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windcosmic 05-13-2008 02:00 PM

Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
Hi! I am looking for plans for smaller engines.. any suggestion?

4u2nv-RCU 05-13-2008 02:05 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
There was a .10 size Dirty Birdy..EZ arf's had a .30 size copt of the Hanno Pretner Mystic I believe. Any other?



rainedave 05-13-2008 02:15 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
Tweedy Bird, Super Pacer, Minimaster, Flea Fli +10, Sun Fli 4-20. There are others, too.

David

windcosmic 05-13-2008 02:22 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
I never heard about the Minimaster.. where I can find a pic of it?

martenson 05-13-2008 02:44 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
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I have bought a Curare 60 from Sunshine Shop in germany, they even make a smaller one look.

Take care.

We deliver the Curare in three sizes, as C60, C40 and C10.
The Curare 10 can be watched only since a short time on model airports. Owing to its small dimensions it is transportable into every boot even when it is put togehter. With a 2,5 ccm motor the model can be started after short rolling or our with hand launching. In spite of its balanced flight property the Curare 10 is no model for beginners.
Specifications
Wingspan: 1030 mm
Length: 870 mm
Weight: from 1100 g
Motor: 2,5 - 3,5 ccm
kit contents:
ready-built GRP- fuselage, GRP- cowl, sheeted wings and tailplane, canopy, wooden parts, main gear, plan and parts-list.
time of delivery: 8 days


Please look here http://shop.wega-sunshine.com/index....08af0a35dbd8c&



windcosmic 05-13-2008 02:50 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
Thank you , Martenson.. Now I get a look!

rainedave 05-13-2008 02:53 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
Here's the Andrews (AAMCO) Minimaster:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=6318703

David

windcosmic 05-13-2008 03:00 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
Thank you, David!

windcosmic 05-13-2008 03:26 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
And what about the New Era Vs Flea Fly? Which is the best?

Free Bird 05-13-2008 03:31 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
There's also the Eyelash (mini Eyeball), LiL Vertigo, Flea Fli, New Orleanian Jr., Mini Kaos. Wasn't there also a Gator Flea? I have plans for all of these except the Gator Flea. Also, Lazer-works.com has a short kit of the MiniMaster.

FB

windcosmic 05-13-2008 04:41 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
Hi! Do you have a pciture of the New Orleanian Jr.?

rainedave 05-13-2008 04:55 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
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Here ya go:

windcosmic 05-13-2008 05:05 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
Wow this is just the plane I was looking for! Thanks Dave & Free Bird!

Free Bird 05-13-2008 07:00 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
Nice work raindave! BTW, the Gator Flea plans are still available from MAN, gonna order a set!

FB

HighPlains 05-13-2008 07:22 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
I always wanted to build an Under Dawg. Just has the look.

http://www.rcmmagazine.com/store/sto...vLBNJATzs2e5C6

rainedave 05-13-2008 08:40 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
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I have the Under Dawg plans (and the Top Dawg) in digital format. I haven't worked on them yet in Photoshop, though.

Here's the Gator Flea, not the best quality, but usable:

David

rainedave 05-13-2008 09:05 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
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Under Dawg! Three-foot span, three pounds... and 75mph!

WEDJ 05-13-2008 09:19 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
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Peppermint Pattie .15 (OK, I'm prejudiced)

.20 might be a bit much, scale it up by 10%

rainedave 05-13-2008 09:51 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
Great suggestion WEDJ. I've been perplexed by that odd cloud formation above your left shoulder since I first saw that photo last year.

David

70s Flyer 05-13-2008 10:08 PM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
Blue Angel 20

roncoleman 05-14-2008 12:12 AM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
Dave, I've looked at that photo more than a few times.
I never notice that until you pointed it out. Good looking.

NM2K 05-14-2008 07:04 AM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 


ORIGINAL: windcosmic

I never heard about the Minimaster.. where I can find a pic of it?

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Probably because it isn't a pattern plane. Neither is the Super Pacer, Pacer, Hammer, etc. The wing just happens to be on the bottom. That does not make them pattern planes any more than having the wing on the top makes a model a trainer.

Truthfully, there are no .20 sized classic pattern models that originated in the US. The displacement limit was 10cc back when the classic pattern planes were real patternships. Unlike some other countries (England & Japan, at the least), we Americans did not limit the engine displacement according to pattern class.

The Peppermint Pattie was available as a kit here in the US and utilized a .15 sized engine, but it was pattern-like and not a true patternship.

At one time, several companies offered fully symmetrical foam wings (one piece) that would have made cobbling up one's own low wing sport model a simple matter. I haven't heard of such things being available lately. Sig and Ace are two companies that made such offerings, but that was years ago.

It's early. I'm still on my first cup of coffee. My comments were not intended to offend anyone.


Ed Cregger

WEDJ 05-14-2008 07:20 AM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 


ORIGINAL: rainedave

Great suggestion WEDJ. I've been perplexed by that odd cloud formation above your left shoulder since I first saw that photo last year.

David
I never noticed that, either. Since I scanned it from an old b/w photo, it might just be a ripple in the photo. I'll check tonight when I get back home.

windcosmic 05-14-2008 07:36 AM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
Thanks to all for your suggestions. I really appreciate them..
last question.. who can help me in finding a scan of the New era .20 plans?

rainedave 05-14-2008 08:05 AM

RE: Classic pattern for .20 cu.in
 
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I'll send it along with the N.O. Jr.

David


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