What Digital Video Recording device do you use?
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Hey Guys I'm looking to simplify my DVR setup, and I'm curious as to what you are using. Ideally I'd like to record the video to a SD card which I can plug into my computer and work with it that way. Currently I'm using a digi-camcorder which then has to be captured on the computer. My digi camcorder will record to an SD card, but only as a camcorder not as a "VCR". There has to be an easier way. Any suggestions or how do you do it? I see DF uses some device with a screen that looks like a portable DVD player.
Another related questions: I'm using Pinnacle video editor, but haven't used the stabilization software yet. What format will the stabilization software work with?
Another related questions: I'm using Pinnacle video editor, but haven't used the stabilization software yet. What format will the stabilization software work with?
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l8braker,
I recently bought a Coby PMP7040 new on eBay for $175. It usually sells for $300+. It's got a 7" screen and a built-in 40GB hard drive. At 1GB/hr for high-quality video, there's a lot of space there. The unit seems pretty robust, and other than not dropping it I don't think there will be any special issues with the internal HD. It will record and output analog A/V, and when connected to the PC with USB it acts like a local disk drive for easy file manipulation. I like the possibility of using the large screen to allow several people to screen the data in the field. It will run 3.5 hrs on the LiPo battery. However, the image is 480x234 pixels, and so it is not really crisp, but I'd rather have that than a little 2 1/2" screen. You can also pull the video off the Coby and edit it on the PC, then load it back on the Coby as promotional material for potential customers you meet. (I'm being optimistic that the FAA will cooperate in the future). It's also got a decent set of stereo speakers built in. After a lot of research, it seemed the best bang for the buck.
BTW the EyeTop video goggles have been discontinued and you can now get them at clearance for $165 online.
Cheers,
Bruce
I recently bought a Coby PMP7040 new on eBay for $175. It usually sells for $300+. It's got a 7" screen and a built-in 40GB hard drive. At 1GB/hr for high-quality video, there's a lot of space there. The unit seems pretty robust, and other than not dropping it I don't think there will be any special issues with the internal HD. It will record and output analog A/V, and when connected to the PC with USB it acts like a local disk drive for easy file manipulation. I like the possibility of using the large screen to allow several people to screen the data in the field. It will run 3.5 hrs on the LiPo battery. However, the image is 480x234 pixels, and so it is not really crisp, but I'd rather have that than a little 2 1/2" screen. You can also pull the video off the Coby and edit it on the PC, then load it back on the Coby as promotional material for potential customers you meet. (I'm being optimistic that the FAA will cooperate in the future). It's also got a decent set of stereo speakers built in. After a lot of research, it seemed the best bang for the buck.
BTW the EyeTop video goggles have been discontinued and you can now get them at clearance for $165 online.
Cheers,
Bruce
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Oh yeah where can you get the glasses for $165? Got a link? (nevermind found them for $115 here: http://www.fotoconnection.com/viewit...RefTag=froogle)
I finally found a Micro DVR that has a 4" screen and SD car slot. I'm picking one of them up for $300. I also found the one DF uses which is a Sony Walkman VCR. They range from 500-1200 and record to 8mm tapes/sony memory stick. My video camera screen is only 1.5" and hard to see much. This way I'll have a nice compact unit with a 4" screen.
Next question about the Vdub stabilization software, what filter do I use? I noticed SAVS posted a split screen before and after shot that was amazing, and I just want to be able to do the same thing.
I finally found a Micro DVR that has a 4" screen and SD car slot. I'm picking one of them up for $300. I also found the one DF uses which is a Sony Walkman VCR. They range from 500-1200 and record to 8mm tapes/sony memory stick. My video camera screen is only 1.5" and hard to see much. This way I'll have a nice compact unit with a 4" screen.
Next question about the Vdub stabilization software, what filter do I use? I noticed SAVS posted a split screen before and after shot that was amazing, and I just want to be able to do the same thing.
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l8braker,
I recently bought a Coby PMP7040 new on eBay for $175. It usually sells for $300+.
l8braker,
I recently bought a Coby PMP7040 new on eBay for $175. It usually sells for $300+.
Cheers,
Rusty
PS- can't help with the sabilization SW questions, but I'll be interested to hear the answer. I'm sure I'll want to try it out as well.
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l8braker, Vdub does a great job but I think it's way too complicated because of too many steps and takes forever to render. I've used 2D3 Steadymove with Adobe Premiere 6.5 and gotten good results. No matter what you use, the image will be slightly degraded because of how these types of software work which is described and demonstrated in the following thread. If you use a DVR or any consumer device recording to an HD or memory stick, the results will be even worse because that video is being slightly compressed which degrades the image slightly and then further degraded by stabilization software. Recording to tape, straight to your PC's HD or to an uncompressed pro DVR like Firestore is the best way to get clean native video. [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4140876]Here[/link] is a post with my splitscreen and [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4094795/tm.htm]here[/link] is a thread about stabilization software.
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Wow 2D3 is $499, if Vdub does the same thing for free I'll give that a whirl first haha.
I hate to bother you even more Sky, but can you walk me through the Vdub steps?
I hate to bother you even more Sky, but can you walk me through the Vdub steps?
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I have no idea how to use Vdub because I've never used it but I've seen the steps and it takes forever to render. The download at DFI should have all the associated files and demos to show you how to use it.
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I figured it out.....not too hard, but there are about 3 critical steps. I guess you could make it happen in 2 steps, but then other steps are for cropping/resizing/compression. Once you download the files, there is a "manual" folder with all the instructions.
I'm working on a trial video from yesterday in my neighborhood, so I'll get it posted up tonight.
I'm working on a trial video from yesterday in my neighborhood, so I'll get it posted up tonight.
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Here is my first attempt at a VDub stabilized video:
http://www.vidilife.com/video_play_1...st_attempt.htm
The site I uploaded it to must have compressed it, as the quality is worse than what I uploaded.
http://www.vidilife.com/video_play_1...st_attempt.htm
The site I uploaded it to must have compressed it, as the quality is worse than what I uploaded.
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... (I'm being optimistic that the FAA will cooperate in the future). ...
... (I'm being optimistic that the FAA will cooperate in the future). ...
Hello,
I'm new here & still considering purchase of a DF SAVS. What did the FAA comment refer to?
Thanks,
-Marty
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Oh yeah where can you get the glasses for $165? Got a link? (nevermind found them for $115 here: http://www.fotoconnection.com/viewit...RefTag=froogle)
I finally found a Micro DVR that has a 4" screen and SD car slot. I'm picking one of them up for $300. I also found the one DF uses which is a Sony Walkman VCR. They range from 500-1200 and record to 8mm tapes/sony memory stick. My video camera screen is only 1.5" and hard to see much. This way I'll have a nice compact unit with a 4" screen.
Oh yeah where can you get the glasses for $165? Got a link? (nevermind found them for $115 here: http://www.fotoconnection.com/viewit...RefTag=froogle)
I finally found a Micro DVR that has a 4" screen and SD car slot. I'm picking one of them up for $300. I also found the one DF uses which is a Sony Walkman VCR. They range from 500-1200 and record to 8mm tapes/sony memory stick. My video camera screen is only 1.5" and hard to see much. This way I'll have a nice compact unit with a 4" screen.
By the way, has anyone tried a video camera with image stabilization (like the Sanyo VPC-C4). I'm not sure if the 6oz would be too heavy but if not, it would be interesting to see how well it would handle the DF jitter. Since it is probably being done before compression, it might work well.
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$115 is a great price but when I look at the reviews of that reseller, it makes me think twice about ordering. Maybe I'll give them a call and see if I can be assured of the product and price.
$115 is a great price but when I look at the reviews of that reseller, it makes me think twice about ordering. Maybe I'll give them a call and see if I can be assured of the product and price.
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/FotoConnection_1
Thanks for the heads up!
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Yeah guys I called them up to verify they had it in stock, and the guy says we do. Ok so then I'll place an order with you. His response "go ahead and place the order online we don't take order over the phone"????? That created enough suspicion to move on to the next guy. Every place I found that was under $200 was the same way or they didn't have it in stock. What they would do is list it as "in stock" but the manufacturer has it and then sends it to them, which they turn around and send to you(7-10 days later).
I just got frustrated and decided not to buy one right now.
I just got frustrated and decided not to buy one right now.
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RE: What Digital Video Recording device do you use?
[link=http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.asp?item=GLE1C1003]HERE[/link] is where I got my Eyetop Centra goggles. The price is $149 + shipping. I received them in 4 days. If you want a quick comparison of what's out there, check [link=http://www.google.com/products?q=eyetop+centra]HERE[/link].
You will notice this vendor is the only one given a Google Intant Checkout, meaning they have 4+ stars rating.
Good luck,
Bruce
You will notice this vendor is the only one given a Google Intant Checkout, meaning they have 4+ stars rating.
Good luck,
Bruce
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[link=http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.asp?item=GLE1C1003]HERE[/link] is where I got my Eyetop Centra goggles. The price is $149 + shipping. I received them in 4 days. If you want a quick comparison of what's out there, check [link=http://www.google.com/products?q=eyetop+centra]HERE[/link].
You will notice this vendor is the only one given a Google Intant Checkout, meaning they have 4+ stars rating.
You will notice this vendor is the only one given a Google Intant Checkout, meaning they have 4+ stars rating.
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/SavingLots
Clearly these are not top of the line dealers, but they must actually deliver products as promised some of the time, or they couldn't stay in business at all. I guess it's just a matter of whether it's worth the risk, for what you can save if you happen to be one of the ones who gets what he ordered.
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Hi Rusty,
You're right, I guess. The first time I pulled up the Google page, there was a notice at the bottom saying that only 4+ vendors got the "Google Checkout", but now when I sort by rating it's not so good. Also the previous verbage on the bottom right of the page is not there. Who knows? Well, I did have good luck with them, so maybe it's worth a shot...
- Bruce
You're right, I guess. The first time I pulled up the Google page, there was a notice at the bottom saying that only 4+ vendors got the "Google Checkout", but now when I sort by rating it's not so good. Also the previous verbage on the bottom right of the page is not there. Who knows? Well, I did have good luck with them, so maybe it's worth a shot...
- Bruce
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Hi Rusty,
You're right, I guess. The first time I pulled up the Google page, there was a notice at the bottom saying that only 4+ vendors got the "Google Checkout", but now when I sort by rating it's not so good. Also the previous verbage on the bottom right of the page is not there. Who knows? Well, I did have good luck with them, so maybe it's worth a shot...
- Bruce
Hi Rusty,
You're right, I guess. The first time I pulled up the Google page, there was a notice at the bottom saying that only 4+ vendors got the "Google Checkout", but now when I sort by rating it's not so good. Also the previous verbage on the bottom right of the page is not there. Who knows? Well, I did have good luck with them, so maybe it's worth a shot...
- Bruce
Glad to hear you had success with the order and that is good enough for me. Can you give us any feedback on how they operate?
Mike
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Hey Mike,
The first thing I did was to cut off the earplug wires flush since they were kind of cumbesome and I figured I would not be recording any audio from the DF. Even if it could, all you would hear is gear and prop noise anyway. The unit seems to work pretty well, considering the tiny screen. It's got mechanical focus and view angle in the goggles, and brightness, contrast, etc. set at the unit that clips on your belt. First thing I did was to drop it on the pavement good and hard just for quality control [X(]- still works fine. I've been testing it with video output from the Coby recorder, until my DF shows up next week. All you need is something to show you what the aerial camera is seeing. I'm real happy with it especially considering the original $500 price tag.
- Bruce
The first thing I did was to cut off the earplug wires flush since they were kind of cumbesome and I figured I would not be recording any audio from the DF. Even if it could, all you would hear is gear and prop noise anyway. The unit seems to work pretty well, considering the tiny screen. It's got mechanical focus and view angle in the goggles, and brightness, contrast, etc. set at the unit that clips on your belt. First thing I did was to drop it on the pavement good and hard just for quality control [X(]- still works fine. I've been testing it with video output from the Coby recorder, until my DF shows up next week. All you need is something to show you what the aerial camera is seeing. I'm real happy with it especially considering the original $500 price tag.
- Bruce
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Will these glasses fit over a regular pair of glasses?
Will these glasses fit over a regular pair of glasses?
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I figured it out.....not too hard, but there are about 3 critical steps. I guess you could make it happen in 2 steps, but then other steps are for cropping/resizing/compression. Once you download the files, there is a "manual" folder with all the instructions.
I'm working on a trial video from yesterday in my neighborhood, so I'll get it posted up tonight.
I figured it out.....not too hard, but there are about 3 critical steps. I guess you could make it happen in 2 steps, but then other steps are for cropping/resizing/compression. Once you download the files, there is a "manual" folder with all the instructions.
I'm working on a trial video from yesterday in my neighborhood, so I'll get it posted up tonight.
Could you please list the 3 critical steps needed to make V- Dub work correctly? Thanks
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Regarding the Eyetop, I just bought one of these from a seller on Ebay. The ones he's selling come with a portable DVD player, and carrying pack as well as the goggles. The buy it now price is currently $260, and he has 13 more at the moment. His feedback rating is 100 percent, and he's sold a bunch of these, so I feel pretty safe about it. I also received a message from him soon after the auction saying it would ship this morning.
To find this, search Ebay for "Eyetop" or item number 140110885256.
Cheers,
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To find this, search Ebay for "Eyetop" or item number 140110885256.
Cheers,
Rusty
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l8baker,
Could you please list the 3 critical steps needed to make V- Dub work correctly? Thanks
l8baker,
Could you please list the 3 critical steps needed to make V- Dub work correctly? Thanks
Also if you have the Vdub files look for the manual folder which explains it all in detail with screen shots. There are PDF's for each step. Personally I have no need to re-size the video and noticed no difference with the smoother.
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I use an Aiptek MPVR. It cost me a whopping $70 with shipping on eBay, takes up to a 2GB SD card, has 2.4" LCD display, external A/V plug and records at 640x480 in really good quality. The only bummer is that files are in asf format and have to converted to avi, for that I use Boilsoft ASF Converter.
I used to have the Sandisk V-Mate, but that turned out to be very cumbersome, since it doesn't have it's own display.
Hope this helps,
Vas
I used to have the Sandisk V-Mate, but that turned out to be very cumbersome, since it doesn't have it's own display.
Hope this helps,
Vas
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Hey Rusty,
I bought this exact setup from him about 3 months ago and the guy is great to deal with and straight up!
your transaction will be a good one.
And by the way...the I was very impressed with the quality of the product and the accessories.
Dave
I bought this exact setup from him about 3 months ago and the guy is great to deal with and straight up!
your transaction will be a good one.
And by the way...the I was very impressed with the quality of the product and the accessories.
Dave