hutchinstuff

On the other site, members told me this is a Phoenix 7 with anhedral horizontal.

It will be my first pattern bird, but the air up/down retracts are already installed.

I would like to get some more information on it, manual/tips/tricks etc...


thanks in advance.

impalas

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Hanger 9 is producing an arf called the Pheonix 8, a direct reproduction of Don Lowe's original. If you go to their site you can copy off their manual. But, without that, they give you alot of specs on the planesuch as throws and C.G. I flew one in the 70s with kraft retracts. They were a great airframe. The photo you show definitely looks like a Pheonix. The nose wheel takes a beating off of grass fields. Hope the hanger 9 manual helps you out. Impalas

PatternPilot

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Horizon / Hanger 9 is producing the Phoenix 7 ARF...

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MMcConville

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Yes that does look like a Phoenix 7 with anhedral in the stab. Likely built from the Airborne Associates kit. Same fuselage that Done Lowe gave me that was used to start the Hangar 9 ARF Phoenix 7 (not Phoenix 8 BTW).

hutchinstuff

Mike, I assume the pushrods from the 7 ARF would work with this kit then? $12 seems better than trying to make up my own elevator pushrod setup. If there is anyway a guy could get a servo bay from Hangar 9, that would be great too! But I can always make my own with the scroll....

MMcConville

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They could be made to work. You'll need to be sure pushrod exits and the servo tray are in the same location, and also add support the the rudder pushrod guide tube. That method wasnt typically done in the day, but works well.....slop free.

Unfortunately the servo tray isnt available seperately. Its built into the fuse. Should be easy enough to cut one out.

hutchinstuff

Mike,
I'm finally going to get the Phoenix together... got all the air retract parts.
Wondering how these hinges are usually put in? The fit is great, I've just never put in these "plastic" type hinges..

Thanks!

-mike hutch

MMcConville

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Use a good CA hinge.

MTK

Mike,

Radio South hinges are the best ca type hinges available. Technically you assemble the parts, flex the control surface in one direction and drip 2 drops thin ca onto each hinge. Wait a few minutes to make sure ca has fully kicked, and then flex the surface the other way and do the same. THIN CA glue wicks and secures the surface.

BUT, If you don't wait long enough and you just happened to flood the hinge, you may find that the surfaces will stick together, so beware and allow enough time

In my installations, prior to assembly I often drill a 1/16" hole in each slit's center on wood surfaces. That ensures adequate wicking and takes any guesswork out of the gluing assembly. It also tends to pull the CA into the wood so my surfaces don't stick together

eddieC

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Great Tip!

Oh, and guys, it's 'HangAr'.

crankpin

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Not trying to hijack this thread. I use dubros and robarts, usually one or the other. The large dubros, you can modify, shorten, etc., then pin with round toothpicks. I have started to use a very small SS counter-sunk screw, into the hinge, from the bottom. Everyone has their own method.
Crank

hutchinstuff

Crank - that looks sharp! Ended up going with h9 ca hinges, and have the tail glued in. Gotta sand the wing down and install the ail hinges, then it's off to building a custom servo tray. Found a 61 fx for this one, gonna throw a macs muffler on it for simplicity. Then off to the paint booth! Still trying to visualize a classy scheme...

crankpin

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Here is a couple pix showing servo board on last P-6. I epoxy or use glass resin, 3/8"X3/8" rails L&R, use 440 BN's to accept 440 allens from top of SB.
Crank