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s. wallace 12-27-2008 09:45 AM

Late 80's pattern models
 
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Finally got a scanner, here's a few shots from Sumter, SC & Winston-Salem, NC around 1989.
The red, blue & white Atlanta was one of Golden Gate Hobbies show planes, back there was a trade show that came to Atlanta and that model came home with us. Funny thing is the owner (Mark Corbett) much preferred the performance of his Augusta (think it's a MK II but not sure). The Avanti I (side exhaust) is mine, and the Joker is mine, the white Atlanta & Avanti II (rear exhaust) are Mark Thompson's, we were from Charlotte. The green Aurora is former NATS Masters champ David Hoppes, and the Aurora in the Naruke colors is an ARF put out by Ten Plus, cost around $1100 back then if I recall. The Typhoon w/ YS 1.20 signalled the beginning of the end for the 61 2 strokes :(

Ram Jet 12-27-2008 10:21 AM

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$1,100.00! I'm sticking with C/L and my park flyer. Nice aircraft and you have great taste in automobiles. I want to build the Tamiya 1:12 John Player Special. I gridded Andretti in that car in 1977 at Watkins Glen.

Bill

Atlanta 60 12-27-2008 10:47 AM

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Kewl Stuff!!

So was "Ten Plus" a dude (company) who built wood MK Aurora's and sold them in an "ARF form?? (Kinda like a building service??)

Or did they do something different like make their own glass fuses ect..??

Very interesting info..This is the era of pattern "I" like the most...Kinda why I hope BPA takes off...These planes are soooo Cool.... [8D]

Aurora, Atlanta, LA-1, Summit III are all planes I wished I could have had back then...I feel lucky to be able to have them now!! (Just gotta get somethin' built..he he)

Thanks for posting!!

Chuck

s. wallace 12-27-2008 12:25 PM

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What I do know about Ten Plus was that they imported turn key MK Aurora's (and a few other designs) and they had awesome finishes...but QC could be suspect. The one shown in the photo suffered a structural failure and an autopsy revealed almost no glue in the center section, although they did replace the model for the owner. Another I knew of had the aileron hinges pull out, again...almost no glue.

I bought the Avanti kits from Jim Graham at RC City when they were in Cali, I believe he moved to Tennessee and later offered the LA-1, Conquests, etc. They mave been more common on the West Coast but I never saw any others besides the 3 shown here on the East Coast.

Ram Jet, I just updated my screen name so some of the old gang might remember who I was, but yes always had a soft spot for Lotus cars having grown up an hour from the Glen and going to the F-1 races from the mid 60's through the last one in 1980.

grotto2 12-27-2008 12:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: Ram Jet

and you have great taste in automobiles.

Bill

Ha! That's back when you could get a pattern plane in a car!

s. wallace 12-27-2008 01:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: grotto2



ORIGINAL: Ram Jet

and you have great taste in automobiles.

Bill

Ha! That's back when you could get a pattern plane in a car!
Yeah, Tony Bonnetti used to cary his Troublemaker's in a Maserati:)

mercura 01-01-2009 12:41 PM

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Hi, Just wondering what model is in photo three top row. Dave

Atlanta 60 01-01-2009 01:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: mercura

Hi, Just wondering what model is in photo three top row. Dave
I'm thinkin' it's a LA-2...May be wrong though...

s. wallace 01-01-2009 01:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: Atlanta 60


ORIGINAL: mercura

Hi, Just wondering what model is in photo three top row. Dave
I'm thinkin' it's a LA-2...May be wrong though...

That aircraft is an "Augusta", designed by Darrol Kampshire (passed away last year I believe). Mr Kampshire designed a series of great flying pattern models in the 80's...maybe not well known nationally but they were well known in the southeast (I lived in Charlotte, NC back then). All balsa fuselage & foam/balsa wings, the one in the photo belonged to a friend of mine & he much preferred it to his Atlanta (the red, white, & blue one shown).


Atlanta 60 01-01-2009 03:52 PM

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Wonder why those guys were running side exhaust engines in those two Atlanta's??

s. wallace 01-01-2009 05:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: Atlanta 60

Wonder why those guys were running side exhaust engines in those two Atlanta's??
The explanation is simple enough, as I said in post #1 that red/white/blue Atlanta was one of the Golden Gate Hobbies show planes (to show a side exhaust option) and they also displayed a rear exhaust Atlanta and a Dash-5 at the trade show in Atlanta, in I think 1987. For whatever reason all three were up for sale, one friend of mine ended up buying all three but soon afterwards sold off the side exhaust version.

My pattern mentor & longtime pattern competitor (Mark Corbett) aquired the side exhaust Atlanta, and white one was built (excellent work) by a new pattern flier in the area, and he duplicated Mark's setup exactly. I followed suit with the side exhaust Avanti, although with external tuned pipe wasn't near as clean as the Atlanta wrap around header/enclosed pipe.


Franco2fly 06-12-2012 04:57 AM

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If this thread is still alive, I'm trying to identify the pattern plane that's in the foreground of this pictue:
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1.../Domino1-1.jpg


Here's a rear shot.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...s/D12flaps.jpg

Its all fiberglass fuselage, foam wings covered in Balsa, Speed webra .91 and about 8 pounds.

another shot

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...ots/D12top.jpg

Thanks


KKKKFL

TonyF 06-12-2012 05:25 AM

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It's a Brushfire, kind of kluged up. The flaps and the little tip pieces on the wing are not stock.

Franco2fly 06-12-2012 05:32 AM

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Thanks...
We had an earlier winner....  and tips and flaps seem to work well on it...  sure flew great.  It had been in the attic for about 20 years.  Webra was frozen solid.  I sank it in a pot of Brake fluid for 3 days, took it all apart, thoroughly cleaned.  It ran great once re-assembled.  Now with full Telemetry it's a real joy...  cruises around the sky at 60 mph, lands at 25 and very nice to have recovered and flown again.  Will have to have one of the Flying buddies get a shot on a low pass.

KKKKFL

doxilia 06-12-2012 07:20 AM

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Tony,

My recollection from the original Brushfire plans (MB magazine I believe) is that the wing was drawn with flaps albeit somewhat smaller then the ones on this model. They were straight and in line with each other while the ailerons began where the wing TE swept back.

I seem to remember it due to the fact that the servos are shown as being inset into the foam on their sides into circular wells. I found the approach of not only separate aileron but also flap servos to be unique for a design of that era.

Make sense?

David

Franco2fly 06-12-2012 07:29 AM

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It looks like the MB plans show a built up fuselage too!. 

Mine is fiberglass, and I have no idea where it came from.  My recollection is that many many years ago I was trolling through a hobby shop and the fuse was hanging from the ceiling.  The wings and stab came in a box, but there was no other hardware.  I don't even think there were any plans.   I drilled a hole about 2 inches forward of the trailing edge and pushed a fiberglass arrow shaft out each way.  in the center I drilled and tapped for a 1 inch long 4-40 screw that was flattened, this went to the servo.
At each end a similar screw comes down towards the floor.  These push out Fowler type flaps.  I seem to recall that tunnels went out towards the tips and aileron servos are mounted about half way out each wing.

With a modern radio, it sure flies sweet.  I like the slow flap deployment, and the elevator offset programming and the Telemetry is just icing on the cake.

KKKKFL

TonyF 06-12-2012 11:57 AM

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Yes, the original had flaps as you described. I had the 3rd Brushfire built by Ken and Steve. It was built for another pilot, Fred Kugel. He didn't like it and I bought it from him. I flew it in a few local meets. It was a great flying model back then.


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