Full Scale Lear 60 Bird Stike!!
12-16-2003, 08:42 AM
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RE: Full Scale Lear 60 Bird Stike!!
ever been around a JT15D that has sat around for a while before a bird ingestion was repaired. # 4 bearing housing.......peeee uuuuuuuuuu......
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12-16-2003, 01:15 PM
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RE: Full Scale Lear 60 Bird Stike!!
I heard of a KC-135 copilot who bent over just as they took a duck strike right through his side of the windshield; there was quacker residue all over his headrest! Talk about your good timing.
12-16-2003, 01:43 PM
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RE: Full Scale Lear 60 Bird Stike!!
holy cow.. how fast were they going when they hit the bird?? i watched a bird come in the window of a C-130 before. almost took out the navigator.. .. that pretty much sucked, it was a cold flight back to base...[:@][:'(] and seen what happens when you take one into the engine of a turbo prop.. heheheh bird soup. come out as little fireballs.. heehhehehehe... oh wait.. that wasnt the bird????? [X(][X(]
12-16-2003, 02:41 PM
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haha......the iraqis and shoot down are planes but a nice little bird can? hey i was flying this one plane with my itructor and a bird hit the cowl then there were bird blood stains on the cowl for months[:@]
12-16-2003, 04:11 PM
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Two of us were in a PA18 and hit a goose. It tore out a chunk of the leading edge about 1' across and 6" in which is a lot of area for this plane. Lucky for us, it missed the main spar and the tank crossbracing prevented the fabric from stripping. But it was one #10 pucker factor flight to the tarmac. Fortunately, the PIC was an ex-SPAD from driver during Korea so flying with 1/4 of the wing missing was not new to him. But it sure took a lot to keep the plane trimmed.
12-17-2003, 08:50 AM
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RE: Full Scale Lear 60 Bird Stike!!
LearjetMech,
Nope 20 years at Aviall based at Love Field. Seen a ton of stuff there, birds as FOD damage to turbines, bird strikes on antenna's, windshields, leading edges. Bird strikes on spinners, propellers (Dowty Rotols on RR Darts).
Dem birds are everywhere. We used to shoot em, poison them, shoot air cannons at them use decoys like Owls and hawks in the hangars and the city use bird measures to get them to fly someplace else.
Birds are a mess to a big airport.
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Nope 20 years at Aviall based at Love Field. Seen a ton of stuff there, birds as FOD damage to turbines, bird strikes on antenna's, windshields, leading edges. Bird strikes on spinners, propellers (Dowty Rotols on RR Darts).
Dem birds are everywhere. We used to shoot em, poison them, shoot air cannons at them use decoys like Owls and hawks in the hangars and the city use bird measures to get them to fly someplace else.
Birds are a mess to a big airport.
LOL
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12-17-2003, 05:47 PM
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RE: Full Scale Lear 60 Bird Stike!!
Hey GraupnerFan...
a 12 lb bird hitting an aircraft going at 150mph, is the same as dropping a 1,000 lb weight on an aircraft from 10 ft. I saw it on the discovery channel this morning about the engine integrity on jet planes when they have bird for breakfast.
a 12 lb bird hitting an aircraft going at 150mph, is the same as dropping a 1,000 lb weight on an aircraft from 10 ft. I saw it on the discovery channel this morning about the engine integrity on jet planes when they have bird for breakfast.
12-17-2003, 06:58 PM
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RE: Full Scale Lear 60 Bird Stike!!
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Aviall FBO has been gone for a while. It was Dallas Airmotive and now its part of somebody else now. Last I heard it was Signal Aviation (not Allied Signal but some company in VA. )
Come on out and fly .......550 grass field. We have big plans for a new 50 acre flying site the size of the old Northlake facility. Trophy Club parks department has 860 acres of land to use as parks. They want us to present a flying site to them......Praise God he really does exist...our prayers are answered. we said 600 foot run way sort of sheepishly they said......well how bout 750 and 100 wide PAVED !! .......geezzz we all bout fell over.
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Aviall FBO has been gone for a while. It was Dallas Airmotive and now its part of somebody else now. Last I heard it was Signal Aviation (not Allied Signal but some company in VA. )
Come on out and fly .......550 grass field. We have big plans for a new 50 acre flying site the size of the old Northlake facility. Trophy Club parks department has 860 acres of land to use as parks. They want us to present a flying site to them......Praise God he really does exist...our prayers are answered. we said 600 foot run way sort of sheepishly they said......well how bout 750 and 100 wide PAVED !! .......geezzz we all bout fell over.
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12-17-2003, 08:03 PM
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RE: Full Scale Lear 60 Bird Stike!!
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Hey GraupnerFan...
a 12 lb bird hitting an aircraft going at 150mph, is the same as dropping about a (+)or(-) 1,000 lb weight on an aircraft from 10 ft. I saw it on the discovery channel this morning about the engine integrity on jet planes when they have bird for breakfast.
I know it's not less than 1,000 lb, but I do believe it's more than that.
Hey GraupnerFan...
a 12 lb bird hitting an aircraft going at 150mph, is the same as dropping about a (+)or(-) 1,000 lb weight on an aircraft from 10 ft. I saw it on the discovery channel this morning about the engine integrity on jet planes when they have bird for breakfast.
I know it's not less than 1,000 lb, but I do believe it's more than that.
E=1/2 m*v^2, energy is 12/(2*32)*220^2=9018 ft-lb of energy. falling 10 feet, anything has a velocity of 25 ft/sec, so, (9018/25^2)*2*32=w, so it is a 923 lb weight.
I'll give that one to ya...
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12-17-2003, 10:56 PM
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i was watching it too. it was history channel i believe. modern marvels. and it did say that. i think either you made a boo boo in the math or it said a different number.
12-18-2003, 12:14 AM
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RE: Full Scale Lear 60 Bird Stike!!
Yeah.. that program came on again and it was on the History Channel ... they did say it was 1000 lb from 10 feet. I watched it up to that point just to make sure I said it right. well... 923lb... 1000lb that's still a pretty big paper weight hitting an aircraft.
12-18-2003, 10:06 PM
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ORIGINAL: cruzmissile
Yeah.. that program came on again and it was on the History Channel ... they did say it was 1000 lb from 10 feet. I watched it up to that point just to make sure I said it right. well... 923lb... 1000lb that's still a pretty big paper weight hitting an aircraft.
Yeah.. that program came on again and it was on the History Channel ... they did say it was 1000 lb from 10 feet. I watched it up to that point just to make sure I said it right. well... 923lb... 1000lb that's still a pretty big paper weight hitting an aircraft.
12-23-2003, 12:12 PM
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RE: Full Scale Lear 60 Bird Stike!!
I grew up near Reese AFB TX. There was an IP killed there some years ago by a 14 pound Canada goose through the windscreen of his T-37 Tweet. Student had enough presence of mind to land the plane without incident. What a mess.