critterhunter

I know threads like this have come and gone but didn't see any recent ones so figured I'd start one fresh. Check out what I hacked out tonight for some Aero Ace guts to transplant into. It's a mini boomer version of my big "So" series dual boomer (both pictures below). Notice the original AA next to the mini boomer for scale.

Little's guys wingspan is 15". Fuse and booms are 8" long. Bare fuse weight is at .4 ounces, but that's with toothpicks stuck in it to piece it together for a picture. It was a quick hack with a dull exacto knife so everything needs sanding to improve the looks.

Not sure yet where the motors will go. Hoping at trailing edge like the original AA but may slit the wing to clear the props at mid wing or mount them on pylons. Don't want to convert them to tractor setup but that would be good looking.

Wing will get some dihedral...not sure if I should curve an airfoil into it or leave the wing flat? For trim I'll probably put false flaps on the two rudders and elevator, or at least just one on the elevator slitted down the middle for left/right/up/down trimming ability. COG might be a problem even with the RX and lipo pulled as far forward on the fuse as the stock wire lengths will allow. That's why I may have to mount the motors more forward on the wing.

UAV Pilot

Here is my AA hydro. Used stock AA gear but had to go to slightly larger pager motors to get it to take off from the ground. Never tried it off water as I don't think in would have had near enough power to over come the water "sticktion".

Flew real nice though and could be flown easily in a small gym.

I made the battery inside adjustable on a slider to change the CG. This and adjusting the elevator trim would greatly effect the speed and how sharp it would turn.

critterhunter

That's a really nice build! So what's with the lack of AA builds being posted? Either the AA conversion craze has ended or everybody is posting them in a thread I don't know about. Come on people post some pictures.

Neurotex

That is nice UAV Pilot, very professional!

critterhunter

Now that's a fleet! Which one will fly the slowest and in a smaller room than the others? I may want to try a super slow build in the future. Also, that third from last picture...the one with the large back wing and small canard wing up front...Do you have a link to building that plane? I may consider it for a very fast 3200 k/v motor I just got that I want to put on a platform that can take full advantage of every little bit of speed the motor has to offer.

micro_builder

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dang, Neurotex, seeing all your planes together looks pretty darn nice. makes me want to actually start putting some color on mine (i've gotten SO lazy!). nice work.

nick

Neurotex

critterhunter, the slowest with the tightest turns would have to be
the white jet in pic #8, but really none of the planes where designed
for small indoors. Although that plane was easily flown around my
front yard with no problems.

The red & white plane with the small canard was fast but a menace
when it came to turning. Maybe the motors had to be closer together
or the tail fins shorter, I don't know, but before I could get it to fly the
way I wanted, the foam wings had become crunched so I scrapped it.
The fuse was then used to make the plane in pic #3. Which surprising
is now my best flyer.
Sorry but no plans exsist for it, they ended up being cut up when I
constructed the plane.

micro, finding some decal sheets at the hobby shop helps out. I've
learned now to at least get the plane flying good before painting her
up. Scrapping out a plane with $6 in decals on it is a waste.

BlindSpot

Omg, I love the red vtail flying wing (the one in middle center).

Do you have the plan or instruction how to make it?

How does it fly?

Neurotex

I had built a rubber powered FF Sig Mini Maxer years back and I modified
that wing to build the flying wing. The red boomerang wing is also a lengthened
scaled down Mini Maxer wing. If you want the Mini Maxer plans I can post them.
The pic shows one variation with a horizontal rear stab. The finished model
has the two cf rod plug in adjustable stabs.

Flying wings for me are very difficult to trim as this one proved to be
even with the rear stabs. It proved to be underpowered and was eventually
going to get the larger N20's until I started frying rx's. By the time I solved
that problem it ended up being shelved because I got started on something
else.
The plane did eventually lead me to search for a flying wing that was easy
to fly which led to a flying wing/canard type plane. This design proved very easy
to trim and flys as well as the jet designs. You can find these plans in the plans
section of the "aa tool box/futuristic planes/flig" [link=http://aatoolbox.no-ip.org/]aatoolbox[/link]
or try to download them from below.
Also I posted the plans for the jet in pic #8 which turned out to be a very
good flyer.
If you do plan on building a true flying wing they are a handfull and will
try your patience to the max!

BlindSpot

Thanks bro, these plans and drawings are really helpful.

I agree with you it can be frustrating to mod/create something and make sure it can fly and be controllable. But the satisfaction is priceless when it get to fly well and you are in total control of it.

Had same exp when I was modifying my xtwin classic trainer.

Sow the seed with patient and endurance and you will get to enjoy the fruit of happiness later.

Cheers

rchotrod

Not going to bore everyone with pics of my bland planes, besides they look pretty much just like the online versions.

1. Alley Cat--- as on the Poccoztoolbox site. A little wing tip dihedral helps it straighten from turns. I took a metal ruler and pressed it onto the wing tip to crease it and just gently folded the wing tip up. The wing tip is bent up just past the prop slot. Flys great with the aeroace jet gear, the black F22 looking one, built light out of 2mm white depron and colored with sharpies.

2. Dizzy Chick--- Also from the Piccoztoolbox site. Built with AA Bipe guts and 2mm white depron. Flies great and turns on a dime. Would be a good gym flier.

3. Dizzy Space-- http://www.modellbauvideos.de/index.php? Flies good at third power. Climbs out good above that. Also built with 2mm white depron and AA Bipe guts. Looks really neat in the air. Slower than you think but contollable. This one flew so well that I am going to try and build a larger full rc version.

I found a great way to assemble these little planes. Scrap book tape. It is double sided, as narrow as 1/8 inch and doesn't add much weight and is easier to use than glue. Also holds pretty good too. Planes have held up great with many run ins with trees, houses, trucks, you get the idea. After a little practice the tape is really easy to use. Even on the edge of the foam it works good. I found this tape at Hobby Lobby in the scrap book area. The tape is in a few different widths and even a combo pack with a few different widths together. This is good stuff.

See ya,
Rod

rchotrod

I barely made it home today to get pics before it got too dark. Like I said nothing fancy. But they all fly well.


Will try and pick up acouple more AA planes next time I get to Wally World. They had a pallet of the various Air Hogs aircraft and they were all 29.99 each.

See ya,
Rod

zoil leader

man if only they cam like that when you baught them [] lol

micro_builder

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that canard flyer looks pretty nice, any plans?

nick

rchotrod

That is the Dizzy Space. Plans are available on the website. It is a german site but the plans are there. just look for the aero ace section.

See ya,
Rod

BlindSpot

Hi guys, here's a video of my dizzy chick(with blue leds) in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSbfTshfEr0

Enjoy.

zoil leader

did you make the dizzy chick
?
and if you did how
?

rchotrod

Google picooztoolbox to get link and you will find the info on the Dizzy Chick. And other Aero Ace plans.

Dizzy Space is available on the site posted above. Site is german but look for the twin-x aeroace section.

See ya,
Rod

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