serious power

Hi Arch,
Joking aside, you're right about the 10 mins for the Marquette spinners.
I cured it by replacing the HS steel screws with stainless ones. They stay there with just a light tightening and do not get stiff/fused at all.
A little bling as well.

Brian

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Brian,

Great idea. I didn't mind them when they first came out and had normal "allen" head screws. You had to use the right wrench or you would strip them. That is a great idea. I will try to locate some as that will help immensely.

Arch

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I was able to get mine finished up over the weekend. Mine is the teal one. I wasn't a fan of the stock graphics, so my wife and I changed them. Didn't realize that the ones on the fuse were in the clear coat, or they put them on wet. I was able to get them off, but then had to sand the area. Turned out nice though I think. I put about 10 flights on it this weekend and am very happy. Need to do some ultra fine tuning still, but need a really calm evening. Sorry, for the extra picture.

Set up is:
Neu F3A
Castle ICE2 80HV
Falcon 20.5X14.5 lite
Ailerons: Futaba BLS-551's
Elevator: Futaba BLS-153's
Rudder: Futaba BLS 352
Tech Aero Dual Reguator

10#9oz with my heaviest packs.

Arch

Louiedajew1138

Looks stellar mate!

Lou

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Arch,

Nice job on the finish! I may have to send my plane back to you for completion.

How does it fly compared to the Wind?

Dave Harmon

Arch.....
It looks great!
The graphics change makes a significant improvement on an already pretty good looking airplane.
Good eye!

rcpattern

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Jeff,

The planes both fly awesome. The pink one, which is Chris Moon's has the Pletty in it, and the teal one, which is mine has the Neu in the nose. I'm still tweaking the teal, but I love the braking of the Neu setup, much better than the Pletty. I also really like the bottom end torque of the Neu, more so because I am used to it, than it being better. Both planes fly awesome and I'm getting more comfortable every day. The biggest difference I have noticed with the Nuance, as opposed to the Wind, is that the Nuance is much happier at slower speeds. The Wind can be flown slower, but it requires more work, whereas the Nuance is very happy slower. I have heard several comments regarding my presentation from people I respect, such as Dave Guerin and Tom Miller on how much better the presentation is with the Nuance. Both planes fly great, but the Nuance has forced me to fly a little slower and closer, which isn't a bad thing. More than anything though, I just wanted something different.

Arch

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Thanks Dave. My wife and I have had a vinyl cutter for years and I was already doing all of my own stuff. However, I finally sat down and really played with the settings to get it perfect and now that it is, it allows me to cut a lot more fonts of even smaller size and such, which really brings out some detail stuff. Fortunately, I had some really cool colors and such that matched. Attached is a picture that includes the new graphics on the pink one. I am very happy with how they turned out. I think the metallic pink, outlined with the silver really stands out.

Arch

Dave Harmon

Arch.....all I can say is WOW....I like the pink even more than the teal!
Now all I have to do is finish my pink Nuance and get after it.....I doubt it will look as good as yours though!
Super job....congrats.

patternflyer1

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Archie,

I am surprised you need more braking in the Nuance than the Pletty.. I am told mine has a very constant speed and that the downlines are very slow with the Plett. Funny though, I was just talking to Jon Carter about liking the throttle response of the Hacker inrunners better than the Pletty. It's more YS like. I may try a 14XL again if I can ever afford another Nuance.. Hard to beat the silly power I have with the Plett though. I really love this plane! It's made flying much more fun for me.


C

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Chris

Its not really the power, it is the brake setup. I think the Neu has a little smoother braking action. Not really more. I am also fairly certain that a lot of it has to do with having flown the Neu for a couple of years. The Pletty is awesome, but I am still learning it, whereas the Neu is something I am completely confortable with.

Arch

rcpattern

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Thanks Dave. We did nothing special, except change the graphics. Let me know if you want any cut. I have plenty of that metallic pink vinly. We can easily cut you anything you want.

Arch

mups53

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Ditto that whole statement Chris. Except the Hacker part. Mine has amazingly slow downlines and consistent speed. Gezz I love this plane!!!! No kiddin it's really special! Mike

rcpattern

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Part of my issue is that the pink one has Chris' YGE controller in it, and I don't have the programmer for it, so I haven't been able to play with the brake. When I had my Castle in it, I had it where I was happy, but I need to work on the YGE controller to get it to the same point. The planes both fly amazing though,

Arch

underdw

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You guys put me over the top last night with your recent comments!
I finally was able to push the "checkout" button!

Is there a list of included hardware?

Dan

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Dan,

It comes with the standard hardware. The only things I really used were the control horns, and all of the stuff they sent for the landing gear. The pushrods they include use a z-bend on them, which I didn't want to use. They would've probably been fine, but I didn't use them. The wheels are nice, and I used those. I added wing adjusters, and used the Gator R/C battery tray from Chris. It doesn't include anything to use for radio gear/ESC trays and such, so you'll need that as well. Very straight forward build, and there is a link to instructions earlier in this thread, as nothing comes with the kit, but you really don't need them.

Arch

Dave Harmon

Dan....I can underscore what Arch just said....
For linkage I used SEcraft aluminum servo arms, H9 Prolink pushrods and H9 4-40/2mm ball links.
Normally I dont use ball links on an airplane like this with a plastic servo arm.....the aluminum arms prevent arm twisting.
I also used the kit horns...worked very well.
I didn't use their hinges either.
I used Great Planes CA hinge. I had to re-cut the slots because they were a bit too tight but in the same location.
Make sure the original slot is on the center line.
The hatch latch was poorly done on my airplane and is unacceptable to me so I'll replace that too with a 'Best' latch.

underdw

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Thanks guys!

rcpattern

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Pair of Nuances with the new graphics done. My wife Tara with me.

Arch

Zi-Chun Lin

Some funny pic and vedio of my Nuance.
We has National selection for 2012 Asia Cup last weekend.
Here was the vedio of my Nuance flying in competition!!
Nuance was easy for F-13......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go4V7...1&feature=plcp

TonyF

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Here's some pics of my Nuance with the Contra Drive installed.

I cut the nose back to take out the right thrust and increase the spinner diameter to match the larger Contra diameter. It's not perfect but I think it looks OK.

TonyF

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Here's some pics of the installation.

I'm using a Neu motor, a Castle Ice 80HV, JR 9411HV servos on ailerons, JR 3711HV servos on elevators and a JR 8911HV on rudder. A Spektrum AR7610 RX and a TP 730 2S pack for power. No regulator.

The Contra is mounted using the front carbon plate that comes with the unit that has been shaped to fit the Nuance. I then used the grommets from a Budd mount and then the rear support that comes with the Contra. As mentioned, zero side thrust but I stayed with the up/down thrust built into the nose of the fuse.

TonyF

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I got 9 flights on it today. It's starting out very good. I'm not sure if I'll have to add the stab fences I put on the Onas as this is feeling very good so far. I have a lot of playing around to do, but I think it's going to be very good.

I have no idea what the actual incidence settings are, as I used the holes that were in the fuse for initial alignment and installed adjusters. The first few flights were mostly used to adjust the roll trim out with the adjusters. The stab is in where it was built. Right now there is very little mixing in it and since I'm still playing with CG and incidence there's no reason to say what I'm using now. The model is going straight up though so things are pretty close. I prefer a forward CG so I started with the balance just slightly behind the center of the wing tube. Most of my flights today were at that CG but later I did move it back. There was something about that CG I did not like but only more flights will get it right.

Overall, I'm very impressed. Can't wait to get things optimized to really see what she will do!

BTW, props used are not what I will be using later. I just threw them on for the first flights. I'm not even sure what ratio is in the unit now. Tonight I'm going to be putting the set-up I'm using in the Onas in to this model. I also need to baffle the motor as it's running a bit warmer then I like.

2Sunny

Awesome Flying Zi!

So is the guy in the picture trying to go for a ride

It is great to see F3A flyers from around the world coming to RCU. . . . Thanks for sharing!










Tony,

I'm definitely not the authority hear, but I do know there was some discussion at last weekends contest in VA about the CG having been way too aft for Arch's liking initially, and he ended up moving his batteries pretty far forward from their starting point. Anyways, your plane and setup look way cool, and I can't wait to hear more about your results!


Joe

TonyF

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Hi Joe, my packs have already been installed further forward. The info sheet on the model shows the packs behind the LG mount. Mine are over it. I just didn't think I would like the CG that far back.