Carbon T-28
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AS3X not responding for new Carbon-Z T-28
Purchased a new T-28 from my LHS last weekend. I put it together with no problems in about 1hr. I followed the Binding procedures in the manual. I am using a Spektrum 9 Channel, Black Edition.
I have everything working except, no response from the AS3X when I test the surface area's as indicated to do in the manual. If I tip the plane side to side for Roll, Pitch or Yaw, I can hear the servos hi pitched sounds, but the Ailerons, Elevator and Rudder do no move at all to counter react.
I have the iPhone APP and the program cord.
It shows all three flight modes set by the factory to 100% / 0% / 195% for Roll, Pitch and Yaw.
My guess is either something is not set right, or the Gyros in the AS3X are not working.
Also, can someone tell me what their settings are in their AS3X AR636a that came in their T-28?
I have everything working except, no response from the AS3X when I test the surface area's as indicated to do in the manual. If I tip the plane side to side for Roll, Pitch or Yaw, I can hear the servos hi pitched sounds, but the Ailerons, Elevator and Rudder do no move at all to counter react.
I have the iPhone APP and the program cord.
It shows all three flight modes set by the factory to 100% / 0% / 195% for Roll, Pitch and Yaw.
My guess is either something is not set right, or the Gyros in the AS3X are not working.
Also, can someone tell me what their settings are in their AS3X AR636a that came in their T-28?
#153
My Feedback: (5)
Purchased a new T-28 from my LHS last weekend. I put it together with no problems in about 1hr. I followed the Binding procedures in the manual. I am using a Spektrum 9 Channel, Black Edition.
I have everything working except, no response from the AS3X when I test the surface area's as indicated to do in the manual. If I tip the plane side to side for Roll, Pitch or Yaw, I can hear the servos hi pitched sounds, but the Ailerons, Elevator and Rudder do no move at all to counter react.
I have the iPhone APP and the program cord.
It shows all three flight modes set by the factory to 100% / 0% / 195% for Roll, Pitch and Yaw.
My guess is either something is not set right, or the Gyros in the AS3X are not working.
Also, can someone tell me what their settings are in their AS3X AR636a that came in their T-28?
I have everything working except, no response from the AS3X when I test the surface area's as indicated to do in the manual. If I tip the plane side to side for Roll, Pitch or Yaw, I can hear the servos hi pitched sounds, but the Ailerons, Elevator and Rudder do no move at all to counter react.
I have the iPhone APP and the program cord.
It shows all three flight modes set by the factory to 100% / 0% / 195% for Roll, Pitch and Yaw.
My guess is either something is not set right, or the Gyros in the AS3X are not working.
Also, can someone tell me what their settings are in their AS3X AR636a that came in their T-28?
Remove the prop (it should always be removed when testing or working on the plane), raise and then lower the throttle and then pick it up and test the AS3X.
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Retract Options
Are there any aftermarket retracts available for the Z T-28 ?
The wing unit died after only 33 flights . If not, are there any modifications to the stock units to render them more dependable? To my suprise Horizion didnt offer much information or incentives to get me back in the air. But they did offer to mail me a new one for 39.99 plus shipping.
The wing unit died after only 33 flights . If not, are there any modifications to the stock units to render them more dependable? To my suprise Horizion didnt offer much information or incentives to get me back in the air. But they did offer to mail me a new one for 39.99 plus shipping.
#156
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Viper, I couldn't agree with you more. I'm on my third servo for nosegay. That sliding block is a joke and just a matter of time before servo burns out. Fortunaytely I have always been able to land the plane. just no control once on runway since servo burns out in flight. I may try the sleeve technique.
Thanks
Marc
PS,,, I too mostly fly jets but just wanted this for a nice change of pace. Does fly excellent.
Thanks
Marc
PS,,, I too mostly fly jets but just wanted this for a nice change of pace. Does fly excellent.
#157
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Viper, I couldn't agree with you more. I'm on my third servo for nosegay. That sliding block is a joke and just a matter of time before servo burns out. Fortunaytely I have always been able to land the plane. just no control once on runway since servo burns out in flight. I may try the sleeve technique.
Thanks
Marc
PS,,, I too mostly fly jets but just wanted this for a nice change of pace. Does fly excellent.
Thanks
Marc
PS,,, I too mostly fly jets but just wanted this for a nice change of pace. Does fly excellent.
#160
My Feedback: (10)
When the gear are retracted the brass slides back and forth during rudder operation. When the gear are extended the brass slides until the arm is perpendicular for nose wheel steering. Everything is stock mechanically except I stopped the cocking with the brass tubing and I changed the steering servo to a better servo. This won't prevent the retract from burning out on its own. I disabled the BEC and run a separate 4.8V NiMH battery to keep the voltage down and extend the life of the retracts.
#161
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I don't know if anyone else has but I sent a note to Horizon about the issue wit a picture of my( and yours , and many others I'm sure) solution
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...1&d=1509115523
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...1&d=1509115523
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Steering block sticking.
Hey guys
I took my t28 apart after 38 flights to look the nose gear over. I never had the sticky steering block issue to the point it ruined the servo but it didn't operate very smoothly. The problem is the rough lathe turned surface of the rod the block slides on. I'm a professional machinist so it's easy to feel with your finger nail. I sanded mine smooth and with a touch of grease it slides smoothly now while maintaining the engineered tolerances between the block and steering rod.
I was more surprised how the retract circuit board wiring is getting crushed by the weight of the plane and landing forces. There is no air space between the wires and the floor of the nose retract mount. The wires were pounded flat and this is probably the source of many failing retract. I made a pair of spacers to fit between the mount and the retract flange to prevent further crushing of the delicate wiring. Same issue with the main gear but the wires are up aginst foam instead of hard plastic.I carefully removed some foam where the wire impressions were.
I am designing and machining some items to install a much needed oleo strut on the nose gear, and will do the same for the mains when time allows.
After some testing the oleo struts may be available if any T28 owners are interested. Hope this info helps. Thanks
I took my t28 apart after 38 flights to look the nose gear over. I never had the sticky steering block issue to the point it ruined the servo but it didn't operate very smoothly. The problem is the rough lathe turned surface of the rod the block slides on. I'm a professional machinist so it's easy to feel with your finger nail. I sanded mine smooth and with a touch of grease it slides smoothly now while maintaining the engineered tolerances between the block and steering rod.
I was more surprised how the retract circuit board wiring is getting crushed by the weight of the plane and landing forces. There is no air space between the wires and the floor of the nose retract mount. The wires were pounded flat and this is probably the source of many failing retract. I made a pair of spacers to fit between the mount and the retract flange to prevent further crushing of the delicate wiring. Same issue with the main gear but the wires are up aginst foam instead of hard plastic.I carefully removed some foam where the wire impressions were.
I am designing and machining some items to install a much needed oleo strut on the nose gear, and will do the same for the mains when time allows.
After some testing the oleo struts may be available if any T28 owners are interested. Hope this info helps. Thanks
Last edited by BULLITTGT; 11-01-2017 at 08:01 AM.
#166
My Feedback: (1)
Went flying yesterday and after 3rd flight of the day the nose wheel servo stop working after somewhat hard landing. The nose gear retract is still working fine and I'm gonna try to steering slider mod. To get the steering servo out of the fuse do I need to just cut it out of the foam and glue the new one in? This is my first foam plane so this is new to me. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
#167
My Feedback: (9)
I would run a knife down the sides of it but you eventually have you yank it out. my steeling servo died on flight three, its way undersized (I would go with 50inoz min., prefer 100inoz). anyway I turned the dead servo all the way to one side then mounted the servo arm pointing straight forward canted to the side that's against the stop, unplugged the servo and have put 49 flights on that setup. if the wind is cross wind it will not turn down the runway in a taxy but once the ROG starts I can straighten it out.
Joe
Joe
#168
My Feedback: (1)
I did have to cut my original servo out when like many others had the servo die after several flights . I glued in a plywood servo plate and mounted with screws. Now if I have to replace , I just remove screws. Since my mod on the side arm, I haven't burned out any more servos. But after over 50 flights the nose gear retract gave up the ghost. Had to replace it.
Marc
Marc
#170
My Feedback: (5)
A flying buddy just bought a used one and so far he's lost the nose and one wing retract only after a few flights . The nose unit was replaced by the previous owner and I don't doubt the plane had a somewhat bumpy previous life. Still these units just seem to up and fail far to quick.
Get them on an alternate power source if you haven't done so already just to be safe.
#173
Guys,
About two months ago, I was able to acquire one used E-Flite Carbon-Z T-28 Trojan Monster! It came with a BURNED UP Nose Gear Retract. The Nose Wheel Steering servo still worked.
I see a few of you here has replaced the Nose Wheel Retract, replace the STOCK for STOCK nose wheel retract.
Let me tell you......................to me it was a BIG pain in the ASHE!
Okay, I am beat from a couple of hours with playing ROPE-A-DOPE with this Nose Wheel Retracts!
It seems like grease may have played a part in the BURNING of the Nose Wheel retract Circuit board "or" someone took-off or landed the model in WET GRASS!
You need to look at the pretty pictures I have provided to see what I had to do and some recommendations!
Thanks for your patience with me.
About two months ago, I was able to acquire one used E-Flite Carbon-Z T-28 Trojan Monster! It came with a BURNED UP Nose Gear Retract. The Nose Wheel Steering servo still worked.
I see a few of you here has replaced the Nose Wheel Retract, replace the STOCK for STOCK nose wheel retract.
Let me tell you......................to me it was a BIG pain in the ASHE!
Okay, I am beat from a couple of hours with playing ROPE-A-DOPE with this Nose Wheel Retracts!
It seems like grease may have played a part in the BURNING of the Nose Wheel retract Circuit board "or" someone took-off or landed the model in WET GRASS!
You need to look at the pretty pictures I have provided to see what I had to do and some recommendations!
Thanks for your patience with me.
Last edited by guapoman2000; 12-29-2018 at 03:58 AM.