Identify this plane - now SBA 60 Restore
 

Can anyone help me identify this plane?

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Is it a 60 size aircraft and can you show us the inside and the wing?

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Inside of the wing? The stabs and main wing are foam core.

Here are the stabs stripped and the wing being stripped.

The ailerons were controlled by a single servo in the center of the
main wing at one time.

It looks like someone modified it and added servo's in the retract/wheels
holes.

It also looks like the builder installed fix landing gear blocks twice!

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Can you give some lengths. Looks like a later design. Got potential.

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Length with the rudder is 65"
Wing span varies but is approx. 69" wide.

The fiberglass fuse is in good condition except for the monster engine
hole and the drilled holes on the other side of the engine compartment.

Everything else is easily repairable.

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Mmm...

those dimensions are reminiscent of later MK designs. But given it is glass and foam, one might suspect it was manufactured in the US. Maybe mid-80's.

Kregan,

I don't see any retract wheel wells. Were they covered with sheeting after the initial build? The location of the outboard aileron servos is no where close to where the wheels should retract.

The two fixed landing gear blocks appear to have been installed to allow for two possible layouts: trike and tail dragger.

David.

P.S. Except for the fin and rudder, it does seem to convey lines of a Blue Angel clone.

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that's what i thought when i 1st saw it.

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It looks a lot like a SBA 60. If Kelly could take a picture
of the inside of the fuse and a better side profile it might
help ID the plane.

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From his measurements it would be too big to be a FK SBA Speeda 60. The wing span on the SBA is 61.5” and about 65” for the Blue Angel. The SBAs didn’t have that wheelie thing on their tails either.

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Looks like a Conquest to me. I have no idea which version .

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A few more pictures.

The wing has had the wheel holes filled in with balsa where the servos
are now located. The balsa wood grain is in the opposite direction from
the rest of the wing. Maybe it was supposed to have rotating retracts
that folded back?

The plane did not come with any type of belly pan. If you look at he wing
fit at the LE of the main wing it does not fit real well. I do not see any evidence
of modification to the wing mount so I imagine this is the correct wing for the plane.

The plane was free and I just couldn't see it go in the dumpster.

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From the construction, inside formers, firewall, motor mounts and over all shape, it looks very much like a FK SBA Speeda 60 kit, but your measurements are way too big for it to be 60 size. From the measurements you listed it would need to be a 120 size aircraft and I’ve never seen that size listed in any of the old FK ads. Are you sure it has a 69” wing span straight across wing tip to wing tip? If you took 10” off each measurement you would be right on the 60 size.

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Sorry, my mistake I typed 69" and it is 59".

57-3/4" at the LE
and 60" at the TE

and the length is 55" with the rudder.

Sorry for the confusion.

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Sounds like you're the winner Mike! Then again, you have good reason to be.

David.

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Congratulations! In that case you might find this build helpful http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=7510820 Enjoy and I see that you ripped that wheelie thing off the tail ASAP.

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I didn't see where anyone mentioned the Vertigo or Vertigo II as a possible candidate.

A friend of mine used to campaign the Vertigo and Curare models. I liked the looks of his Vertigo models better, but his Curare models out flew his Vertigos by a long shot.

I wonder when the fellow that is selling the glass and foam Phoenix 8 kits is going to get back and begin sales again? Anyone know?


Ed Cregger

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Very kewl!! Nice Score!!

Chuck

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Thanks guys.

So did I get a good deal on this plane ? :)

The fiberglass repair will be tricky since the cut went up into
the canopy area.

I would really like to make this electric and power it with
A123 cells.

The tail wheel it gone! :D and nice build thread!

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You should be able to fix it using the same process I used to fix the hacked up areas on my SBA Speeda. You will need to check out the weight pretty carefully before deciding on the power system. The SBA has a pretty small wing for its size and I don’t know that it would be a good candidate for sparky stuff.

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You're relentless and I love it.:D

David

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I knew it was a SBA 60. Even with those bad numbers and that wheelie thing
on its tail. I picked up two indicators from Mike's build that indicated that the
fuse was a SBA 60.

Kelly please post a few pictures as you move through the repairs and once
it completed.

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Hi Ed,
It is definitely not a Vertigo II.

-Robert

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I will post pics of the repairs when I get started.

Thanks again for the help.

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I got started sooner then I thought.

Wing:
After removing all the fixed landing gear wood and the old servo pockets
from the wheel wells the is what I had left.

I routed out the foam so it has a smooth bottom and plan on gluing new
foam in its place and re sheeting those sections.

The wing weighs in at 1.6 pounds now. It was over 2 pounds when I
started.

Fuse:
Stripped it down most of the way. The former directly in front of the main
wing was half way loose and I was able to remove it intact. This should
make the repair to the front wheel area a lot easier.

I will also need to repair the dowel holes in that former. The original builder
had the holes elongated and I will be installing new dowels into the main
wing for a better alignment.