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RE: Scaled Tiporare Plans
Well, that simplifies things Andy. I really didn't want to deal with folding props and actually thought it wouldn't be necessary but it's been a while since I've landed a gear less plane - never mind an electric one.
The solid props are of course much more efficient so Iguess I'll be trying a few 7 & 8" variations. David. |
RE: Scaled Tiporare Plans
Don,
I just saw you've updated the Tipo page on your site to include the Pico (10) and Nano (20) foam cores. I'm sending a Hawaiian client your way as it makes more sense for him to get the cores from you than from me. What's the state of the short kits for those scales? I could really use a Nano short kit in the near future as my wings and stabs are coming together. David. P.S. I'll send you this note via PM too in case you're not subscribed to the thread. |
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David,
I believe I'll be looking for one of them short kits also! Chuck |
RE: Scaled Tiporare Plans
Chuck,
Hopefully Don will have an ETA soon. I might be able to help with the wood sizing on teh Pico now that it's built. The Nano wouldn't be much different wood size wise and should come out quite light. I also hope Don retains the airfoiled fin on the little ones - they looks so much nicer! I'm considering dropping the electric Nano project as I'm planning on building a 72" span electric. The Nano I'd do would be built around the OS 32 SX and pipe with MK retracts. The only issue is that I'd like to stretch the fuse somewhat and I'm not sure if that is a headache for Don. I look forward to these builds! David. |
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hey doxilla i just wanted to let you know that i started on the fuse and scaled it to 78% and going to use your cores once i get them. I'll post pics as i go but not much to show right now. Any suggestions on what to use for fuse stringers. My local hobby shopr don't carry 1x1/2 tri stock. But hopefully i'll basic fuse assembled this weekend. Phil
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Wow Phil - Cool!
'tis been 16 months since the last post to this thread. I'd recommend that you start a new build thread on the Nanorare as it will be easier for forum members to follow your thread. Alternatively, you are welcome to use the thread I started. who knows, the posts could be contagious! :) Here's a link to the Nanorare thread I started: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_80..._1/key_/tm.htm I'll address your questions in that thread if you don't mind. I prefer to keep build threads separate from informational/development threads for ease of navigation. David. |
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A worthy thread to bring to the forefront again... for those of us that are addicted to balsa dust! [8D]
Great info! A RE NovaRossi R61, Purple Head, Black Speed/13 Would be crazy cool on this airplane! Brian |
RE: Scaled Tiporare Plans
Thanks Brian,
It's good to know that this thread is still serving a good purpose. I lost tally of how many scaled plans have been downloaded to date but they are many. As for 60 size classics, we are fortunate to now have many options in the form of glass/foam kits as well as other laser or CNC cut short wood kits. Unless one wanted to build a smaller (or larger) sized Tipo, my feeling is that the glass/foam kit is still the way to go. As designed, the Tipo isn't a difficult plane to frame up but it is tricky to carve to the right final shape, especially up front. The vertical also poses a bit of a challenge until one has built and aligned a few like it. These issues are nicely taken care of by the glass fuse. As for 15, 30 and 45 size versions (there is also a 120 size scaled version by request but is not very popular), they are all very doable to be framed up in a wood fuse/foam wing & stab. As mentioned in the new 40/45 size classics thread started by Tim, I have re-drawn the Tipo 30 to be easier yet to build (much less carving and symmetry tracking), has a lighter frame and interlocking construction (producing a self aligning fuse). Changes to the frame up and alignment of the vertical (fin) and fuse horizontal stab area were also incorporated and should make the rear end easier to deal with. I plan to have a laser cut kit of it made in the near future (when the Super Chipmunk 120 project is completed). If there is interest, the same could be done with the 45 size version. CAD plans for both would be drawn up (30 size are done and ready for cutting) and include foam core airfoil templates and planforms for those who wish to cut their own cores. As is known from this thread, cores are also available from Don at Eureka Aircraft. David |
Just found this thread from a link from another discussion.
i have an original MK Currare 20 (estate liquidation) I changed the state of the art (for the 80's) gear and engine. with JR mini servos ( digital, Corle$$, BB), K&B .21 FIRE, Magic Muffler(Aussie Tuned muffler) hobby king LiFe 1100 battery. the original MK mechanical retracts were kept. I am under 4 pounds this thing is a bullet in flight. Quite a delight the only issue is the plane is so much faster than originally planed, I had to add gap seals on the stab due to flutter, the stab is a little under built but no one ever expected it to run at 100+. if I could figure out how to post a picture I will. Sparky |
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Sparky,
go into advanced mode when posting with pictures. I look forward to seeing your C20 once you sorted out the posting issue. If it's not working out, I can walk you through it. David |
Second try on the MK Currare 20
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I think it worked I am all worn out definitely not an easy process. |
Second try on the MK Currare 20
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I think it worked I am all worn out definitely not an easy process. |
Originally Posted by doxilia
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Thanks Brian,
It's good to know that this thread is still serving a good purpose. I lost tally of how many scaled plans have been downloaded to date but they are many. As for 60 size classics, we are fortunate to now have many options in the form of glass/foam kits as well as other laser or CNC cut short wood kits. Unless one wanted to build a smaller (or larger) sized Tipo, my feeling is that the glass/foam kit is still the way to go. As designed, the Tipo isn't a difficult plane to frame up but it is tricky to carve to the right final shape, especially up front. The vertical also poses a bit of a challenge until one has built and aligned a few like it. These issues are nicely taken care of by the glass fuse. As for 15, 30 and 45 size versions (there is also a 120 size scaled version by request but is not very popular), they are all very doable to be framed up in a wood fuse/foam wing & stab. As mentioned in the new 40/45 size classics thread started by Tim, I have re-drawn the Tipo 30 to be easier yet to build (much less carving and symmetry tracking), has a lighter frame and interlocking construction (producing a self aligning fuse). Changes to the frame up and alignment of the vertical (fin) and fuse horizontal stab area were also incorporated and should make the rear end easier to deal with. I plan to have a laser cut kit of it made in the near future (when the Super Chipmunk 120 project is completed). If there is interest, the same could be done with the 45 size version. CAD plans for both would be drawn up (30 size are done and ready for cutting) and include foam core airfoil templates and planforms for those who wish to cut their own cores. As is known from this thread, cores are also available from Don at Eureka Aircraft. David What power ( gas or glow) would you recommend for the 111%, .......125%?? Thanks a lot Mitch |
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Originally Posted by 1scalebldr
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I'm currently flying a modified Dirty Birdy 60. Eureka cores, my fuse design. Flying Classic Pattern assn. I'm interested in the 111 or 125% Tipo short kit.
What power ( gas or glow) would you recommend for the 111%, .......125%?? Thanks a lot Mitch thanks for your interest in the scaled Tipo project. Short kits of the various scales are available from Eureka Aircraft. I don't believe the 125% was ever developed further with the 111% being the largest version that was scaled and kitted. This model is intended to be a 90-120 2-cycle glow powered design which otherwise would fly much like it's original 60 size counterpart from a power standpoint. Being larger, it would be easier to see. I'm aware of a couple of builds that used muffled OS 95AX engines for power but of course anything equivalent would be suitable too. If built to "incremental" scale in terms of wood sizing, the model would be very sold (it could be built much lighter per my Tiporare 30 re-design) and would benefit from a piped 90/95 setup or could go up to a 120 size engine on a muffler with which it would have ample power. I wouldn't recommend gas power on this design for a number of reasons but if really desired, a 20 cc gas engine could be used with proper planning. An electric version in any scale is also easily accomplished. The 111% version would do best on an 8s setup IMO. The photo below shows one of the Tipo 120's powered with a piped OS 95AX. I hope this helps, David |
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Dave,
Thanks for the reply. I just wrote Don T. A couple wks ago I'd ordered another set of Dirty Birdi 60 wing/ stab cores. This to build a back up to my 60 Dirty Birdi. I have pattern contests coming up. In my e-mail I asked Don what the wait time would be for say the 111% ( 120) Tipo. Unfortunately Dave McAllister passed, ( what a terrible loss) so pipes for say an AX95 are not available from Mac's. Do you know of another source for good pipes? My DB below. Dirty Birdi 60 wing/stab cores, I designed the fuse,lighter w/ different moments,fuel window, 65AX, Perry pump,Mac's pipe,conventional gear,retracts,Barbie w/ her own monogrammed flight jacket, 7.5 lbs dry. thanks Mitch in San Diego |
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