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ie1jch 03-31-2011 05:11 AM

Look for classic pattern builder
 
I have a original MK Blue Angel .60 kit and I am looking for someone to build it for me. I live in greater Chicago area. Can anybody help? Thanks

doxilia 03-31-2011 07:01 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
The time required to build and finish one of those beauties is nothing to sneeze at. You may find someone here willing to do it but I'd imagine your best bet might be to get a professional builder to do it.

I'd also venture that the build cost would be nothing to sneeze at... :)

David.

ie1jch 03-31-2011 07:44 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
Thanks david.
Where do I find professional builder? Any advise?
Thanks

Jin

308jockey 03-31-2011 08:28 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
Jin give me a call at 334-444-4097. May be able to help you out. I'm building a lot of airplanes from that period. Three Kaos' and two Tiger Tail IV's on the table now, all from plans.

Rick H.

Steve25 03-31-2011 10:03 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
Maybe a good idea to copy all parts at once, so , this kit is saved as well.

dave pattern 03-31-2011 03:43 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
what stage of building are you looking for?
framed, covered,painted,ready to fly etc.
I am on the left coast so it might be better to find somone closer to you but i might be interested in doing it for you if the return shipping could be worked out
Dave jr.

Steve25 03-31-2011 04:41 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
I have bought my Curare .40 build as an ARF,
The problem was, he did that work so cheap, and so good and nice, that I could never do it that well...
Totally build, including kit, new, about 200US$.....

flywilly 03-31-2011 04:48 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
There are a lot of good builders in the Chicago area. Contact Rusty Dose (who seems to be banned from these pages presently) as he knows most or all of the pattern builders/fliers in the Chicago area. Good Luck - very nice airplane and a great kit - please have the builder make templates or at least trace all the parts during the build.

ie1jch 03-31-2011 06:02 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
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Here are some pics of the kit that I have. I will love if someone wants to copy all parts and the plan to preserve the legacy. However I do want this one build for myself to fly. Right now I just do not know anybody that I can trust. I receive some of your advises and I really appreciate it.

EscapeFlyer 03-31-2011 06:34 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 

ORIGINAL: ie1jch

Here are some pics of the kit that I have. I will love if someone wants to copy all parts and the plan to preserve the legacy. However I do want this one build for myself to fly. Right now I just do not know anybody that I can trust. I receive some of your advises and I really appreciate it.

("A Loud THUNK is heard as my jaw just hit the floor")

ie1jch-

Be careful posting those pics. It could start an epidemic! Good call looking for a pro builder!

Someone has to get hold of this and make templates and plans accessable...

Brian

ie1jch 03-31-2011 07:12 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
Indeed Brian. I will make sure the plan copied and I will let whoever build this plane to document each part. I flew one of this plan when I was little and remember felt like fallen in love and all of a sudden she is nowhere to be found.... I hope someone can make many copy of it and bring her back to life so more people can enjoy it.

Jin

bem 04-01-2011 07:27 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
MK Blue Angel 60 kit is extremely rare these days. It would be kínd of sad to build the actual kit when it is so rare. But I hope You will get it built (or built from copies if the balsa/ply in the kit) by some good builder. It is one of my favorite classic pattern planes. I have Carolina Custom Aircraftshort kit of Blue Angel 60 and that isfine also.

/Bo

Aurora_60 04-01-2011 10:20 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 


ORIGINAL: bem

MK Blue Angel 60 kit is extremely rare these days. It would be kÃ*nd of sad to build the actual kit when it is so rare. But I hope You will get it built (or built from copies if the balsa/ply in the kit) by some good builder. It is one of my favorite classic pattern planes. I have Carolina Custom Aircraft short kit of Blue Angel 60 and that is fine also.

/Bo
Good Call on the short kit bem.

These kits are selling solidly at about $300, just they way you presently have it and in these hard financial times. They can go, without surprize to the members here, up to $500 and over. Reason isn't only because they are not around, but because they are awsome kits to BUILD. The design is great, but the enginering in the kit just makes it so much fun to build. If all you're looking for is a Built flying Blue Angel, the short kit Is logical. If you're looking for a classic pattern plane to fly and not neccesarily a Blue Angel, there are some out there available RTF from individuals. Just gotta keep looking in the classifieds here.
Singapore Hobbies in China, who has the only listing of old MK kits (even though there not available) had a built 60 size MK plane (I'm pretty sure it was a BA but not certain) now that was listed over $2000.
Good deals are around. My MK Aurora in my avatar came built w/ a Hanno, matching pipe, installed radio gear and the transmitter for $450. I just had to look 10 years til I ran across one! (Thanks again for the lead Chuck!) The first day @ the field someone offered me $1500 for it. turned them down.


DM

Aurora_60 04-01-2011 10:24 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
I just thought to myself, Spring is here and the flying season is just begining for most people. If you're not in a rush, maybe looking for a builder toward the end of October would attract more attention.


DM

dhal22 04-01-2011 01:23 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 


ORIGINAL: Aurora_60



ORIGINAL: bem

MK Blue Angel 60 kit is extremely rare these days. It would be kÃ*nd of sad to build the actual kit when it is so rare. But I hope You will get it built (or built from copies if the balsa/ply in the kit) by some good builder. It is one of my favorite classic pattern planes. I have Carolina Custom Aircraft short kit of Blue Angel 60 and that is fine also.

/Bo
Good Call on the short kit bem.

These kits are selling solidly at about $300, just they way you presently have it and in these hard financial times. They can go, without surprize to the members here, up to $500 and over. Reason isn't only because they are not around, but because they are awsome kits to BUILD. The design is great, but the enginering in the kit just makes it so much fun to build. If all you're looking for is a Built flying Blue Angel, the short kit Is logical. If you're looking for a classic pattern plane to fly and not neccesarily a Blue Angel, there are some out there available RTF from individuals. Just gotta keep looking in the classifieds here.
Singapore Hobbies in China, who has the only listing of old MK kits (even though there not available) had a built 60 size MK plane (I'm pretty sure it was a BA but not certain) now that was listed over $2000.
Good deals are around. My MK Aurora in my avatar came built w/ a Hanno, matching pipe, installed radio gear and the transmitter for $450. I just had to look 10 years til I ran across one! (Thanks again for the lead Chuck!) The first day @ the field someone offered me $1500 for it. turned them down.


DM
David, didn't you get that Aurora from Craigslist? Like San Antonio or somewhere? I got my RTF Speeda for just slightly more than what you paid.

Aurora_60 04-01-2011 03:38 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
[X(] Wow, you have memory of an elephant David !
Yes I did. It came from Texas but I cant remember where, my memory is the mouse. I still cant get over that plane. Its like 8178 built it. The shipping killed me. It was more than the plane, but I did end up with a plane of a life time. Also found an MK Aurora kit for $450, funny huh. Still have the kit, just waiting to move to the states!



DM

custombuiltrc 04-04-2011 06:12 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
PM Sent

dhal22 04-05-2011 04:22 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
I would think you could acquire the short kit and then sell the real kit for enough money to pay a builder to build the short kit.

ie1jch 04-05-2011 06:16 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
David,
That is a good idea. But I do not know how to make it work. All I know is to professionally build (painted) cost around a couple thousand dollars and I don't know who will make this deal with me.
I receive a lot of advises from this forum and I appreciate every one of it. Thanks you all.
Jin

Aurora_60 04-05-2011 09:34 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
Honestly, If I were seriously looking to get THE best build for an MK kit -or any balsa kit- and I had the funds to do so, I would keep pestering Mike (8178) to do it. He is the only one that really comes to mind for knowing that whatever the amount paid, I'd feel like I got more than my moneys worth. I dont think anyone hear would argue about that.
Check his build.... http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3973867/tm.htm
the guys a machine



I started looking over that build again, for ten minutes... an hour went by!
I think that thread got a few of us to step up our game a few notches.

DM

dhal22 04-05-2011 03:15 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
a couple of thousand should generate some interest. But there would be 100's of hours to produce a fully painted version though, so it would work out to $4-5 an hour even at that amount.

doxilia 04-05-2011 06:40 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
David & Jin,

that is in fact quite accurate. I actually agreed to build and finish a pattern design for someone and can attest to the fact that the "hourly" rate to do a build pales in comparison to what one might earn by doing regular work. Even at a couple of grand (I didn't charge that much), as David mentions, the time involved to "personally" build and finish a model of the caliber of a BA is in the 100-150 hour time frame. Needless to say, one does it as a labour of love and perhaps because of the opportunity to tackle and build a kit like the BA.

There are efficiencies to be gained but that requires much time, experience and facilites. These factors and attributes are what allow pro builders like Dave Guerin to pull off a model like this in a few weeks. I believe a regular glass/foam build for Dave might take 6-10 weeks working on it more or less full time. I have no idea what he charges.

David.

BERUSTY 04-06-2011 04:19 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
The challenge is finding a builder that likes to build in wood and is also a good finisher and loading the goodies. You may find a builder, a seperate finsher and a yet different loader of electronics/mechanicals.

It is not unusual for a high quality builder charge $1750 to complete an ARC, and $2250+ for a fiberglass/foam kit. Some charge by the hour and provide a detailed time and materials estimate and delivery time frame.

Rusty Dose
team Futaba

stuntflyr 04-06-2011 06:51 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
The mods must really have it in for Rusty Dose. Full on dis, huh? This is the type of crap that makes guys move on to other internet forum groups. Pretty small.
Chris...

doxilia 04-06-2011 12:36 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
Chris,

did Rusty post just before you did and after my post? I got an informative PM from him but it appears that he is still unable to post regularly on the forum. He seems active over on RCG. Now that they have a classic pattern forum, we'll probably end up splitting time on both sites. I kinda liked it when it was simple, one place to go to, but change is inevitable.

David.

stuntflyr 04-06-2011 02:26 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
Hi David,
When he posts it'll show on the "last post" counter but his message will not show up. If you go to his profile you can see that he posts regularly, but I've seen nothing on the board.
Chris...

dhal22 04-07-2011 02:40 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 


ORIGINAL: stuntflyr

Hi David,
When he posts it'll show on the ''last post'' counter but his message will not show up. If you go to his profile you can see that he posts regularly, but I've seen nothing on the board.
Chris...


Chris,

I knew this situation was happening a few months ago but had no idea Rusty was still posting here. I assumed he had moved to the other forum completely. We correspond there regularly. can other rcu members see his posts here? might be an interesting topic.

Alan W 04-07-2011 12:42 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
No - no Rusty posts

I am in the NY area (Long Island) and am also looking for someone to build for me. Commuting into and back from Manhatten 2 hrs each way certainly cuts into the "me" time

I have an original Glass/Foam DB60 I would like to see fly with electric power

Any Retired good builders out there ?

EscapeFlyer 04-07-2011 02:29 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 

I have an original Glass/Foam DB60 I would like to see fly with electric power


BLASPHEMY!!!

;)

Brian

dhal22 04-07-2011 05:23 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 


ORIGINAL: Ilikebipes


I have an original Glass/Foam DB60 I would like to see fly with electric power


BLASPHEMY!!!

;)

Brian

surely the moderator is on our side and will remove this charlatan from the ranks.[8D] maybe we can find him a quality recording of a piped YS short stoke and he can install a some sort of sound maker for it. what's next, make it a taildragger?[X(]

frequent flyer 04-07-2011 07:22 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
I build them all day every day, PPG automotive finishes, Glass work , fuses , cores .......
[email protected]

Alan W 04-08-2011 12:43 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 


ORIGINAL: dhal22



ORIGINAL: Ilikebipes


I have an original Glass/Foam DB60 I would like to see fly with electric power


BLASPHEMY!!!

;)

Brian

surely the moderator is on our side and will remove this charlatan from the ranks.[8D] maybe we can find him a quality recording of a piped YS short stoke and he can install a some sort of sound maker for it. what's next, make it a taildragger?[X(]

SMOOCHES for both of you ...

... from my bad breathed dog :eek:

dhal22 04-08-2011 01:59 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
:D

Alan, as you see we prefer nitro in this forum. no offense intended just humor.

louie525 04-09-2011 07:56 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
Hi,

I am located in the Chicagoland area and have over 30 years experience building and flying RC aircraft. I have built several MK kits over the years and I would be willing to build this plane for you. I have recently painted a Dirty Birdy .60 for Rusty Dose and other pattern guys in the Chicagoland area. I am currently working on a Phoenix 8 and plan on attending Rusty's contest in May. I can get several referrals for you. I have built a couple of the .25 sized versions of the Blue Angel back in the 80's. I would also suggest maybe taking the extra time to copy the parts and try to make a couple of planes and keep the original kit intact? Just an idea. Send me a PM if you are interested. Thanks and good luck!

RC_Pattern_Flyer 04-09-2011 08:37 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
Someone earlier mentioned the plans. I have a pdf of original line drawn plans for .60 Blue Angel

PM if interested.

Chuck

bem 04-15-2011 09:49 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
An MK Blue Angel 60kit isnowon flybay (not mine).

/Bo

dhal22 04-15-2011 03:57 PM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
wow!

CGRetired 05-07-2011 09:23 AM

RE: Look for classic pattern builder
 
I am currently actively moderating this forum and will spend as much time taking care of the forum. I started moderating this forum a couple of months ago and am now just getting up to speed on what has to be done here. I do not have control over what has happened in the past. RCKen is the Community Moderator and has that say-so and until I get totally up to what is going on here, I will rely on him to give me direction where needed.

In the mean time, I've been looking over Rusty's posts and have released most of the recent ones, working back in date. As I said, I do not have any say so on his situation, that is between him and RCKen. When and if that situation gets settled, I would assume that things will go back to normal.

Please be patient as I get caught up here, and thanks for understanding.

CGRetired.


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