Vertigo from the 70's
 

Hello all,
Not realy sure if it was a pure patern model, but it was what I aspired to own in the late 70's when all the cool cats had them and I was just a boy.
Think some guy called Vanden Berg designed it.
Does anyone know if I can get plans for one.
Regards
Rod

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Don't know about plans, but I seem to remember Model Aviation had an article on a heavily modified Vertigo renamed the "Meticulous Obsession"

Late 80's I think. It was on the cover...

Joe W.

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The article says its a modified Vertigo II

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Rod, I flew the Vertigo II back in the mid seventies and I'm pretty sure I still have the plans although they were for the fiberglass/foam version. They might not be 1:1 scale either but I can check. Regardless, the plans would still be good for outline, moments, airfoils (stab airfoil was diamond shape), etc. Let me know and I can get them copied.

Jeff L

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A good friend and pattern buddy flew the Vertigo for a couple of seasons. He seemed to think that it was designed by Tom Cook, IIRC. It was a nice plane, but like all swept wing pattern ships, dihedral was critical. Rudder coupling was a problem too.


Ed Cregger

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Found my plans for the Vertigo II which depict the designers as Bob Reuther and Tom Moore. Kitted by Skyglas Fabricators.

A couple of photos. The blue and white one was mine.

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I saw a Vertigo II at Wing Mfg---it was one of the models he was interested in re-kitting. Don't know how the project has progressed since then, but it was at least "in the works". Is there a date on the plans, or any documentation to show when the plane was first designed/flown? It is a very nice-looking design--if it was designed/flown before 1-1-76, it would be SPA-legal.

I'd appreciate any definite information on that date.

Duane

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Thanks for all your replys,
I think we are talking about a different plane as the one I saw as a kid had a square fus.
It was almost an anti aerodynamic design to look at, but flew the socks off all the other planes at the time.
I will put a post on a U.K site and get you back details of the european version if I can.
Rod

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Vertigo 2, Frank van den Berg, published in Radio Modeller (RM11) 1967. I have a magazine reproduction of the plan and I belive that there may be a full size plan available if I buy an unfinished one that is up for sale at the local model shop... pm me with your email if you can't find anything closer.
Evan.

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I wonder if it is a different model with the same name?

The Vertigo by Tom Cook that I'm talking about resembled Don Lowe's Phoenix somewhat. Swept wings, no box fuselage, etc. I think I recall that my friend said that he met the designer (Tom Cook) of his Vertigo at the Nats one year. It was a fiberglass (polyester resin) and foam kit and was an early effort of an aspiring pattern pilot from Tennesse, Kentucky or Ohio. My friend powered his with a Super Tigre G60 Bluehead (flat piston). It did a fine job of hauling the Vertigo around the pattern.


Ed Cregger

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Very different, Frank's model is small, square and with an almost cruciform tail. Plan shows a Merco 61, must have been really `hot' specially for the late `60's. Would be considered pretty warm now, definitely a `BPA' model, but pretty small by todays standards.

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Pimmnz,
Sounds like you know the one I was thinking of. You said plans were available, any idea where to look?
I remember a Vertigo being the star of a large model show that I went to with my dad in the late 70's.
Pure Solarfilm red, fully square fuz with a Webra 60 up front. To this day I have not seen any other model out spin a Vertigo: The bloke would climb to a dot in the sky then spin all the way down, doing 70 plus spins.
I would like to get one for old time sake and find an unrun/good vintage Webra or HP 61 and just punch holes in the sky.
I now fly electric or petrol, but would put up with all that oil and go back to glow just to fly a Vertigo.
As you say it might be a bit tame by todays standards, but it would be nice to find out.
Just out of interest how powerful is a 30 year old webra or HP compared to a modern engine, would a new 45 be more power?
Rod

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Rodders,
The plan shows a Merco .60 on a 55" 5.5lb model. Eye watering then and not much different now. With a modern light .45 to .60 engine it would be difficult to track... I have `borrowed' the original drawings and can do a full size copy if you wish, they have been `annotated' by the builder but are otherwise original, with the magazine article as well. Send your snail mail address with your PM if you want this stuff.
Evan.

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You are right, it was Tom Moore, not Tom Cook. I'm not familiar with Bob Reuther, no slight to him intended.


Ed Cregger

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Looking back at my blue and white Vertigo shown earlier in this post, I think I should receive the "ugliest paint scheme of all time" award. I was only 13 years old when I built and flew that one....that's my excuse. Photo was taken at the 78 Canadian Nats in Gimli, Manitoba....just north of Winnipeg.
An interesting story about my Vertigo and those Nats, one afternoon a nasty storm containing a series of small twisters blew right thru the Nats campground site. The Lionel pop-up camper that I was in was lifted completely off the ground and flipped upside down. The trailer collapsed on itself when it came down inverted....with me in it!! The entire event occurred quickly and with little warning. I was fortunate enough to crawl out via the small door uninjured. And now the pertinent and interesting part of the story. When that happened, both my Vertigo and my father's Blue Angel (see photo) were in the trailer at opposite ends sitting on the slide-out beds. The Blue Angel suffered major damage while incredibly, my Vertigo survived unscathed. I flew it thru the rest of the contest. Lucky considering the substantial distance we travelled to get to that contest.
Perhaps some readers were there that year and recall the incident. Anybody wanna buy a slightly used trailer??

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First Tom Moore of Kinston, N.C. designed the Vertigo and made several changes in the plane to inprove performance. I have a nib kit of the Vertigo two made by Skyglass. Tom is a good friend of mine he went to work for Bob Reuther who owned Hobby World in Tennesse. The last time I saw Tom fly was at the World Championships meet in 1988 at Virgina Beach. I have lots of pictures of Toms plane if you are interested also I know all the mods that Tom did to his last plane. If you are interested in a Vertigo two kit I would sell mine. Ronnie Weaver, Garner, NC

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Thanks weave, but he wanted the English version, and he now has the plans etc.
Evan.

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Thanks everyone,
Pimmnz kindly sent me a set of plans for the English version.
I have just bought a BNIB Webra 61 speed, rear exhaust which should go in it and will probably now build it next year.
Regards
Rod

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I had a Vertigo II for about 4 years in the late '70s. I bought it already built with the fiberglass fuselage and the balsa skin covered foam wing and stab. With a piped Rossi .60 it was an outstanding pattern ship. If I could find one today, I'd grab it. I know it's cliche, but thiey just don't make them like they used to.
Regards
JC

RE: Vertigo from the 70's
 

Since we are talking about two different designs with the same name, here is the Brit version of the Vertigo from 1967.

Ray

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Hi Weave,
Do you still have the Skyglas Vertigo II kit?
JC