RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

Where should we post the contest submissions? Here?

Mario

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

that's the way I read it.....

Let's see what you got:D

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

All contest submissions should be directed to the Condor Hobbies Flying Machine Contest Forum

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10656030/tm.htm

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

ok I will have to repost


thanks for the clarification!

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

I had a Hots several years ago. It was a real nice flying airplane. Is your new kit a spin-off of a hots? Thanks Capt,n

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

<p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: auto 0in"><font size="3"><span style="font-family: Arial">I have heard many times the Flying Machine looks like the &ldquo;Hots&rdquo; a model <st1:place w:st="on">Midwest</st1:place> models produced in the 80&rsquo;s. Well in fact the Flying Machine was designed in 1983 prior to the &ldquo;Hots&rdquo; coming into existence. </span><o:p></o:p></font></p><p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: auto 0in"><span style="font-family: Arial"><font size="3">Dan B. Santich designed the &ldquo;Hots&rdquo; sometime in 1984 or thereafter and had the good fortune of getting <st1:place w:st="on">Midwest</st1:place> models to produce the kit. The only thing that both aircraft have in common is a similar profile outline. Other than that the &ldquo;Hots&rdquo; can not compete with the flight envelope and high speed aerobatic of the Flying Machine. </font></span><o:p></o:p></p>

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

The Hots has a lot more in common with a Dazzler/Uproar than a Flying Machine. The Hots and the Dazzler/Uproar are typical of sport aerobatic planes with enlarged control surfaces, and have very similar flying characteristics. But none of these planes are in the same performance class as the Flying Machine. The Flying Machine does everything better.......period.

Comparing a Hots to a Flying Machine is like comparing a Piper Cherokee to an Extra 300.......or a Sopwith Camel to a P-51 Mustang.......or a bottle rocket to the Space Shuttle. OK.....the last one might have been a stretch, but you get the idea.

I have never heard of anyone that has flown both a Hots and a Flying Machine prefer the Hots over the Flying Machine. So if you like a Hots/Dazzler/Uproar, then you will LOVE a Flying Machine.

Unfortunately, I can't think of any current RC design that can compete with a Flying Machine.......which is exactly why I'm excited to see the FM ARFs become a reality.

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

The FLYINGMACHINE is the best darn plane EVER! I am so excited about the release of the ARF FM. I would LOVE to have one in a GLASS fuse.
If this is the only plane that existed, I would be HAPPY

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

Welcome back Rich! It's good to have you back, I have not seen you in this thread for awhile [:@]

Rich and I flew our flying machines last Thursday (He flew his much better than I flew mine)[:'(] (Don't go there!)

but anyway......we were talking, and I would like to formally extend my offer of assistance (In the form of MONEY) to Condor.....for development of the Composite FM!

Condor060....what do Rich and I have to do to get our hands on a prototype "Composite" FM? $$$$:D

Rich and I would LOVE to "Beta Test" the Composite version and help you get it setup right.......I would throw a brand new Rossi .45 Speed into it with a Jet Tuned Pipe.....I would think if Rich and I both paid for our prototypes that would take the edge off development cost....etc....

we are VERY SERIOUS and I would love to give you my cell number via PM or should I call you?

Let's talk, as a composite Flying Machine would be awesome......and I do not think the FM composite would distract from the excitement of the conventional ARF....

I really think there is a place for this type of thing.....Quality Composite work, not Nitro Planes junk......and now the only lines available to the modeler are extremely low ended and then the best like a BVM product in terms of quality....hard to find any middle ground for one.....and second all the good ones are EDF......Zero speed prop composites out there (That I know of):D (Excluding Pylon Models of course)

Certainly none thay fly like the Flying Machine!

As you can tell from his handle....Rich and I would be great beta testers.......heck I could drive up to Don's so he could test fly my composite, as he is only a few hours north of me.......

Let me know what you think?

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

Tom is right, I am an FM NUT!!!! I have had this handle since 05' !!!! I am ready to drop coin on a new rossi speed also! Serious pilot here and avid FM fan! CONDOR you have my info! Get me on board I will test it 2 days a week, I have the time and alot of time off from work, thanks to 12hr shifts.......I am IN ALL THE WAY..A REBIRTH HAS BEGUN!!!!

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

I like it.....in addition to the best ARF of 2011 we are going to start a composite movement [X(]

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

Hey Fellas, I will take you guys up on some testing. I am leaving for IRCHA in the morning so you won't hear from me until next week. I will have some pictures of a couple of prototypes when I get home and will share them with you. Thank you guys for all of your support. We are working on a composite fuse and I will keep everyone up to date. We will need to run it through its paces and I have no problem sending a few out to see what we have. My plan is toproduce and very high quality FM and Don will be the final say on any design changes orideas we all come up with. If it passes the Don test I think we are safe.
I can be reached at 704-221-6550. My mail box is always full so its best if you guys text me first. I will return the text and call when I am available. Condor will always take your calls but we are still building the website. If you would like to get an idea of what the front page looks like you can go to http://condorhobbies.dev.bayshoresol...mps/home1.htmlto take a sneak peak. These things NEVER run on time and we are working very hard to get live so just bare with us while we get things rolling.
Talk to you later.
Fred

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

Fred, How true it is.....Computers are the root of all evil! [:@][:'(]

Great news! Can't wait to see what we got so far.....Rich and I are happy as clowns and ready to help!

I will keeep your number handy and text you next week....since I do not want to burden you since your going to a show, etc..... I am sure things will take awhile with the composite, etc...so no rush.

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

sounds like we have a good thing going here......:D I will have everyone at the field with nimble fingers wanting one of these..A dream come true would be to arrive at the field and just see nothing but FM'S buzzing around...and to know I help start it all (ALONG with TOM of course).....damn this is good!

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

WOW..........what a couple of Self Promoters you two are.....Wish I had thought of it~!!!!

It never occurred to me to use the same tactic on Condor, as I do on my wife...BEGGING!!!! LOL Lets give it a try...........

Dear Condor;

I have 40 plus years of Intense RC experience. I have extensive experience in everything from foamies to 30%'ers. I have been flying a Diamond Dust for 20 plus years, because I get off on the speed, not to mention, Jeff Gilbert is one of
my best Flying Buds!!!
I have been President of my local Flying Club for the last ten years, and training Officer in my club for the last 20 years....at least!@!@!

You will need Cold Weather Beta testers for the ARF's.....I live in Michigan, and I am shamefully asking (begging) for the job. You just never know how colder climates, including snow and ice may affect the airframe, and I fly all year long!!!!

Just let me know where to sign, and RC Maniac will be on the job!!!!

Thanking you in advance

RC Maniac

Hey Guys....How was that???:D:D:D

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

You're just jealous 'cause we got there first :D

Not bad, by the way......resume looks good......

Next I will strap on my knee pads [X(] 'cause I will go far for the composite FM............

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

Tom, i am already wearing a BIB!

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

YEAH BABY!!!!

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

BTW: Nice Bud Bottle Tuned Pipe you made there in your gallery :D

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

Thanks! They work great on my 55's, and I just recently got my hands on some 8oz Coke bottle to try!!:D:D:D

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

OK, Rossi .45 speed purchased today, now, I am hunting down a header and tuned pipe. I will break this motor in on an OLD scratch built FM that has MORE than proven herself!

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

Pink one is still my favorite

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

Why do I use the colors Black and yellow for my demo Flying Machine ?

Think you know the answer......... [:-]

Later,

Don Muddiman

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

I have always wondered about that. Black is a very hard color for me to see, and I have great working eyes!

The yellow is a great trim color for up close viewing...but in the air, 100+ mph, diving straight down
and twisting the FM into a knot??? FORGETABOUT IT!!!

:D:D

RE: Don Muddiman Flying Machine
 

I'm either dense or need a hint[:o]