KGSS28

Anyone have any expirence with this motor ?

mups53

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I looked at one last night. Nice and new in the box. I'm seriously considering putting into a company Episode. Chris thinks it would be a great option.
I'm interested in the comments too Kirk.
Mike

Jetdesign

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http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11..._1/key_/tm.htm

KGSS28

Mike are you thinking of going in through the front and mounting it to the firewall without the X mount ? I think you have done that with the 210 correct ?

mups53

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Hmm thru the front I think you have to lose the X mount and go thru the holes on the back. Gotta think that thru.

http://www.f3aunlimited.com/webstore...roducts_id=629

KGSS28

I thought you had done a Himax 210 like that in a Prolog where it came out through the nose . What other type mounting would you use. In my case for a Nuance ?

mups53

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Yes thru the nose on the Himax with a firewall mount. What other way could you do it? Without a rear support on a front mount it's probably going to fail. Been there done that and do not intent to repaet it.
The front mounts like the Pletty Advance and the Q-80's have the nice back support to stop the dreaded violent worrble. Mike

AmericanSpectre505

I have this motor in my VF3 Black Magic I converted from a YS 170 DZ. The A60-7S-V2 has plenty of power for both the P & F programs and the performance is close to the Q80, very close. You will have to use a firewall with this motor. Using the X-bracket mounted to installed mounting tabs will fail eventually, as all ready stated. The other problem (I experienced) you may experience the motor wanting to torqur the or twist the mounts.

Now that I have my fixed end-points set correctly the A6-S7 is turning a 20.5x 14 APC at 6340 RPM's, Max Amps are 67 Amps

I beleieve my Q80-14XS is very close (+),... 21x14 APC about the same. I will double check here in a moment and edit the post, if it's any different.

Both motors are great motors. The firewall template for the Prolog is posted in the build thread,..I understand, it fits all the planes Prolog, Nuance and Episode.

Bholsten

maustin

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bholsten,
What kind of throttle curve are you running? My motor has great top end power as yours but I'm looking for a better mid range. Haven't found it yet. Running a PT 21x13 prop.

Maustin

AmericanSpectre505

What Transmitter are you running? I use the 14MZ and I had to play with it to get the mid range from being soft. I to asked for some advise and got close, then tweaked to my liking. I had the same issue with my Q80 also,....

Bholsten

maustin

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I'm using the Airtronics 10 ch. There are 9 points in the curve program. I was using the fixed endpoints but actually got a better feel when I went to the run up method. I wonder if any other Airtronics flyers experienced this.

AmericanSpectre505

I flew with the Airtronics Stylus for years,..one if the best radios I've ever had. Well still have it. I wonder if they ever found a way to convert it to 2.4.

I am using the fixed end points. Let me check my radio settings.

Jetdesign

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A lot of us have the radio set to something like 50% power at 25% stick, maybe even higher then that. The throttle curves generally look incredibly steep at first/most of the way, then taper off flat near the top end.

I don't remember what my settings are at, but it's almost easier to not use all 9 points. 5 would be plenty until you get a good feel for the setup, and you can add more points later.

AmericanSpectre505

First: Fixed end points in my radio are as follows.
Limit low end travel : 62% / Max limit: 135%
High end travel :97% / Max limit 135%.

AFR (dual rates) Exponential 2 setting
rate a +101% /rate b +100.5
Expo: +40%

I remember from my stylus switching to a 9Z WC2 the positive was actually negative .

AmericanSpectre505

The AFR (dual rate) expo is my curve. This is what something new I to tried and liked. I took my point curve out.

glennbobz

Hi Guys,

Just getting into pattern flying and decided to buy a second hand Integral as a next step up from my 90 size Helios.

This model was set up with a 175Cdi which I didn't want to use, so I was thinking of using this motor with a CC HV80 controller, not sure on prop.

Will this be a adequate set up for my first 2m plane?

Glenn

maustin

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I've thought of this but it seemed pretty extreme but maybe not. My hesitation on trying was what goes up fast will come down fast and be hard to control for smooth flight. Maybe I'll setup this as a seperate curve on a open mode switch for testing. Right now I fly in cruise mode at 3/4 throttle. If you can post your throttle curve % when you get a chance I sure would appreciate.
Thanks !!
maustin

Jetdesign

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Some good info here: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10...m.htm#10751065
There is a link to another thread. DaveL is a fantastic pilot and I greatly value his input. CMoulder has a 9pt throttle curve in there which I assume is from the SD10G.

KGSS28

Lots of good info. One last question before I click add to cart, Will it work with the OS -ESC ?

jbudd

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I've had one of these in my new(er) Gaudius for about 15 flights, I had a Pletty 30-10 Evo in it previously, and I'm quite happy with the A60. I'm running a Falcon 21x14 prop and it has very nearly the same power as the Pletty (which is saying a lot). It's an oz or so heavier than the Pletty but it's also only 40% of the cost so that seems like a pretty fair trade-off. It actually compares very favorably to the HiMax FAI motor in performance (I have one of those in my other, older Gaudius) and the A60 is still ~$80 cheaper than the HiMax (it's also an ounce or so lighter). The only downsides are that it's a bit longer in dimension that either the Pletty or the HiMax so they're not totally plug-n-play interchangable, and also it seems to run somewhat warmer than either of them. I've been told by the guys in Phoenix that they do run hot (what doesn't in Phoenix in the summer?) but that it seems to hold up well in spite of the temperature. I'm giving some thought to machining some cooling holes in the front housing as there's no way for airflow to get into the motor case from the front, but that's only because it's extremely hot here in the High Desert in the summer as well, and I tend to be a bit anal about such things. I suspect that it wouldn't be much of an issue in a more "normal" (non-desert) climate.

The motor starts and runs very smoothly, it's very quiet, and it appears to be the usual, very high quality that is typical of the Hacker motors. As far as mounting it, it's a direct bolt on to my wide footprint, gold colored, soft mount (aft mounted on the motor, attached to a firewall) which makes changing motors without affecting the motor thrust adjustments easy.

I think the A60 7S V2 is a great value and well worth the price (about $215 at F3A-U if I remember correctly). Unless you're trying to fly the F3A Unknowns with it on a 12+ lb airframe, I'm sure you'd be very happy with the performance of the motor in most any 2M plane. Chip's flown my Gaudius with it, I'm sure he can comment on it also, but he made no mention of it lacking power.

As always, YMMV!

Thx, Jerry

maustin

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Thanks Joe, I checked the info on the link and copied that curve to try. Looks much different than anything I've tried so I'll let you know the results tomorrow.

69 roadrunner

I have heard they are having concerns with the CC speed controller with this motor any help? Thanks Steve

KGSS28

Yes there are issues with Castle . They just don't like the 28 pole motors . The same is true for the OS ESC . I recommend the Jeti Spin 99 , I have it in a Nuance with the Hacker A-60 with over 200 flights to date and no issues. Can't go wrong with this combination.

Kirk

69 roadrunner

Thanks for the info don't won't to waste what little money I have to spend and get something that won't work