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ORIGINAL: ChiefK Sorry David. Beat you to it. Check my post #15. ChiefK so you did. great minds think alike. |
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Good news guys. So we have a Curare.
The question now is: who is producing a Curare ARF? And if it is an ARF, is it composite or a "Tower Kaos" version of that design? David. |
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Hey, maybe a "Tower Kaos" version will sell for $100 US?
Jim ORIGINAL: doxilia Good news guys. So we have a Curare. The question now is: who is producing a Curare ARF? And if it is an ARF, is it composite or a "Tower Kaos" version of that design? David. |
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I'd buy one at that price.
Andy |
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If the little ShoeString now has a glass <of sorts> fuse... one would think so would the Curare... no?
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Wow,
Even though I may pass on the H9 Phoenix 7 [&o], there is no way I will be able to pass up on a Curare. That plane and the EU1A are the two planes that got me into Classic Pattern planes in the first case...:D I'll be patiently waiting for more information. David |
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so when is this Curare coming out? if tthe wait is too long i may end up getting the P7?
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Also curious as to any new info. If Tower/Hobbico was "smart" they would release some info. Lot's of people will end up with the 7 instead as they will have never even heard of this offering.
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Why are they doing the Curare When they had the Tiporare a few years back?? Just curious......
Tim By the way I'll have both please:D the 7 and the.... rare. Whichever it may be tipo or cura |
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Scoop...it is NOT from Great planes, Tower or any other Hobbico entity!!!
The very special offering is NOT from Great Planes, Tower or any other Hobbico entity. As exciting, cool and interesting as we are in the "classics"...we are typically good for fewer than 100 units of anything that is specialized. Now, if it is a Yak, Cap, Sukhoi or a P-51...hundreds and hundreds of units could be absorbed by the market place. The Hangar 9 Phoenix 7 will be a grand experiment by a savy marketer providing our tiny segment of the world of toy airplanes an excellent choice. The "Scoop..." will be produced and may be available in the US. Rusty Dose Team Futaba |
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come on rusty ..more info plz, this isnt "Skunk Works" lol
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Update- The prototype has been delivered and under comprehensive review by the original designer and customer. The US distribution rights are currently being discussed, are confidential and I have no specific information regarding the status other than the original "suggested distributors list" I provided. Additional information- As previously stated, I believe this particular model will be of the highest quality, represent a "value" considering the design legacy and execution (...not inexpensive!). I am aware of other projects being considered to meet the growing interest in classic pattern. Rusty's thesis for growth- Classic pattern models represent a "connecting point" between airplane modelers between the ages of 40 and 55. The "ballistic boomers" were exposed to the golden age of radio control aerobatics, pattern flying, in their youth and are approaching or have approached their peak earnings (higher disposable income) and are seeking a high performance modeling experience that is not a turbine, Yak, Extra or P-51 and more than likely has NOT been participating in present day pattern due to the complexity, challenges to compete and costs. My suggestion to manufacturers and marketers is "...create offerings and they will sell!" I believe that maketing plans which "grass roots" using social networking outlets like RCU to articulate a new product and then provide a series of flying demonstrations or participation in events that will reach "early adopters", modelers who are leaders in their local clubs and provide the catalyst for sales. The real opportunity is not the "ARF model" rather the opportunity to provide motors, exhaust systems, servos and specialty hardware. Rusty Dose Team Futaba |
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ORIGINAL: BERUSTY Scoop! Too early to release information... Rusty's thesis for growth- Classic pattern models represent a ''connecting point'' between airplane modelers between the ages of 40 and 55. The ''ballistic boomers'' were exposed to the golden age of radio control aerobatics, pattern flying, in their youth and are approaching or have approached their peak earnings (higher disposable income) and are seeking a high performance modeling experience that is not a turbine, Yak, Extra or P-51 and more than likely has NOT been participating in present day pattern due to the complexity, challenges to compete and costs. Rusty Dose Team Futaba |
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ORIGINAL: BERUSTY [Rusty's thesis for growth- Classic pattern models represent a ''connecting point'' between airplane modelers between the ages of 40 and 55. The ''ballistic boomers'' were exposed to the golden age of radio control aerobatics, pattern flying, in their youth and are approaching or have approached their peak earnings (higher disposable income) and are seeking a high performance modeling experience that is not a turbine, Yak, Extra or P-51 and more than likely has NOT been participating in present day pattern due to the complexity, challenges to compete and costs. years to that number lol. I’m sure there are more than a few old dudes out there that still push a classic pattern plane through the old pattern maneuvers in a very respectful manner. I do agree with your statement though. [sm=thumbs_up.gif] |
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ORIGINAL: BERUSTY Rusty's thesis for growth- Classic pattern models represent a ''connecting point'' between airplane modelers between the ages of 40 and 55. The ''ballistic boomers'' were exposed to the golden age of radio control aerobatics, pattern flying, in their youth IMHO, beautiful, exotic designs like the Curare are the apex of R/C model design, and an updated electric powered Curare ARF with retracts option would certainly earn a sale from me, assuming it's not ridiculously expensive. I don't want to compete with it, I just want to enjoy flying it. |
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After the last couple of updates I'm getting less enthused. It now seems this may be a little exclusive and expensive. Not much different than the current method of getting into classic, ballistic pattern acft. (Sans the Phx 7 of course).</p> I know everybody's situation is different but I think I fit a very large (probably the largest) demographic that mfg's should be targeting.</p> Married, at home kids, no dedicated workshop, time and money severely limited by a dozen variables or just plain guilt. This is exactly why our current crop of ARF's has taken over the hobby. A once ARF basher, I'm now a huge fan. But how many friggin' Mustangs or SUKI-YAK-EDGE-CAPS do we need!! As a fan of ballistic pattern acft I've been waiting and waiting (Intruder, ug, who picked that?). Finally the Phx 7. Not my first choice but the only one in town. I was hoping the "scoop" offering was an inexpensive, mass produced Curare ARF like that. </p> If I were King of the World - A $299 glass fues, sheeted wing ARF from the ballistic "A" list. Atlanta, Aurora, Angel. (Curare, Tipo would do)</p> Throw it together, fly the piss out of it, crash it - repeat. </p> Thx, My 2c... </p></font> |
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Yeah, I hear you.
But if one can resist buying two BH or GP ExtraCapYakMustang ARFS to save up for one Classic that's a little more expensive, it'd be worth it. The physcological thing about 400 dollar ARFs is a bit hard to ignore. I know. Building from plans is cheapest, but kids and honey always want ones attention... Maybe the P7 isn't ones favorite, I thought is was a little plain. But once i saw them fly last month, I became a fan. Chris... |
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I just hope that the building aspect of classic pattern doesn't get lost because of arfs entering the market place. It has been motivating to see and participate in crafting these airplanes, sharing techniques, and learning from those that have really made an impact in hthe history of rc flight. Arfs are great, no doubt. Hopefully classic pattern contests will strive to keep this art form alive by offering notice like Rusty Dose did in Chicago.
Noticing great built airplanes ought to be a different category than giving attention to a nice arf. Everyone should be able to participate and should be encouraged to participate. So I say let's see what the market creates for these manufacturers. Maybe this could provide a boost in our economy. Brian |
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I hope the craftsmanship aspect of this hobby doesn't go away either. One day (after launching a kid or two) I hope to be back in the thick of it. But for now, if I have 10 hours a month to enjoy my hobby. How do I allot my time. Welcome to the ARF-n-Barf Buffet baby! It's happy hour... no waiting...</p> At the contests I think awards for models - Best Restoration, Best New Build, Best Historic Untouched etc would be great. Maybe even a Best ARF Wan'na-Be for those who like to hot rod their ARFS. Or not… I'm sure the ARF guys are just happy to be competing. I know I would, IF YOU GUYS COULD GET WITHIN A THOUSAND MILES OF AZ.:D </p> Doh! I just noticed stuntflyer is from CA and made it all the way to Chicago for the last event. I'm Jeleous. Where's the next event? I think I may have some inlaws there… Hummm..</p> </p></font> |
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ORIGINAL: BERUSTY Scoop! Too early to release information... Update- The prototype has been delivered and under comprehensive review by the original designer and customer. The US distribution rights are currently being discussed, are confidential and I have no specific information regarding the status other than the original ''suggested distributors list'' I provided. Additional information- As previously stated, I believe this particular model will be of the highest quality, represent a ''value'' considering the design legacy and execution (...not inexpensive!). I am aware of other projects being considered to meet the growing interest in classic pattern. Rusty's thesis for growth- Classic pattern models represent a ''connecting point'' between airplane modelers between the ages of 40 and 55. The ''ballistic boomers'' were exposed to the golden age of radio control aerobatics, pattern flying, in their youth and are approaching or have approached their peak earnings (higher disposable income) and are seeking a high performance modeling experience that is not a turbine, Yak, Extra or P-51 and more than likely has NOT been participating in present day pattern due to the complexity, challenges to compete and costs. My suggestion to manufacturers and marketers is ''...create offerings and they will sell!'' I believe that maketing plans which ''grass roots'' using social networking outlets like RCU to articulate a new product and then provide a series of flying demonstrations or participation in events that will reach ''early adopters'', modelers who are leaders in their local clubs and provide the catalyst for sales. The real opportunity is not the ''ARF model'' rather the opportunity to provide motors, exhaust systems, servos and specialty hardware. Rusty Dose Team Futaba What's the reason for not releasing the P8? It was a better flier. |
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Intruder, ug, who picked that?). |
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What's the reason for not releasing the P8? It was a better flier. |
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ORIGINAL: doxilia Good news guys. So we have a Curare. The question now is: who is producing a Curare ARF? And if it is an ARF, is it composite or a ''Tower Kaos'' version of that design? David. I would settle for a Tower Kaos type of Curare. I've never flown a Curare, so I wouldn't know the difference. As long as it captured the essence of the Curare I'd be happy. Now to get one of those Phoenix 7 ARFs from Horizon Hobby. Ed Cregger |
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ORIGINAL: NM2K I would settle for a Tower Kaos type of Curare. I've never flown a Curare, so I wouldn't know the difference. As long as it captured the essence of the Curare I'd be happy. ORIGINAL: NM2K Now to get one of those Phoenix 7 ARFs from Horizon Hobby. |
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ORIGINAL: Sport_Pilot What's the reason for not releasing the P8? It was a better flier. |
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