) Oh… very nice with the epoxy mock-up. Actualy, if your axle nut doesn’t come loose… it will probably last.

Cenracer1…

I use a set of the wide maxx wheels on my 1/6th scale stretched T-maxx. It makes it handle great.

cenracer1 11-11-2005 11:02 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
my friend uses them on his maxx and it makes a huge difference in his handling... the cens a-arms aren't long like the t-maxx but even an inch or so wider wheels will make the truck much more stable.. I don't have a problem in the dirt because I can slide.. but on pavement... flips over at moderate to fast speeds... There is a reason I don't ever run the custom body on the truck yet... I'm just waiting for the finished product and the price so I can pick up the wheels and tires...

azzman 11-13-2005 03:22 AM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
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OK guys, ran the MT2 today with the Savage wheels/tyres, I may have to lower the gearing, its insanely fast!!! But man I love the grip it has now. :D
I wouldnt bother lowering the gearing but it now lacks that real punch off the line.....Although I really think the overall diametre of the Dirt Bonz is a little big for the car, but I like the idea of that size rim though, is there some other tyre that will fit but is a little smaller overall (sort of like in the pic below)?

Got a little bit of video footage, so will get on and post that tomorrow night if I get time.

Also rebuilt the front of the car (before I ran it with the big uns on) and at the same time installed the new shock tower, its magic, thanks Dr H. Will do the back end when my new turnbuckles arrive.
Oh and while rebuilding the front, I put in non modded diff cups to see how long they would last....hehe...abot 3 mins each!!
Also snapped a rear dogbone and broke a front lower arm (at the hinge pin).
Needless to say I put the modded diff cups back in!! Rollands (expensive) mod is looking more and more appealing...:eek:

EDIT those tyres come pre glued to rims with a 17"hex, not sure of the rim size though. Go here and scroll down for a look: http://www.hpiracing.com/index2.htm

poor judgement 11-13-2005 12:35 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
low profile tyres - yea, my thoughts exactly... ebay item number 6000815378 looks good to me.

my (cheap) tmaxx driveshaft conversion is still holding up by the way... but it does mean sacrificing 4 cen cvds... not a prob if u have some salvageable knackered ones tho...

hey azzman - i see u got the optional hinge pins - any real difference in smoothness over the stock ones?

craigb 11-13-2005 03:18 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
WOW poor judgement them tyres are low profile!
I prefer low profile tyres... they always seem to run more true then MT tyres, which means less vibrations, longer part life, much easier to control at high speed :D
they are also allot lighter

Should be great on my cen:D

alvinl 11-13-2005 04:26 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
I wonder how my MT2 would look with a set of Imex Jumbo Kong tires:D

alvinl 11-13-2005 04:36 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
Now for a serious post. Since I don't know squat about choosing the proper tires and wheels, I am probably going to go with something you guys say works. I was looking at Romulin rims on Ebay. There is a full set for $17. The rest are all $23 and up. It's Ebay item number 6009977166. Is this the right wheel? It looked like the only difference was in the finish but I am not sure. These are a 'Brushed Chrome".

rolland 11-13-2005 05:26 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
Those are the same ones that I have. You will also have to use a large washer under the wheel nut to hold the wheel on a regular axle. The size of the washer is listed on the back of the package.



rolland

alvinl 11-13-2005 06:05 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
Sweet, Thanks. Looks like those babies are mine!

poor judgement 11-13-2005 06:25 PM

RE: 12mm to 14mm hex wheel adapter DrHonda?
 
just make sure they come with the 14-17mm plastic adapter. most sets seem to come with them, but some dont!!

the washer i used was listed as 5x25mm, got em from a hardware store, if that helps.

craig - forgot... aye, those tyres look the part alright... im sure theres a law of suspension dynamics that states that the vehicle itself should weigh more than its wheels... :) im tempted by those, just the postage cost... customs etc.


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