Escape plans
 

I cleaned up, re-arranged and added wing and stab core templates to my copy of the Escape plans. I also added a 6" scale to the title box.

PM for a copy.

David

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PM sent! Thank dave!

FB

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David,
If I provide you with the mods that I made to the original airplane in 1985 could you make those changes on the plans? Most the mods I made became what Bridi called the Great Escape but I never actually had one of those kits to look at.

Thanks,

Bill Cunningham

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I will give it a try. I'll PM my email address to you.

David

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Bill,

Would you mind sharing those mods with me as well? I have an escape on the way and would love to know what can be done to make it better. I was considering anhedral stabs.

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im building the great escape now

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Hi David,
If possible, I'd love the Great Escape plans. Hey Bill, How different was the Malibu (the .60 sized version)? Same wing and stab as the Great Escape as I recall - can we get plans for that??
Will

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Here are the mods I made to my original Escape's

1-Install 2-1/2 inch spinner and contour nose to match. Original is 2-1/4.

2- 2 degrees of down thrust, about.

2-Raise F-2 at the wing L.E. 3/8-1/2 inch. These two items make the bottom of the plane look flatter.

3-Lower the rudder hinge post 5/8 inch. Requires additional fuse side splice.

4-Extend the front of the bottom dorsal fin so its starts directly below the fin leading edge where it attaches at the fuse.

5-Build the stab straight, install so the stab T.E. centerline is centered on the fuse height at the rudder hinge line.

6- Bottom of the rudder, make parallel with fuse top.

7- Remove counterbalance from rudder and install to fin cap to overhang rudder. 1/2 inch tall.

I have some pictures of the original, I need to have them scanned to be able to post. I'll see if I can get that done.

Bill

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wow. nice to have a heavyweight chime in. thx bill.

david

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the great escape has 1/16 sheeting for the wings and 1/8 fuse sides going to be pretty light

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Thanks Bill. The plane should be here Thursday and I am off from the 24th to the 2nd so it will be balsa dust time.

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Thanks Bill. Take a look at what I drew over the plan in red. Let me know if I misread any of your instructions.

Edited to add one more image.

David

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HI DAVID I'D LIKE TO HAVE A COPY OF THOSE PLANS , YOU HAVE MY E-MAIL ALREADY, IF NOT LET ME KNOW SO I SEND IT TO YOU ONCE MORE.
TXS IN ADVANCE

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very nice david!

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David,

Your work with the plans is impressive. I assume you used a software package to draw and redraw them. Can you tell me what you used?

ChiefK

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David,

could you add me to the plans wanted droolers?

Many Thanks, David.

P.S. I'll get back to you re the M20 PM a little later.

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David,
I think you nailed it, great job. I cant remember if I lowered the thrust line but dont worry about that. Do the original plans show how much down thrust is in the engine? I know we had to increase it just a little to keep the plane from pitching to the canopy. Of course we didn't have adjustable anything back then, dark ages. I will take a set of the revised plans if I can. Does anyone have a canopy to make a plug and mold?

Bill

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Bill,

Escape canopy...

I purchased an Escape epoxy glass canopy from BlueJay models in Nebraska for my Deception a few weeks ago. They are $25.


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Thanks Bill. I drew the thrust line at neg. 2° which is what the plans show. What I posted was sort of a rough sketch until I knew it was correct. I am working on a final drawing now.

I finished the new fin/rudder drawing. This is really the only drawing needed. The nose and belly mods can be done by simply cutting a new 2 1/2" ply nosering and sawing 1/2" off the bottom of the former at the wing LE. The added area to the bottom of the fuselage sides is a straight line from the rudder hinge line to the bottom edge of the former at the wing's TE. My plans already show 2° of engine downthrust.

I can send this as a separate file to be used with the full plans. It is 20" wide x 12" tall.

David

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Looking good David and looking forward to studying them.

BTW, have a look at the M20 thread when you have a chance. I posted some updated info on the ST inquiry.

David.

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Anyone know what airfoil the Escape uses? I need to cut a new set of cores and it would be much easier to pull the airfoil into my cutter program from a digital database than make a tracing and go that route.

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Just found this, I think it is from the 1985 Worlds in Holland. Dave

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Dave

Do have this plan on autocad , dxf file or a pdf file that I could have ? I've always wanted to build this plane.

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FF,

I'm not sure if I already mentioned this in another thread but Rainedave has been absent recently from the forum. He is and has been always extremely generous with his excellent CAD work and I'm sure that when he returns he'll be happy to discuss this project further with the rest of us. The modifications for the Great Escape are quite unqiue I gather and for those who have a kit (or want to scratch one), it is a nice option.

On another note, it appears that the thread where we were discussing your work on the Aurora (45 and 60) has gone amiss. If and when you feel starting a new one with any work you may do toward molds and glass parts, I'll be eager to follow.

David.

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PM sent.