Taxes on Internet sales
04-26-2013, 04:32 AM
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ORIGINAL: OldRookie
If this was the case, anyone that was going to sell something, couldn't do it unless they had a permit from the State to collect sales tax.
This is how it is/was in Minnesota.
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When they tried this last year, the TV talking heads said, technically when you sell your used lawnmower (or anything else) to your neighbor you're supposed to collect and forward sales tax to the state,, basically any transaction made in this country should be taxed including Barter deals.
When they tried this last year, the TV talking heads said, technically when you sell your used lawnmower (or anything else) to your neighbor you're supposed to collect and forward sales tax to the state,, basically any transaction made in this country should be taxed including Barter deals.
This is how it is/was in Minnesota.
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04-26-2013, 05:49 AM
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I don't know if it will pass. I live in Oregon, we do not have State Sales Tax, so how will that work? Another thought, what do the sellers do on Ebay, if this stupid idea passes???
04-26-2013, 06:19 AM
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The chicoms have been skirting US trade law for decades. I'm sure they will try to side-step it somehow if it ever becomes "law"
The chicoms have been skirting US trade law for decades. I'm sure they will try to side-step it somehow if it ever becomes "law"
In fact there are companies and lawers waiting to challenge this law if it pases on similar grounds, that states cannot tax citizens located in other states, they say the Constitution forbids this even if the Feds pass a law. I'm not so sure about that one because of the broad interpretation of the commerse clause.
04-26-2013, 06:33 AM
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The feds would to build a "new department" to run this and we all know how well the gov. runs their programs. If they enforced the trade laws already on the books they would recoup a lot of $$$.
Folks who sell on the net with a store and resale/tax numbers have to collect and report tax for in-state sales. Out of state sales do not require it.
On the state level there has always been talks of trying to tax flea-markets, yard-sales, etc.. Highly unlikely it would be successful if ever enacted.
Folks who sell on the net with a store and resale/tax numbers have to collect and report tax for in-state sales. Out of state sales do not require it.
On the state level there has always been talks of trying to tax flea-markets, yard-sales, etc.. Highly unlikely it would be successful if ever enacted.
04-26-2013, 07:28 AM
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Many states collect sales tax on internate sales. I know because I live in one of them. Our federal government is broke and must come up with ways to collect further taxes. This will never end and wait untill we are taxed to drive on our roadways.
04-26-2013, 07:33 AM
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Many states collect sales tax on internate sales. I know because I live in one of them. Our federal government is broke and must come up with ways to collect further taxes. This will never end and wait untill we are taxed to drive on our roadways.
Many states collect sales tax on internate sales. I know because I live in one of them. Our federal government is broke and must come up with ways to collect further taxes. This will never end and wait untill we are taxed to drive on our roadways.
04-26-2013, 07:46 AM
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Many states collect sales tax on internate sales. I know because I live in one of them. Our federal government is broke and must come up with ways to collect further taxes. This will never end and wait untill we are taxed to drive on our roadways.
Many states collect sales tax on internate sales. I know because I live in one of them. Our federal government is broke and must come up with ways to collect further taxes. This will never end and wait untill we are taxed to drive on our roadways.
04-26-2013, 09:35 AM
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RE: Taxes on Internet sales
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I hope they do.
I just got a prescription filled at Costco for $8.30. Wall mart wanted $53 and Wallgreens wanted $63. Some local stores have insane profit margins.
I hope they do.
I just got a prescription filled at Costco for $8.30. Wall mart wanted $53 and Wallgreens wanted $63. Some local stores have insane profit margins.
04-26-2013, 11:11 AM
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RE: Taxes on Internet sales
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When you see a large variation in pricing you have to ask why. I don't believe it is all insane profit as you indicate. It costs something to put stores in convenient locations as Wallgreens does(and provide local jobs), not so much the case with Wallmart(they are big box like COSTMO)...that looks more like marketing....they might be preying on the crowd that originally came in for the great deals on clothes and food...got to make it up somewhere. BTW...I am also contributing...as my income went down 10k this year, but I paid 2k more in social security tax...that is disappointing, and now a new tax proposed on internet sales? How about everyone pays tax instead of just 50% of us? It was also telling to see the POUS pay right at 18% on his over 600k income...while I paid close to 25% on a mere fraction of what he made....this is the leader that says those that make more should ''pay their fair share''...say what turkey? VOTE THEM OUT...OUT...OUT.
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I hope they do.
I just got a prescription filled at Costco for $8.30. Wall mart wanted $53 and Wallgreens wanted $63. Some local stores have insane profit margins.
I hope they do.
I just got a prescription filled at Costco for $8.30. Wall mart wanted $53 and Wallgreens wanted $63. Some local stores have insane profit margins.
Wallgreens sells many other items. I doubt there are any other items that are marked up that much. A lot of grocery stores survive and create jobs on a much lower markup.
I guess they have decided to stick it to those that have to have it or die.
04-26-2013, 11:59 AM
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I believe it is there intent, at least according to there own words. The great one has said in speaches back in 96-98 that we are to rich, to powerfull, and don't deserve the wealth this country has. The intent is to collapse the system. Capitalism is on its way out, socialism is the replacement.
I believe it is there intent, at least according to there own words. The great one has said in speaches back in 96-98 that we are to rich, to powerfull, and don't deserve the wealth this country has. The intent is to collapse the system. Capitalism is on its way out, socialism is the replacement.
Come on people.. Quit watching CNN/MSNBC/FOX Its all ObamaVision. But he wouldnt lie to us, would he..
"Fundmentally transform America" Obama has said.
We are running out of TIME!
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04-26-2013, 12:06 PM
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I'm going to have to step in here for a bit guys. I've had to remove some posts from this thread because they were turning towards political commentary. Let's keep political commentary out of the thread please. It's possible to discuss the actions of the Government without turning to political commentary. Let's make sure we do this.
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04-26-2013, 12:10 PM
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I'm going to have to step in here for a bit guys. I've had to remove some posts from this thread because they were turning towards political commentary. Let's keep political commentary out of the thread please. It's possible to discuss the actions of the Government without turning to political commentary. Let's make sure we do this.
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I'm going to have to step in here for a bit guys. I've had to remove some posts from this thread because they were turning towards political commentary. Let's keep political commentary out of the thread please. It's possible to discuss the actions of the Government without turning to political commentary. Let's make sure we do this.
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So, we can not point out any facts about the governments actions at all then.. unless we say we love them, huh.
Neat.
04-26-2013, 12:21 PM
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That makes no sence at all, Ken.
So, we can not point out any facts about the governments actions at all then.. unless we say we love them, huh.
Neat.
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I'm going to have to step in here for a bit guys. I've had to remove some posts from this thread because they were turning towards political commentary. Let's keep political commentary out of the thread please. It's possible to discuss the actions of the Government without turning to political commentary. Let's make sure we do this.[/b]
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I'm going to have to step in here for a bit guys. I've had to remove some posts from this thread because they were turning towards political commentary. Let's keep political commentary out of the thread please. It's possible to discuss the actions of the Government without turning to political commentary. Let's make sure we do this.[/b]
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That makes no sence at all, Ken.
So, we can not point out any facts about the governments actions at all then.. unless we say we love them, huh.
Neat.
It's quite possible to discuss the actions of the government without making political commentary. If you can't see the difference between the two things then maybe you shouldn't enter into the discussion at hand.
There are many discussions on RCU that talk about what the government is going to do that aren't political in nature. The pending FAA actions on our hobby is a perfect example. This thread is another example with the exception of the posts that I have removed
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04-26-2013, 12:26 PM
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RE: Taxes on Internet sales
Keep in mind that this regulation (in it's current form) only applies to companies with out of state sales over 1 million per year. If anything, it's going to put companies like Tower or Horizon at a disadvantage over small online shops. It appears as though not only will they be required to collect and pay tax, they will also have to file tax returns in every state and keep track of state, county and city tax rates. These costs will simply be passed on to the dealers/customers.
04-26-2013, 12:42 PM
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I don't know how things work in other states, but I would think they are similar to Oklahoma where I live and run a business. Most states do have laws on the books that you are "responsible" for paying the tax on things that you buy outside of the state. I know I know I know, this sounds silly has all get out. Really?? You expect me to actually sit down and send in a check to my state tax commission on something I bought off of Amazon?? Really?? Well, in Oklahoma this is exactly true. Here they call it a "Use Tax". I've been lucky so far in that my business hasn't been audited, but I've had a friend that did get audited. And the Tax Man sat right there and went over his records of where things were purchased, and stuff that came from out of state he as asked to prove that he paid his "Use Tax" on it. When he couldn't prove it he wound up with fines from the OTC (Oklahoma Tax Commission) for close to $9,000. And he had to pay it or they were going to shut him down.
By the way, in Oklahoma the "Use Tax" applies to anything not already taxed at the time of the sale. Things like yard sales, auctions, and items sold between individuals are covered by this law in addition to things purchased out of state.
So what's my point here? The point is that most states have laws in place that are supposed to cover things like this. But many states are pushing for an Internet Sales Tax law because they are losing out on revenue because most people don't come forward and pay the tax on this stuff. So now that want the US Government to be the enforcer to collect this money.
I personally think it's a huge bad idea. First as a businessman I can tell you that the reporting on something like this is going to be a NIGHTMARE. Second, since they can't apply this to companies overseas it makes it unfair for us companies. Heck, even Canada and Mexico wouldn't have to pay these taxes. If this law passes does anybody want to make a small wager on how many "big companies" move their offices out of the US to Mexico or Canada?? All that boils down to is another reason that US Companies are moving out of the country, and that is BAD for business.
Ok, off the soapbox now!!! 
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04-26-2013, 01:02 PM
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I may be too old to see it in my lifetime but one day the public is gonna get tired of these vultures in government and revolt. These people are like a cancer that keeps eating away at you till there's nothing left. Seems like our public officials answer to every problem is more taxes. One day people are gonna get enough.
04-26-2013, 03:55 PM
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RE: Taxes on Internet sales
'Internet' sales taxes would give foreign vendors a huge advantage, since it would not apply to them.
A lower threshold and a higher percentage of the import tax would 'fix' that.
Reason for the excitement are some bigger stores who see a lot of 'their' business going away and towards online stores.
Not to get too much into politics here, but these huge stores have the right 'friends' and we might see some
new laws and customers will be 'convinced' to buy local again.
A lower threshold and a higher percentage of the import tax would 'fix' that.
Reason for the excitement are some bigger stores who see a lot of 'their' business going away and towards online stores.
Not to get too much into politics here, but these huge stores have the right 'friends' and we might see some
new laws and customers will be 'convinced' to buy local again.
04-26-2013, 06:12 PM
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I do think we will all have to pay tax on what we purchase at some point. However, I doubt that whoever we pay tax to will return it to the state we are from. It is just some thing that is very hard to regulate.
04-26-2013, 06:22 PM
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I personally would be happy to buy local and pay the tax. More convenient, quicker, and personal. Problem is of the several stores within relative driving distance don't carry anything for the hobby other than park fliers and small foamies. And on top of that they are not very customer friendly or I would order from them and pick-up. There is one about a 100 miles that is the Mac Daddy of stores and I do occassionally drive there but the time and gas makes it not very cost effective.
04-26-2013, 06:35 PM
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I'm going to have to step in here for a bit guys. I've had to remove some posts from this thread because they were turning towards political commentary. Let's keep political commentary out of the thread please. It's possible to discuss the actions of the Government without turning to political commentary. Let's make sure we do this.
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I'm going to have to step in here for a bit guys. I've had to remove some posts from this thread because they were turning towards political commentary. Let's keep political commentary out of the thread please. It's possible to discuss the actions of the Government without turning to political commentary. Let's make sure we do this.
Ken