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Old 02-08-2014, 04:07 PM
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185,000 hits. Wow!
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Originally Posted by dhal22 View Post
185,000 hits. Wow!
Yes, and it is too bad that all my old RCU threads have the text screwed up with goofy characters inserted. It happened during the RCU upgrade and they apparently have no way to fix it. The goofy characters makes the information very hard to understand.

But, I found the solution for publishing my builds on a stable, reliable and easy to use system. It is on another site and Im sticking with it.

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Old 02-09-2014, 09:54 AM
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Back in the day, this was THE place. I agree though, the 'other' site is great.
Old 02-10-2014, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dhal22 View Post
Back in the day, this was THE place. I agree though, the 'other' site is great.
Agree .....................
Old 02-11-2014, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by crankpin View Post
Agree .....................

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Old 05-27-2014, 04:29 AM
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I know this is an old post but I have a partally built blue angel kit ! someone contacted me several years ago that was from Canada and was interested in it but I lost all his info when my comp died ! just found u guys again and thought I'd try and make contac again ! i'll dig it back out if someone is interested ?
thanks David
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How much are you thinking? Any pictures of the kit and whats complete?

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Old 05-27-2014, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by daveashsr View Post
I know this is an old post but I have a partally built blue angel kit ! someone contacted me several years ago that was from Canada and was interested in it but I lost all his info when my comp died ! just found u guys again and thought I'd try and make contac again ! i'll dig it back out if someone is interested ?
thanks David

Send me photos. I have an employee in Panama City on vacation right now. Maybe we could avoid shipping.

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Old 05-27-2014, 06:39 PM
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I sent u a pm I think !! dhal22
Old 04-30-2015, 01:00 PM
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I have seen now about three to four Blue Angel kits (40 size and 60 size) for sale on ebay since I began searching for them. Every one of them included the oval fuel tank in the kit itself (as well as a prop spinner). Is this standard? That the fuel tank be included? I only ask because when I purchased my kit in 1979 I distinctly remember that the fuel tank was not included and I had to source my own. Just a curiosity question really.

One quick note about this forum... you used to be able to see how many views a thread had received. Is this no longer available? Ooops. Just found the answer to my own question. The total views are on the index page. 198,000+!

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Old 04-30-2015, 01:18 PM
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I have seen now about three to four Blue Angel kits (40 size and 60 size) for sale on ebay since I began searching for them. Every one of them included the oval fuel tank in the kit itself (as well as a prop spinner). Is this standard? That the fuel tank be included? I only ask because when I purchased my kit in 1979 I distinctly remember that the fuel tank was not included and I had to source my own. Just a curiosity question really.

One quick note about this forum... you used to be able to see how many views a thread had received. Is this no longer available? Ooops. Just found the answer to my own question. The total views are on the index page. 198,000+!
Most MK 40 and 60 size kits came with MK brand fuel tanks and plastic spinners. The BA is a very early design and one of the first pattern designs to emerge from the MK company. It is possible that the early/first kits dating back to 1979 didn't include the tank if MK wasn't producing them yet.

Once the company was well established, the model was actually designed around a specific MK fuel tank which was typically oval in shape and shallow with an offset neck. The formers were typically designed to have the neck snug up against or pass through the former for support. Vibration might have caused some issues with fuel foaming but then, MK often used soft mounts on their 60 size birds. I also suspect the Japanese used an anti-foaming agent in their fuel.

Building many of the MK classics absent the proper fuel tank can prove tricky but generally a shallow tank replacement can be accomodates without too much modification to the formers. Otherwise, interior former geometry must be revised to accommodate tanks such as Sullivan RST/Round, Hayes Slim or Tettra tanks.

David

PS The MK 20 size designs also used specific MK tanks but the tanks were not included in those kits nor were the spinners. A way of getting into the lower kit price market back in the day.
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Hi David/doxilla,

Thanks very much for that informative post. I bought a Blue Angel Jr. (for 40 sized engines). Do you know when any changes happened to the kit name and box graphics design? I ask because I have seen the BA 40 referred to as a BA 40 SR as well as a BA Jr. Which came first???

As a note, I saw a Blue Angel (for 60 engines) for sale on ebay last month (new in box). It was being sold out of Prince Edward Island (if I remember correctly). I tried getting it but it went beyond my budget ($350+). I wonder of anyone here either saw it or bought it...

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Hi David/doxilla,

Thanks very much for that informative post. I bought a Blue Angel Jr. (for 40 sized engines). Do you know when any changes happened to the kit name and box graphics design? I ask because I have seen the BA 40 referred to as a BA 40 SR as well as a BA Jr. Which came first???

As a note, I saw a Blue Angel (for 60 engines) for sale on ebay last month (new in box). It was being sold out of Prince Edward Island (if I remember correctly). I tried getting it but it went beyond my budget ($350+). I wonder of anyone here either saw it or bought it...
I would have paid $600 - $1000 for that BA kit but could not get my Ebay id to log in on Ebay Canada, so started a new id. I was by far and away the highest bidder but the seller choose to reject my bids based upon my 0 rating. He lost $100's in that decision. I think my max bid was at $800 but was willing to increase it. I only hope the seller sees this info someday. he did not respond to my pm's.
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That's interesting that you say that about trying to bid and being rejected. I contacted the seller about where it was sent to (only asking for the general area) and he refused to say. Bit of an a hole that guy was.
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That's interesting that you say that about trying to bid and being rejected. I contacted the seller about where it was sent to (only asking for the general area) and he refused to say. Bit of an a hole that guy was.
His loss. Literally.
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Originally Posted by judgedredd View Post
Hi David/doxilia,

Thanks very much for that informative post. I bought a Blue Angel Jr. (for 40 sized engines). Do you know when any changes happened to the kit name and box graphics design? I ask because I have seen the BA 40 referred to as a BA 40 SR as well as a BA Jr. Which came first???

As a note, I saw a Blue Angel (for 60 engines) for sale on ebay last month (new in box). It was being sold out of Prince Edward Island (if I remember correctly). I tried getting it but it went beyond my budget ($350+). I wonder of anyone here either saw it or bought it...
Judge,

glad to be able to shed some light. The BA40 JR came before the BA40 SR. The two kits/models roughly followed the same design change and evolution of the BA60 which first had a jet like stack exhaust and rudder entirely above the stab. The BA60 "Modified", as T. Yoshioka referred to it (these were his mods to MK's original BA design), was the one that won at the world's. In the case of the BA60 no name distinction was given to the model and one can see BA60 plans in three different versions.

For a BA40 with jet like looks, build the JR. For a BA40 with pattern performance, build the SR.

David
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Nice to see this thread is still going after nine plus years!

I still have the Blue Angel, but it has developed some clear coat crazing that is disappointing. Should have skipped the clear I guess.

I don't use RCU anymore because I find it too difficult publish with the relentless site stability problems, but I do have a number build threads on RCG Classic Pattern site.

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Just trying to get the hit count here to 200,000.
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While I'm here, I got back into rc after 10 - 12 year hiatus about 2005 or 2006 and quickly found RCU . In soaking up everything i could trying to learn more about rc I found Mike's Blue Angel thread here. I knew nothing about classic pattern flying and was enthralled by Mike's build thread. I was immediately hooked. Nine years later I still am fascinated with classic pattern rc (and built my own BA) all due to Mike's build thread and the beautiful lines of a Blue Angel.
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While I'm here, I got back into rc after 10 - 12 year hiatus about 2005 or 2006 and quickly found RCU . In soaking up everything i could trying to learn more about rc I found Mike's Blue Angel thread here. I knew nothing about classic pattern flying and was enthralled by Mike's build thread. I was immediately hooked. Nine years later I still am fascinated with classic pattern rc (and built my own BA) all due to Mike's build thread and the beautiful lines of a Blue Angel.
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Where did you get your BA from and which size is it.? I am assuming it is the 60 size model. Have you posted a picture of it in this thread?
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Same as Mike, I ordered my 'short kit' from Dan Hines and hand cut the rest from plans. I have a build thread here as well, a bit more dormant than Mike's, let me look for it.
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'Bumped' my BA build thread.
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Same as Mike, I ordered my 'short kit' from Dan Hines and hand cut the rest from plans. I have a build thread here as well, a bit more dormant than Mike's, let me look for it.
It was a pretty short kit David! A foam wing and stab core and a canopy plus some plans!


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Plus following your detailed work.

I look at mine and am still amazed at what can come out of a pile of balsa.

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