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Old 11-05-2015, 02:09 PM
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Thanks guys. I guess it's just big rich toys for big rich boys.
Old 11-05-2015, 02:26 PM
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Hi,

Agree with you 100% OXAI are far too expensive for what they are and yes they don't fly any better ........I have one and comparing it to my own build XIGRIS I can't see where the price difference of $ 4000 comes from.

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Old 11-05-2015, 10:20 PM
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Oxai planes are for those who seek perfection and have the resources to make it happen. Much like a Chevy versus a Mercedes.
The Caelus has proven that we can have a great plane for a really decent price. Thanks to TopRCModels.
They are fast turning heads with some beautifully produced models for an attainable price.
Mike Mueller
Old 11-06-2015, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mups53
Oxai planes are for those who seek perfection and have the resources to make it happen. Much like a Chevy versus a Mercedes.
The Caelus has proven that we can have a great plane for a really decent price. Thanks to TopRCModels.
They are fast turning heads with some beautifully produced models for an attainable price.
Mike Mueller
I hear what your saying Mike. The Caelus is a good choice for us budget minded modelers. The orange plane is a Corvette from back in the day with an OS 61. The other pic is a Focus Sport with a Saito 125. The new style pattern planes are just simple bad ass looking and I'd bet they fly much better as well.
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Old 11-06-2015, 06:26 AM
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Nice planes Zippy. The Focus sport is a plane I always thought highly of. I think it feel into the category of forgotten planes too quickly.
FWIW The Caelus is proving to be a good choice for many fliers not just budget minded.
There's no compromise in how it performs. I consider mine one of the best planes I've ever flown. I just love it. It just needed some trimming and it's been solid ever since.
We have let many top fliers test the plane and had nothing but praise for it's aerobatic prowess.
Mike
Old 11-06-2015, 06:30 AM
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Default Warbirds are now in stock

Many of you know that TopRCModel has a new line of Warbirds that we import.
On many of the orders I've shipped out I've included a flier on the 3 models.
They are the 81" Spitfire:
The 93" Zero and the 89" P-51D.
All are composite and sold thru our sister company Gator-RC.com
You can take a look at the TopRCModel lineup at this site:
http://toprcmodel.com/
Here are our listings:
http://www.gator-rc.com/airplanes/warbird-rc-planes
The container arrives today.
Thanks for all your support.
Mike Mueller
Old 11-06-2015, 08:42 AM
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Nice Focus...nice hat.
Old 11-06-2015, 03:36 PM
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Here is a link to the manual. The download is at the bottom of the page.

http://toprcmodel.b.28.com.cn/product/show-47.html
Old 11-15-2015, 05:22 PM
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I got maybe 7 or 8 flights on the Caelus today. Still moving the CG back. Now have it at the back of the canopy latch buttons. Rolling maneuvers much better, but still have a slight pull to the canopy on KE flight on right rudder, almost none on left. No loss of tracking/heading stability. Still carrying a touch of up trim on elevator. Looks like 3 things can get me to the finish line on this: Raise the wing incidence to maybe .9 degrees...at .7 now or keep moving the CG aft or the last method I don't know about...dropping both ailerons a bit. What worked for you?...TIA


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.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4zyjLyBp64...Mike?...

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Old 12-07-2015, 09:08 AM
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Guys the new shipment of the Caelus V2 Lite's are scheduled to leave the factory in 3 weeks.
That puts us at a February 1st date for shipping to customers.
I'll be opening up sales in the way of taking a $550 50% deposit on the limited amount we are getting. Normally we ship via container along with the Warbirds.
On this shipment it will be via a smaller pallet on a container share bases.
http://www.f3aunlimited.com/50-depos...e-feb-1st-2016
If interested this is the link to the pre sale deposit.
Thanks, Mike Mueller
800 591 2875
Old 01-16-2016, 05:22 PM
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Just pre-ordered the Caelus V2 Lite. Haven't had a Pattern plane in quite a few years. This should get the juices flowing again. Also bought the Himax 6330-210 motor for the business end. I bugged Mike a lot about this plane and he has answered all my question. Great guy to work with. Here is another plane from a few years back running an OS 120 AX. Just can't get over how great Pattern planes look now a days.
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Old 01-30-2016, 08:18 PM
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Ok...a couple of questions for those that have some flight time on their Caelus: Flying the Intermediate schedule, I am coming down with 15-20% left in my Zippy compact 5,000 packs. (New packs and old, same performance). Vertical performance in 15-20 mph wind is marginal. Running a Hacker 28 pole motor, pulling 77 amps, (around 2,800 watts logged on a Castle HV80esc.) 22X12 PT carbon prop. Prior to this I ran a Jeti esc. Same marginal vertical performance. What set-up are you running that gives good performance and flight times? Are you running 5,000 ma. packs?.If running a 28 pole motor like my Hacker, what timing did you find was the best for flight time and performance?. Hacker wants 25*, but the Castle only allows 20* max. Flew today with 10*.
For comparison, my Vanquish with an old 14 pole Hi-max motor, same kv and prop, has much better performance and flight time. Does the Caelus have that much more drag that hurts performance?
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Originally Posted by big_G
Ok...a couple of questions for those that have some flight time on their Caelus: Flying the Intermediate schedule, I am coming down with 15-20% left in my Zippy compact 5,000 packs. (New packs and old, same performance). Vertical performance in 15-20 mph wind is marginal. Running a Hacker 28 pole motor, pulling 77 amps, (around 2,800 watts logged on a Castle HV80esc.) 22X12 PT carbon prop. Prior to this I ran a Jeti esc. Same marginal vertical performance. What set-up are you running that gives good performance and flight times? Are you running 5,000 ma. packs?.If running a 28 pole motor like my Hacker, what timing did you find was the best for flight time and performance?. Hacker wants 25*, but the Castle only allows 20* max. Flew today with 10*.
For comparison, my Vanquish with an old 14 pole Hi-max motor, same kv and prop, has much better performance and flight time. Does the Caelus have that much more drag that hurts performance?
You probably will have to slow down or use a smaller prop to unload the motor if you are going to fly at the same speed.
I am flying an Essence which is a larger airplane and have the same prop.(22x12 PT) It flys very well and the uplines are not fast but steady and constant speed.
I am using a Plettenberg Advance motor and Futaba MC9100A ESC. (OS 1100HV clone) This motor likes 15 degrees of timing which is less than I had originally. I ran the motor on the ground advancing the throttle slowly through medium throttle and there was some slight knocking so I reduced the timing until it stopped making that noise.
Two of us in the Tulsa area use the same setup and airplane and we are well satisfied with it using 5000mah Power Unlimited (F3A/U) packs. I fly Masters and the other guy flys FAI. We land with between 22 to 30% left in the battery.
The Vanquish is a completely different airplane and I don't think that is a good comparison with the Caelus.
I cannot tell a difference in performance due to the timing change but previously I had noticed some noise in the air under certain conditions.....doesn't do that anymore.
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I have the Himax 210 20 pole with a castle HV80 falcon 21 -14, unlimited vertical, I have the end points cut way down because it has to much power
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I would use a smaller prop to see if performance gets better
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While I'm waiting for the Caelus V2 Lite to come in I've been looking at threads about the braking issues with the Himax 6330-210 and Castle 80HV. This is the motor and ESC I have waiting to go into my Caelus. Are there still issues with this pair up and can someone share their ESC settings and prop size that works without issue. Thanks guys.
Old 01-31-2016, 04:56 AM
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I haven't had any issues with my set up. The settings I use is what the instructions to motor recommends. Falcon 21-14 gives me all the performance I need.
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Originally Posted by jetmech43
I haven't had any issues with my set up. The settings I use is what the instructions to motor recommends. Falcon 21-14 gives me all the performance I need.
Thanks for the info. 21-14 original or V2? What firmware version are you running?
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Its the heaver falcon, the latest 4.22, I haven't checked in awhile to see of there is another firm ware update
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30 % brake, any more than that then you get that squeal. Castle's are not known for their braking power, but they are good a reliable, of the 5 years that I have switched to electric castle are all I used, some people love then some hate them. Me I love them
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Originally Posted by Zippi
Thanks for the info. 21-14 original or V2? What firmware version are you running?
Thanks. Haven't seen anyone running the Poor Man's Contra (3 blade). I assume it will draw a few more amps so will it make it through the sequence? Anyone care to chime in that's running a 3 blade?

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Originally Posted by Zippi
Thanks. Haven't seen anyone running the Poor Man's Contra (3 blade). I assume it will draw a few more amps so will it make it through the sequence? Anyone care to chime in that's running a 3 blade?
I have used the Mejzlik 3 blade 20 x 13 quite a bit on a Nuance and Essence and I really like it's tractor like performance and good braking.
I have used the Falcon 3 blade 20 x 12.5 too but the blade profile is quite a bit thinner in chord than the Mejlic.
I prefer the performance of the Mejzlik.
There is no problem with battery power or getting through the sequence with either of these props. As I said above....with 25 to 30% of battery remaining.
Of course if you just fly around not doing the sequence....it is easy to overfly the battery using almost any prop.

If the OP does not like the PT 22 x 12 he is really gonna hate any 3 blade.

As far as the Castle 80HV ESC in a Pattern application is concerned...my experience has been that.....I flew the first one for exactly 100 flights.
As mentioned...the braking was not adequate and at 30 or more braking it squealed or worse happened.
I had 3 of these....the first one was recalled...the second one failed when using 30 brake and I sold the third one NIB.
I changed to the OS 1100HV/Futaba MC9100A which are clone to each other available at RC Japan.
These units work great with no breaking issues or any other issues.
No dead spot just off of idle...no computer hassle to set up....I use 80 to 90 braking....these have made the ESC a non-issue.
Try either of these for Pattern and you'll never go back.
Old 02-01-2016, 10:11 AM
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22 x 12 is probably a little low on pitch and you will probably be happier with a 21 x 14. My favorite is the 21.5 x 13 but that is on a Neu which is a little stronger.

Lots of guys running that same motor and esc combo without issue.
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I have noticed some pics in different forums on different pattern planes where the paint is chipping where the canopy touches the fuse at the front. Is this a common problem with a FG fuse and if so what are you guys doing to prevent this.
Old 02-05-2016, 05:02 PM
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Zippy,
Try this tape from CKAero. http://www.ckaero.net/miscproducts.php
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