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Old 11-03-2020, 09:00 AM
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The Blue Angel on Outerzone https://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=5888
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Originally Posted by Flori5855
Hi Mike,
I started my blue angel project 4 weeks ago with a kit from HangarOne / NZ. The KATO plan is identical to your blue angel project from 2006 (RCU-Forum). The CG of 180mm given in my and your plan irritates me. The results of various pc programs for the CG calculation also give me very strange results for that wing profile. I also checked the CG with plans from various manufacturers. The model data were always identical (span 1650 mm, weight 3.5 kg, engine 10 cc, etc.). In all these other plans is the CG about 135mm. :-((
I have no explanation for that. I would be very grateful if you could give me the CG of your Blue Angel.

Mayby one of the forum participants can me help either.

Many Thanks.
Greetings from Germany.
tom
Here is what I posted when I was working with the CG and to check the plan CG I calculated the MAC myself.

"I'm just a tad nose heavy on the recommended CG point and I'm not going to change it with tail ballast. From my calculations on the swept wing the recommended CG point is at 33% of the Mean Aerodynamic Cord (MAC). My CG will be at about 30% of the MAC and I'm OK with that rather than adding ballast. I may change my mind after I fly it for awhile".
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Amazing! 300,000 views.
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I just saw that. 300,000..........................
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Originally Posted by impactiq
Looking forward to this one 8178! PM or e-mail me your address and I will send you a neat artical about the Blue Angel.
Hello Sir,

I would appreciate if I could have a copy of the Blue Angle article. If not, could you kindly tell me in which magazine and issue.

Thank you!
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Wow, that is quite some thread and a stunning looking model.

i wanted to build something with swept back wings, retracts and fast and with classic pattern gaining popularity here this really appealed to me

So I've also just started the laser cut kit from Hangar One and I'm pretty certain I'll be referring back here quite a bit, especially while building the fuselage.

regards, Graham from New Zealand
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Graham,
I've been working on my HangarOne-Blue Angel for a few month, a great model!So far I have made some modifications to the fuselage and wing (engine installation, retractable landing gear, etc.).I can post a few photos / comments here.First of all, I can tell you that Mike's building instruction in this thread is very helpful, he has done a great deal of preparatory work here.

Greetings from Germany, Tom
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So after about 33 years of inactivity in the sport due to life , work and another hobby, Covid and retirement has brought me back and I am working on a MK Blue Angel kit that I started in the 1980's ( had just started fuselage build) I have a NIB Super Tigre G60 ABC with Ring that I had planned to use with it but do not have a tuned pipe for it only a strap on muffler Any recommendations? I do not have any retracts and have attempted to find the recommended MK ones to no avail I am thinking about using Rcskylite(air) ones any recommendations? Mike (8178) I have read the whole Blue Angel build tread you posted and love all the tips and info. I have forgotten how much I enjoy building these(balsa) models, I am a fair builder and a not so decent flyer !! I do not enjoy the re-kitting aspect of the sport though. LOL All of my radios ( my newest radio is a Futaba PCM and Airtronics Quantum stuff and oldest is an old Kraft) are well out of date any recommendations for a new system? I was much more of a builder than a flyer due to time and working but hope to get much better now when I can. I have several birds still ready for new radio Big H-ray, Falcon 56, Skylane, Big Stick
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Originally Posted by Flori5855
Graham,
I've been working on my HangarOne-Blue Angel for a few month, a great model!So far I have made some modifications to the fuselage and wing (engine installation, retractable landing gear, etc.).I can post a few photos / comments here.First of all, I can tell you that Mike's building instruction in this thread is very helpful, he has done a great deal of preparatory work here.

Greetings from Germany, Tom
Sounds great Tom, how about we start a new thread specifically aimed at the Hangar One short kit?
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Greg, lots of help available. Graham is correct, let's get this on another thread and get going. Wow, that is a low AMA number btw.
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Yes the number was my Uncles and he started me in the hobby and when he passed he wanted me to use his number and AMA obliged his wish He was one of the very early members.
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Mike, I heard photos of old builds were disappearing here. Yours appear to be still intact.
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Originally Posted by dhal22
Mike, I heard photos of old builds were disappearing here. Yours appear to be still intact.
Yes, they seem stuck.
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Hello 8178,

As I don't know your name, I was hoping you might answer a question regarding your build of the Blue Angel in this thread. I was wondering what material you used for the trailing edge center blocks. Did you use balsa or harder wood?
Thank you,
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Originally Posted by domecqsmith
Hello 8178,

As I don't know your name, I was hoping you might answer a question regarding your build of the Blue Angel in this thread. I was wondering what material you used for the trailing edge center blocks. Did you use balsa or harder wood?
Thank you,
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The ailerons were made from medium balsa and extended the full length of the wing trailing edge during the shaping process. After the shaping process was complete, I cut the aileron at the wing root to form the center training edge. After the wing right and left sides were joined I fiberglass the center section. The center section tailing edge is quite strong.
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Newest radio for the Blue Angel. FrSky X20 Pro..


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Hi Guys,
Its been a few years since posting here. I wanted to upload the PDF of this Blue Angel build (which can be obtained via a download link I posted a few years ago) I created many years ago in case my site goes under (for whatever reason) and I found that when I went to the advanced tab and tried to upload the PDF the upload button didn't work. The file itself comes to around 54MB in size which may be too big to upload.

Can someone tell me why the upload button is disabled and, if that is fixed, what the maximum upload size is?

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Love this whole thread... 408,659 views to date. Who would have thought, when just a short while ago Mike et.al. where thinking it may just make 300,000 ... Bravo. This thread is to me the basis of how to construct not just the B.A., but any classic F3A airplane. I love your attention to detail and how you used modern tech trends but stayed true to the Classic Pattern core. Can not commend you more highly Mike.

Mike has inspired me to finish my MK kit ( Wild 7 ), though I may make it e-powered to keep with the times. It will be a while, as I must up my flying skills first.
The Blue Angel has had a sweet spot in my heart since I was a young teen... Yoshioka's version after winning the Worlds was my poster child model, so I soon after purchased my first model aircraft engine (the COX .049 's don't count here), the MRC distributed YS60 which powered his airplane.

May this thread reach 500K....
Edit Note- in the time it took me to write this, the post count has reached 408,793 , an increase of 134!!!

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Originally Posted by CoolCanuck
Love this whole thread... 408,659 views to date. Who would have thought, when just a short while ago Mike et.al. where thinking it may just make 300,000 ... Bravo. This thread is to me the basis of how to construct not just the B.A., but any classic F3A airplane. I love your attention to detail and how you used modern tech trends but stayed true to the Classic Pattern core. Can not commend you more highly Mike.

Mike has inspired me to finish my MK kit ( Wild 7 ), though I may make it e-powered to keep with the times. It will be a while, as I must up my flying skills first.
The Blue Angel has had a sweet spot in my heart since I was a young teen... Yoshioka's version after winning the Worlds was my poster child model, so I soon after purchased my first model aircraft engine (the COX .049 's don't count here), the MRC distributed YS60 which powered his airplane.

May this thread reach 500K....
Edit Note- in the time it took me to write this, the post count has reached 408,793 , an increase of 134!!!
Thanks for the kind comments. Nice to know the effort put into the thread continues to be helpful after all these years.

Mike

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