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E-Flite AT-6 Texan 25 ARF

Old 03-07-2008, 08:19 AM
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Default E-Flite AT-6 Texan 25 ARF

E-flite raises the bar with their first Platinum Series ARF; the legendary [link=http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFL4500]AT-6[/link] “Texan” trainer used by the U.S., and its allies, from WWII through the late 1960s. The E-flite Platinum Series delivers superior, enhanced features and meticulous attention to detail...right out of the box! It features a level of scale detail that is exceptional for an ARF of this size. You get all this realism without having to spend weeks of building, covering and painting. Just about everything has been done for you before you even open the box. All that’s left to do is a few hours of final assembly and radio installation. The electric power system will keep this beautifully appointed warbird trainer clean and vibration-free...one reliable flight after another.

Key Features:

* 90% complete—just a few hours of assembly and you’re flying
* Lightweight construction
* Fully sheeted airframe to help maintain scale appearance
* Covered in genuine Hangar 9 UltraCote
* Retract- and flap-ready right from the box
* Optional Robart retractable landing gear is available separately
* Factory-painted fiberglass cowl and scale scoops
* Scale finish and markings
* Firewall designed to accept E-flite Power 25 BL Outrunner Motor
* Plug-in outboard wing panels for convenient transport and storage
* Easy-access magnetic battery hatch
* Extremely accurate scale outline worthy of the most demanding scale modelers
* Wing utilizes two Selig airfoils for optimum flight performance at all speeds

Specifications:
* Wing Span:54" (1370mm)
* Overall Length:39" (990mm)
* Wing Area:455 sq in (29.4 dm)
* Flying Weight:3.9 - 4.5 lbs (1.8 - 2.0 kg)
* Motor Size:Power 25
* Radio:6 channels w/7 micro servos
* Servos (7) JR Sport MC35's, (1) JR Sport RT88 for optional retracts
* Trim Scheme Colors:Ultracote Gray with red and yellow trim
* Prop Size:APC 12x8E
* Hardware Included:yes
* Speed Control :40 - 60 Amp
* Recommended Battery:11.1 V 4200 mAh 3-cell Li-po
* Scale:Stand off Scale
* Approx. Assembly Time:6 - 8 hours
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The E-flite Platinum Series takes things a step further for the real scale enthusiast by offering [link=http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/RelatedParts.aspx?ProdId=EFL4500&Category=Optional %20Accessories]Optional Accessories[/link] to increase the scale effect.

The Cockpit Kit includes an aft instrument hood, main fuselage rollover structure, two seat backs, and a floor. The Robart 2-1/2" U-250 Scale Wheels (ROB112) can be added to the E-flite Retract Set (EFL4515) to include a realistic scale hubcap that really brings the Texan to life.
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The AT-6 25e comes out of the box with all kinds of details that have been finished for you, including a factory-painted fiberglass cowl, air scoops, dummy radial engine, painted canopy and pilot, scale strut covers, scale trim scheme and much more. Even the Texan’s sheeted airframe compares favorably to the full-scale aircraft which helps maintain the model’s strict scale appearance and strong flight performance.

Scale airfoils were used to maintain the exact scale outline of the AT-6 Texan's tail surfaces to include counterbalances. Both the elevators and rudder are pre-hinged out of the box and ready for installation. One pilot is included with the kit along with cockpit decals. An additional pilot is available separately (EFLA150). Genuine Hangar 9® UltraCote® provides a durable, refined finish.

The scale split flaps are operational and pre-hinged right out of the box. Using a unique pin interlock system, they plug together and operate using only 2 servos. Optional E-flite retracts (EFL4515) are available that have been specially designed for the AT-6 25e. Making these mechanical retracts functional is as simple as installing a servo and connecting the pre-bent wire linkages.

The 50 page manual is loaded with photos, instructions, and excellent advice from people that have actually assembled the model.
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Hi Greg, nice report on the H-9 Texan. Yes, they have done a very nice job of replicating one of my favorite airplanes. I have owned 3 SNJ-6s and have over a 1,000 hours in them. Love the airplane. But, H-9 ,like so many others dropped the ball when it came time to design the landing gear. I was the outline judge for the Scale Masters for many years and the three parts of any aircraft that stands out the most during scale outline judging are the canaopy/cabin, cowl and prop shaft positioning and landing gear. When one goes to a full scale airshow such as Sun 'n Fun or AirVenture/Oshkosh the full size airplanes are everywhere and again the nose/cowling, canopy/cabin and landing gear are the first thing an aviation buff looks for. I also know that ARFs are all stand off scale and I also know that the landing gears are usually moved forward a bit to avoid nose overs etc., etc. but there has to be a better solution. I have also noticed that most ARFs sit too low on their gear, look at the pix you posted and the beautifuly AT-6/SNJ looks very awkward on its wheels. I also want to thank you for the hard work you do on behalf of scale modelers everywhere, some of your postings will find their way into modeling archives. Norm
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Hi Norm,

Thanks for sharing your knowledge on the Texan. I agree with what you are saying but also try to keep in mind the focus that E-flite must maintain to stay in business. To create such a beautiful ARF for only $165 is a real accomplishment. I am sure that certain changes had to be made to reduce cost and allow a wider scope of piloting skills to land it safely. These changes may deviate from a scale master's priority but they allow a greater audience to enjoy flying a piece of history.

From my point of view, since there is little for me to add to this assembly, I see the landing gear issue as something I can enjoy improving upon. The photos below are some scale-ups I have done on my Hangar 9 Corsair. The Robart struts really enhance the look and reduce landing bounce when compared to the skinny stock wire mains. As a modeler, I really enjoy modifying these type of ARFs that start with great potential for the masses and only need a few "extras" from people like us.

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A closer look at the fuselage reveals that many of the details have already been finished for the assembler. The .25-size Texan’s sheeted airframe and internal structure are similar to construction seen on larger glow-powered models. Both the elevators and rudder are pre-hinged out of the box and ready for installation. Easy access to the battery is provided by a hidden hatch on top of the fuselage. The hatch comes already finished and is secured with a wooden dowel up front and rare earth magnet in the back.

Transportability is significantly increased by plug-in horizontal stabilizer halves and outboard wing panels. The center wing section also removes from the fuselage with only two bolts for more convenience. The blind nuts are pre-installed for the motor, cowl, and center wing. All the guide tubes and control horns are pre-installed at the factory making the control surface installation a breeze.
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Well we had a maiden flight today. It was a little hairy!!! While I had the mixes set-up for the control surfaces I did not have the trims working correctly. The elevator and ailerons trim only worked on one surface so adding trim caused it to climb and turn. We reset all the tx setting and reset-up mixes. We just have to do the flaps and she is ready for a second flight. I lost one wheel cover on the landing which I could not find. It looked good in the air and it had lots of power. I don't remember what scorpion motor I have in it. Being so grey it was a little hard to see today because of the poor weather. It was trying to rain. Hopefully tomorrow goes better.
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Hi Bob,

Thanks for the report. We had very bad weather here in NY yesterday so I am happy to see that you could fly even further North.

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The power system for my AT-6 will be made from the following components.
[ul][*] 7 JR [link=http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=JRPS368BB]DS368BB[/link] Digital Micro Servos[*] 1 [link=http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=JRPS791]JRPS791[/link] HD Low Profile Retract Servo[*] ThunderPower 3s2p 4200mAh ([link=http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=THP42003S2PPL]THP42003S2PPL[/link]) LiPo Pack[*] Spektrum [link=http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SPMAR6200]AR6200[/link] 6-channel Receiver[*] E-flite [link=http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFLA1060]EFLA1060[/link] 60-Amp Pro SB Brushless ESC[*] E-flite [link=http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFLM4025A]Power 25[/link] Brushless Outrunner Motor[*] APC [link=http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=APC12080E]12x8[/link] e-prop
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The assembly starts by installing the metal support tube into one of the horizontal stabilizers. You need only to drill two 5/64" (2mm) holes and secure the stabs with 3mm x 10mm self-tapping screws to complete the assembly step.

All the control surfaces and horns are pre-installed for you. Notice that alignment of the stabilizer halves is automatic and the seems where they meet the fuselage are perfect.
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Hi Greg, thanks for the tips on the Corsair landing gear. I also have a Corsair ARF and am currently working on the gear. You have sure helped me once again, thanks Norm
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Hi Greg, It would not cost anymore if the off-shore ARF manufacturers could at least get the military colors right, this blue on the Corsair is all wrong. Correct colors are elementary, I would think. But, the ARFs are still worth it because of all the work that is done for you and you can always paint them the correct colors. Norm
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Hi Greg, here is an excellent taxi shot of a Corsair by Dave Stewart. Looks like he took it at an airshow in either Canada or New Zealand, but not sure. It shows all the undercarraige and gear door covers in great detail. This is the pix I am using to help me with my gear. Norm
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Hey Greg, I finished mine a while back and it looks as though the weather is turning for the better. I hope to maiden mine soon. Minor fit and finish issues and soft screws were cons, pros were the retracts drop right in and the model looks absolutely beautiful when done.
Here are some pics of my soon to maiden " Sixshooter" reno racer.
First time trying to print inkjet stickers, too foggy, i'll be trying again shortly. All other decals are hand cut from trim sheets.

God Bless,

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Norm,

Your photo did not attach properly. You can still click Edit on the post and then "Attach Files" on the bottom left to add it...if you wish.

Jay,

Thanks for the inspiring photos of your Sixshooter! I have decided to order the cockpit upgrade kit and new Robart scale wheels for mine. I'll do some research to find a good pair of Robart struts as well.

Good luck on your maiden!
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Thanks Greg! I'd love to hear about some robo struts. Some have said they couldn't find any, may the 4s be with you! I'll be getting the scale wheels soon.
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Hi Greg, sorry will try again, Norm
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Hi T-6 lovers, here is a take off shot showing the gear retract sequence. One of the best airplanes ever made, North American airframe, Hamilton Standard Prop and Pratt & Whitney engine, and it was always the boss, not the pilot. A military trained Texan pilot could step into any fighter made and fly it with no problems. Norm
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Holy Smokes Norm, that is great picture. That gets the blood flowing. Thank-you for Sharing.
Here's one of my favorites, it's a pic of the SNJ-5 I flew in last summer.

God Bless All!

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Hi, glad you enjoyed your flight. I used to give low level "Canyon Rides" on Sunday mornings, a lot of Hollywood folk showed up to get an eyeful of lowlevel desert running and other stupid immature things I did, but we all had fun. The owner of the pictured T-6 better put some pressure in his landing gear struts, they are way low. Minimum should be a hand's width. Norm

Oh, how I miss my SNJs.
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Since the control horns are already installed, you only need to thread the clevis onto the control rods, and slip them in place, to complete the tail linkage assembly. I did manage to strip the set screw on the 1/16" collar for the tailwheel so care must be taken on some of this "soft" metal hardware. I replaced the stock collar with a Dubro (137) 1/16" Dura-Collar that needed to be slightly drilled out.

The E-flite Power 25 motor mounted easily onto the firewall. An innovative design allows for mounting a variety of motors without modification. My only change here was to omit the #4 washers as I thought the 4-40 socket heads screws were a bit short.
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Hello Greg,

long time no see well ive been looking at this plane also and was wondering what other motors you might suggest for this plane ? i have a nice axi 2820/10 and 40 amp esc here, would that fit the bill ? i have been flying it (the axi) in a super sportster that ways about 3.5 lbs or so. thanks.



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p.s. also if i dont want to use the retracts or flaps (if possible) how many servos are needed ?
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Greg, in reading the assembly manual, I find the instructions for installing the flap servos unclear and hooking up the linkage. Could you devote a little time to this in your thread? Thanks, I appreciate it.
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I had a beautiful maiden today with my Texan. I had the slightest breeze in my face and with 10% flaps she was ready to lift off at 3/4 throttle so I pushed it all the way and climbed out. I found out after a few passes that you must use the rudder and coordinate your turns. It pitched up on me, I lost most of my airspeed, and the wings started to wag. I got the nose down and went back to full throttle. With that lesson under my belt the rest of the flight was extremely pleasurable[8D]! Roll rate on high is still scale and slow. Loops were made very large and graceful. Landing was non-eventful with 2 attempts. The first would have been fine but down field so I pushed the throttle forward again. I didn't notice any bad torque to the left although that's the way I went around. Second was perfect, full flaps and I held her 1-2 feet from the ground and reduced power and kept easing the elevator back. It settle in for a 3 point landing. Very little trim was needed, 2 clicks ailerons and quite a few on the rudder, I will check the rudder and try again with zero wind. When I was building this plane I found that the wing was warped badly. I had 0 degrees washout on one wing tip and 2 degrees positive on the other. I corrected it to 2 degrees washout on both tips.

FYI on the hardware, it's very soft. I replaced all of my collars and some of the screws. I went with new mounting hardware on the motor as well. I Epoxied my stabs to the plane and I also epoxied the wing together to make it one piece because the bolt holes didn't line up without a big gap in the wing panels.

The Power 25 did it's job well and pulled the plane along great but if I was flying off of grass I would want just a bit more. You will need to add lead to the nose of this plane so I would leave the lead off and bolt on the Power 32. Just My Opinion Though

God Bless All!

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Hi Mitch,

Yeah, I don't frequent the forums like I used to in the past. Just too busy at this point in my life. I do have some fun stuff coming up in the 2008 flying season so stay tuned.

You are spot on with your AXI 2820/10 motor. It's all about watts per pound and that motor will work nicely in the 500 watt class. E-flite also recommends a slightly higher power motor for extreme aerobatic performance like the Power 32.

The flaps use 2 servos and the retracts 1 servo. Without those options, you would only need 5 servos total.

MrMulligan,

You got it.

Jay,

Thanks for the flight report. What battery pack and prop are are you using?

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