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Old 12-26-2010, 11:05 AM
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Default Calypso and Supertigre G60 bluehead X series RE

I was thinking of buying a Calypso on ebay, I have a new in box supertigre g60 bluehead x series rear exhaust, with the supertigre tuned pipe that goes with that engine, also new in the box, can I use the engine and pipe on a calypso?
Old 12-26-2010, 11:16 AM
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Default RE: Calypso and Supertigre G60 bluehead X series RE

Brian,

The Calypso is designed to use a side exhaust engine, but I'm sure you could work something out.

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Old 12-26-2010, 11:29 AM
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does anybody know what would be a good plane for my engine and pipe?
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Default RE: Calypso and Supertigre G60 bluehead X series RE

or back in the day what was the main plane that people put this engine in?
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Default RE: Calypso and Supertigre G60 bluehead X series RE


Hi Brian,
One that comes to mind as far as a strait forward installation for a RE Engine would be the ARROW.

Here is a nicely done Arrow.

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Default RE: Calypso and Supertigre G60 bluehead X series RE


Finally!

"Having upload issues"

The Arrow

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Old 12-26-2010, 12:45 PM
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oh thats nice, I like to find one of them somewhere!
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Bridi XLT!

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Old 12-26-2010, 01:14 PM
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ORIGINAL: brianl1620

oh thats nice, I like to find one of them somewhere!
Plans are available for a Scratch build. What’s your preference? Available kits or Scratch building?

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available kits
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Default RE: Calypso and Supertigre G60 bluehead X series RE

the xlt won't work, because on my engine the pipe come straight back from the engine, it has the header built into the case, and with the xlt you need a header that curves up right?
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Default RE: Calypso and Supertigre G60 bluehead X series RE


Just about every install will require some degree of up.

That being said some type of fabrication will be needed.

Rossi/Nova Rossi headers would be what I’d start looking at since they also have a round exhaust port which is part of the case on the RE motors as well.

Maybe someone here has more info on configuring the install on the supertigre.

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Default RE: Calypso and Supertigre G60 bluehead X series RE

ORIGINAL: brianl1620

does anybody know what would be a good plane for my engine and pipe?


Rear exhaust engines are okay in BPA, but not in SPA, so you might as well get the best plane that you can get for the era your
flying emulates. If any era at all.

With that said, the least expensive route, as far as buying new is concerned, is to buy a Bluejay Models rendition (kit) of the Bridi XLT. That will accept your rear exhaust Bluehead ST X engine in fine style. Another model that does rear exhaust well is the Bridi Deception. Or, if you can locate an old Bootlegger fiber glass and foam kit, you'd be flying in fine style too.

The Bridi XLT is a fairly easy build and the kit isn't expensive. That was what I chose for my Rossi AXE .61 rear exhaust engine.


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ORIGINAL: brianl1620

the xlt won't work, because on my engine the pipe come straight back from the engine, it has the header built into the case, and with the xlt you need a header that curves up right?


I had a similar problem with my stock OS .61VF (it came with the header!). Mac's Mufflers came to the rescue and provided a header that joined the mounting flange at an angle without the straight run incorporated into your and my stock headers. I would inquire with Mac's Mufflers about such a header. I would also scour the auction sites for a suitable replacement. Remember, looks (appearance) doesn't matter if the metal is there to do the job. I've bought some horrible burned on castor looking headers that look nearly new now after a good antifreeze bath.


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whats antifreeze do.
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Default RE: Calypso and Supertigre G60 bluehead X series RE

Boiling engine parts in glycol removes burned oil stains like magic. It also has a bonus of being anti-corrosive. It's toxic, so don't use pots that you cook food in.
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Boiling engine parts in glycol removes burned oil stains like magic. It also has a bonus of being anti-corrosive. It's toxic, so don't use pots that you cook food in.


And NEVER boil the parts in antifreeze. If the antifreeze temp is too high, it will permanently stain/discolor the parts. Keep a crockpot with antifreeze on low and you won't have any problems with discoloration, but you will have what looks like a brand new engine/parts after a few hours of treatment.


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Default RE: Calypso and Supertigre G60 bluehead X series RE

Build a Dirty Birdy, with the engine mounted sideways and the pipe running above the wing saddle, works out perfect with a ST series X.
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Default RE: Calypso and Supertigre G60 bluehead X series RE

This one was designed around that engine/pipe ....
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Default RE: Calypso and Supertigre G60 bluehead X series RE

Brian,

several fine model alternative options have been suggested for your X60 BH. If I may say so though, If a Calypso is what you would like to build, I can't think of an easier model to build with a RE engine. Unlike some may believe the Calypso is not designed for SE engines. In fact, I'm sure that Hanno designed it with a RE engine in mind probably assuming he would use the same engine he used in his Magic in '82 - which just so happens to be the ST X60 TST - virtually identical to your engine. Hanno ended up using a slightly more modern engine, a ST S60 SE probably only for sponsorship reasons. The S60 was also a "Sport" engine rather than a competition engine like the "X" series so it fit with Hanno's shift in design and approach philosophy from the Magic to the Calypso.

I'm framing up a Calypso with the same exact engine. Installation is inverted no doubt as Hanno conceived it (it is written all over the model). You may need a short adapter length to connect the engine manifold to the pipe header proper. This allows the exhaust to be brought up a little higher (when inverted) in draft to set the pipe at the correct position with respect to the wing. Some detailed photos of your pipe and header might help to see what may be needed but it may be that a short length of silicon tubing might just do the trick.

It is also worth noting that the Calypso is a dead easy model to build. If you are interested in a kit, I have one that I might part with but you could also scratch build one (what I would do). I could help with that if needed.

David.

P.S. When RCU has fixed it's image uploading issues, I'll upload some pics showing the X60 installation.
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Default RE: Calypso and Supertigre G60 bluehead X series RE

I have to agree with David. I see no reason to not build the Calypso with a rear exhaust engine and a partially internal tuned pipe. It can't be much more difficult to do than to adapt a Bridi Deception (Kimbrough) to rear exhaust use.


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Your Arrow, very, very nice.

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Hey Crank, Happy Holidays

This is my New Arrow that I’ll be working on, just need to get the wing and stab cores all worked out.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...74&postcount=1


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Default RE: Calypso and Supertigre G60 bluehead X series RE

Calypso...fantastic airplane.

I encourage you to build the Calypso. I built my model pretty close to Hanno's world championship version with the exception of the aileron size and location. I powered mine with the Super Tigre S61, which is a very powerful engine that is simple to operate and runs stronger and stronger with each tank. The X61 is an excellent engine and will run the best after 2-3 gallons of fuel.

The flight capabilities are as good as any classic model I have flown assuming it is properly set-up. It would be possible to purchase an "S" or 1" rise header from Macs, cut off the flange and use a viton coupler to attach to the motor.

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Default RE: Calypso and Supertigre G60 bluehead X series RE

I flew a Calypso in the early 90's with a ST X.61RE. To say the least the plane was ballistic. The only issue with a RE engine is the default tank location is too high and caused me some flooding issues. If I were to do it again I would lower the tank or pump the engine and put the tank in the canopy area.

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