im looking to buy a good durable 3D flight heli, thats dependable and you dont have to fix every other flight... any sugestions

There are a lot that fit your request as long as you do not crash them . A Honey Bee King 2 can be had for $160, a Belt CP is around $200 with a brushless motor and then the Blade 400 comes with a brushless and a kick ass radio for around $400. If you are really serious get the T-Rex which comes with nothing and you must buy everything for around $800+.

All these helis are durable until you hit something! Can you fly a fixed pitch copter?

If you are looking to do autorotations I would recommend a 600/50 sized heli. I have heard 400 size helis autorotate quicker which is harder for begginners. T-Rex 600 $1500+ w/o radio.

It must be said even from a elfite brainwashed lover like myself, that if you want the best then Trex is the way to go, but they are so expensive !

Ive got the Blade 400 and think value for money wise you cant go wrong, its a well built bird with the only radio you will ever need, and you can buy it for the price of the radio gear alone !

i was looking at the BLADE CP PRO but i heard that some of the part on it are rubbish

While it is definitely possible to learn to fly a Blade CP (I did), it's extremely difficult and you WILL crash! I would not recommend this heli to anyone...especially as a first CP heli.

As the others have said, get a larger one....at a bare minimum, I'd recommend the Blade 400. It has plastic parts and cheap servo's and gryo, but not bad for the price. If you want something that doesn't break all the time, the TREX 450 SE v2 is very nice with it's metal head, carbon fiber frame, metal tail, etc. You'll never have to upgrade it and it's an incredibly stable flying heli especially compared to the Blade CP!

Good luck!
Skarn

yes but i dont want to spend alot of money to get it because i know im going to crash it. im starting verry verry slowly... or by the books

If you're going to get a BladeCP forget it. Just go buy a Honey Bee CP2. A lot cheaper of the same heli, parts are screw on not glued on like Blade.

it's going to be hard to find a good 3D heli for your budget if you're looking at the blade cp... If you want something under $300 then the esky belt cp is going to be your best bet. there's also the black hawk 450. After that you're into the price of a blade 400.

i just baught a blade cp pro off ebay for 150...we will see what condition it is in buti got it and i was waching Rob and Big and they baught 12 blade cp2's( i think thats what they are called ) becauce they couldent fix them so they baught new ones.... lucky

I know it's hard to understand/believe right now, but those cheaper heli's will cost you MORE in the long run than if you get a good one with metal head, metal servo gears, etc. right up front. I've spend WELL over $500 by now on my Blade CP.

Get a simulator! They are pretty cheap to crash

Skarn

When I was learning on the CP Pro I easily spent more in spare parts than the helicopter was. Don't know the exact cost and don't want to know. I agree with Skarn that a simulator is a good trainer. I crashed numerous times and didn't have to spend a thing on parts.

I agree the sim is a great way tyo cost free crash, but its not the same as the real thing but a great learning tool.

Besides, i like crashing in a weird way......... when i strip it apart and rebuild i get a better understanding of its functions and find this one of the best learning tools of them all, if you dont understand how it works how are you going to master it ?

where and how much do sims. cost?

It depends. I think there is one for free. Then there are some that come with out a transmitter and some that come with transmitters. My quess is around $0-250. Some are also more realistic for helicopters and some that are close, but not the same thing as flying a real RC helicopter.

These are the sims in the magazine Radio Controlled Helicopters:
Aerofly Professional deluxe www.aerofly.com
Hanger 9 FSone www.fsone.com
Phoenix R/C Flight Simulator www.phoenixsim.com
Greatplanes Realflight www.realflight.com
MRC Reflex XTR www.reflex-sim.com

sweet thanks. i think one of my friends from school has one tho so ill see what version it is and ill ask if its good or not

Im using Clear view ($40). I found a free E-sky simulator with a USB transmitter, discarded the software and downloaded Clear view. It's not quite as nice as Hangar9's but there are downloadable models.

http://rcflightsim.com/index.html

I myself am looking for a nice lowish price 3d capable copter. I'm still weighing the cost vs college vs future free-time aspect though.

yeah me too