Pagain Mk2 Pattern ship
 

Has anyone built or flown one of these? It was made in Cal. and has fiberglass fuse. Foam wing and stab. Wrapping paper inside was newsprint dated 1968. Looks pretty well made and want to use it for Senior pattern. .60 size ship kind of updated Kaos looking.
Cheers,Dan

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Dan,

I think I have an RCM where the Pagan was advertised. Let me check and if so, I'll scan it and send it to you for "proof" of date. By the way.. 1968 will qualify the plane for both the VR/CS contests, SPA, and BPA.

Dan
Carolina Custom Aircraft

RE: Pagain Mk2 Pattern ship
 

Sorry to butt in Dan, but I just happened to come across the following - one of the last ads for the Mk1 and the first ad for the Mk2. Looks like the Pagan Mk2 was first introduced in August 1967.

I have left the magazine dates on the scans for verification purposes. There is also a short product review of the MK2 in the February 1968 issue of RCM.

Perhaps Ralph White ( Fliteglass Laminates) who posts on this board can give us some more details.

Ray

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I had one (67 – 68 time frame) and it flew pretty well. Use light sheeting for the wing with Monokote and paint for the fuselage and it should fly well. Not much room in the nose for the engine so you’ll most likely need to use a 2 stroke 61. I side mounted the engine on my second one at a 45 degree angle. Some of the pre Ralph White kits had the scribe line for the stab cutout off by a few degrees to check the stab alignment before you glass it in. You will need to use polyester resin to glass stuff in the fuselage.

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Thank you all for info. Just what I wanted to know.
Cheers,Dan

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Yes, I can tell you about the Pagan. I designed the plane and produced the kits for it and several others in the early 60's. I havent seen one for years and still think it was one of the best flying airplanes I ever flew. I have been building models since 1939 and flying RC since 1949. The Pagan was the first glass fuselage design I ever did. First I only made a few fuselages and sold them to local flyers. I gave one of the fuselages to Don Dewey , editor of RC Modeler magazine and he put a small picture of it in the magazine and soon I was in the Glass Airplane business. I then started producing a full kit of the Pagan Mk1 which was a constant chord , strip aileron version of the design. For my own use, I redesigned the swept leading edge version with barn door ailerons. Original power was a SuperTiger 60. The wing was kind of unique then. It had a progressive airfoil, full symetrical at the root, progressing to a lifting semisymetrical section at the tip and the bird flew well right up to the stall with the tips last to stall. Very easy nto land and very forgiving. To my knowledge, my company, Flightglass Laminates was the first to ever produce a complete kit with glass fuse and foam wings. We later produced the P51-D scale kit, I believe the first ever to have retractable gear, operating flaps and be a good flying scale model. I won a few small contests with mine and several customer builders did very well with it. Later we did a scale P-40 and several scale slope soaring gliders. I also designed a 60 sized easy to build trainer called a Flitebox. It was all 1/8 birch plywood fuselage, balsa tail surfaces, and foam wing. It actually flew better than most of the "stunters" and became my favorite airplane to fly. I used to do low rolling passes with it so low that the tip vortexes would kick up a puff of dust as the tips cleared the ground. There were never any full sized plans as all parte were cut to size and instructions were in photos. If anyone has any of my old kits, I would like to hear from you. I would really like to build another Flitebox!

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Oldpilotrex,
Thanks you for info of backround. Looks like you did great work on this design.
Cheers,Dan

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Whoa!!!! I thought I was the only one in the world that ever heard of a Pagan. I bought mine at Toledo when I was 12, that was my very first pattern plane. I have a picture of me holding it somewhere but I can't find it right now.

Interesting plane. I loved mine. But I take it you used polyester resin, because nothing would stick to it ;)

Mine was powered by a (get this) Fox eagle 2 on a tuned pipe. Man you talk about POWER. It would put Webras and Rossis to shame! My father was an old Fox guru from the 50s so he could really make one run....not too many people could. The neat thing about the Fox was that is was a long stroke engine in the days of revvers...and it would still out turn most of them. Unlimited vertical. And that plane was every bit of 9 1/2 lbs....

I loved the way it flew. I wanted to fly pattern SO bad, but the guys at my local field just hated that plane and gave my father a bunch of crap for "letting me have it" (one of them actually called him at home and tried to get him to make me sell it)....pffft I bought that plane with my own money, built it myself and flew it, so he told them to go jump...but just wouldn't support the whole pattern competition idea so I was stuck. Hard to get to a contest at 12 when nobody will drive you anywhere....LOL Also hard to get any coaching when everyone around you flies cubs and thinks you have no business flying a plane that will actually do more than 30mph.

As you can see I made up for it later. *ahem*

But thanks for a cool plane that I could actually find and afford to get, it's because of that plane that I returned to pattern so many years later in life!

-Mike

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What a small world it is. Ralph White is a member of this forum too and he was the next owner of Fliteglass.

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Yep mine was a Mk2, definitely....

I miss that plane.

-M