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Old 08-21-2007, 11:52 PM
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Appearently it took an act of God to get this thread off the XPS controversy.
Nice one Richard!

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Old 08-22-2007, 05:38 PM
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That Basin Bum seems to look out for the hobby not just ONE Hy Richard
Old 08-22-2007, 07:12 PM
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Hey Basin guys, got a question for everyone. Actually 2 questions.

1. Do you think a "warbird" race would be of any interest?

2. Would you participate in a warbird race?

It was dicussed that maybe something of this sort could be added if there is enough interest.

A couple years ago we had one and it was a blast.

Just some input woould be nice on this matter.

THANKS, Billy

BTW.... I'm still eating the kryptonite..! YYYYUUUUMMMMMMMMIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE!.................T his ones for you Mike
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1) Not really.

2) No.
Old 08-22-2007, 09:04 PM
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Billy,
You need to ask the warbird guys if they would participate but I think I know what the answer would be. The spectators loved it last time and it doesn't have to take all day so the general public would still get field time. I say go for it if you can drum up the interest at the field.
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ORIGINAL: Philo

Hey Basin guys, got a question for everyone. Actually 2 questions.

1. Do you think a "warbird" race would be of any interest?

2. Would you participate in a warbird race?

It was dicussed that maybe something of this sort could be added if there is enough interest.

A couple years ago we had one and it was a blast.

Just some input woould be nice on this matter.

THANKS, Billy

BTW..... I'm still waiting to meet you BASINITE!!!! WWWHHHEEEERRRREEEEE AAARREEE YYYYOOOUUUUUU????
Richard Verano was contacted and there will be YS Sponsorship of a Warbird Race.


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Old 08-22-2007, 09:20 PM
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You can see overpowered "warbirds" flown, usually very well, like pylon racers any and every day of the week. If somebody was waving a flag out there, I would swear it was a race. Not that there is anything wrong with that. B.B. This time I had to be content with second place. An exquisite mosquito ran, er, flew away with the gold. I qualified in Hemet so third place also qualified, which is nice cause he is my longtime buddy. The manouver was a double horizontal snap roll with transition to inverted touchdown. A LOMECEWHACK if you will, and it scored a 7.5 even though it crossed over the aptly named DEAD line. But!!! If the crank wern't slightly bent I could fly it on friday. I work fast.
Old 08-22-2007, 11:55 PM
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ORIGINAL: Philo

Hey Basin guys, got a question for everyone. Actually 2 questions.

1. Do you think a "warbird" race would be of any interest?

2. Would you participate in a warbird race?

It was dicussed that maybe something of this sort could be added if there is enough interest.

A couple years ago we had one and it was a blast.

Just some input woould be nice on this matter.

THANKS, Billy

BTW..... I'm still waiting to meet you BASINITE!!!! WWWHHHEEEERRRREEEEE AAARREEE YYYYOOOUUUUUU????
Define the size of warbird were talking about here, and motor requirements.

I'd be interested.

Mike R
Old 08-23-2007, 12:07 AM
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I would say there could be classes for 40 and 60 size birds.

There could be a stock class and just like Reno, an unlimited class.

Last time we did this we had a flying start which was fun.
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Question: After seeing what happened when that guy turned on his radio and took out that Spitfire, I couldn't help but wonder why Spektrum, Futaba and JR didn't come up with the same system for 72 mhz. that is used for the 2.4 ghz. systems. Has anyone heard on why this avenue was not pursued? Granted, in this case, if a knucklehead with an old radio on 56 turns on, then you now have 2 radios on the same frequency.

Of course, by going to 2.4 ghz, there are no legacy issues with old rc systems on 2.4 ghz, but it is my understanding that newstrucks and other types of comm devices run on 2.4 ghz.

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DSSS (Direct Sequencing Spread Spectrum) is susceptible to narrow band interference. All current MHz radios use narrow band transmission. Any DSSS radio in the MHz range would be constantly hit by conventional systems. The closest you could come would be to use FHSS (Frequency Hopping Spread Spectrum) in the MHz range. I have no idea, but it wouldn't surprise me if there are FCC regs preventing the use of FHSS in the MHz range.

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Old 08-27-2007, 05:21 PM
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ORIGINAL: alanrw

Question: After seeing what happened when that guy turned on his radio and took out that Spitfire, I couldn't help but wonder why Spektrum, Futaba and JR didn't come up with the same system for 72 mhz. that is used for the 2.4 ghz. systems. Has anyone heard on why this avenue was not pursued? Granted, in this case, if a knucklehead with an old radio on 56 turns on, then you now have 2 radios on the same frequency.

Of course, by going to 2.4 ghz, there are no legacy issues with old rc systems on 2.4 ghz, but it is my understanding that newstrucks and other types of comm devices run on 2.4 ghz.

alan
Actually our news gathering friends are in the lower part of 2 Ghz, from 1.9 Ghz to 2.2 Ghz. They have wider, more defined microwave channels in bandwidths that will accomodate digitized video and audio. But you are quite correct in that there is a ton of unlicensed (what the FCC calls Part 15) devices out there that will compete with the SS radios for space. Luckily, there is not an abundance of homes in close proximity to the field, and most 2.4 stuff like phones, wireless routers, etc. have shorter range than your handheld Tx for the most part.
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Tomorrow I believe Jim Drew will be at the field doing some testing. His results will be annouced at the VF meeting. I'm not sure what time he is expected. I think I'll be there around 1. Anyone else going?

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Old 08-27-2007, 09:24 PM
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Jim will be there somewhere between 10:00AM to !2:00PM.
I will be there in the early afternoon.


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Old 08-27-2007, 09:30 PM
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I'll be out tomorrow.
Old 08-28-2007, 12:35 AM
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Sea ya there!~)

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i'll be there....
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I can't be there, but I look forward to hearing the results.

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Old 08-28-2007, 02:16 PM
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Yes, and would you Basin Dudes make an effort to publish the results here. It's important for everyone in the R/C community to know the results of his survey. Especially since XPS has now recommended that their system not be used within 5 miles of any airport, and is the only radio company making this statement.

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I guess there will be a nice discussion at tonight’s meeting.

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I can't believe no one has posted anything about the meeting tonight yet. I would think the meeting would be over by now.
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Perhaps some has seen this and few have not, enjoy the ride with this B29 and the flying man.

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Old 08-28-2007, 11:59 PM
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Hold your horses pllove, I just got back and I even left early.

First off I would like to personally thank Jim for coming out. It was the first time we had ever met, and I have to say he is a professional and a gentleman. He was at the field for most of the day and had some of his test equipment out running through out the day. Just shows how distorded the internet can make a discussion. There is no substitute for person on person meetings.

Anyway, enough of all the mushy stuff. I can only elaborate on what I heard from Jim himself.
First off, he has 6 full hours of data that before any conclusion is made he would like to analyize.
He did find some parts of the field to have high levels of noise, but nothing that he would call dangerously high. These areas were close to where some pilots have had problems before. Not much more to report as of now. Maybe Jim will chime in after he checks the data.
Since this isn't my speciallty I won't speculate on th data. After meeting Jim, I am sure that if there is anything we basinflyers need to be aware of he will communicate that to us.

Gonna go eat dinner now,
CYA, Billy

P.S. He also said the noise levels came and went at different times of the day. So it wasn't constant throughout the day.
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Hey Richard, Jetman has balls the size of church bells.
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Sure he does [sm=thumbs_up.gif], this is what determination means, the willingness to do what the other person will not perhaps try.

I am looking forward to hearing the data gathered today, I am sure it will be beneficial to all of us.

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