Any good light 5 cell 4500-4600 mAh F3A Lipo?
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Any good light 5 cell 4500-4600 mAh F3A Lipo?
Hi all,
My present 5 cell F3A Lipo that I have used only one season, in 2019, is getting bad voltage drops when I want power from them.
I tested them some weeks ago and when flying I get on all my 5 LiPo packs low voltage alarm on my telemetry when I add full power in vertical manouvres. I did not use the packs for 2020 season but the packs was storaged charged and stored in my garage rather cool.
I use 2x Hacker Eco-X 5S 4600 mAh F3A Competition and they are rather light, total about 960 gram for 10 cell pack.
Hacker do not have them anymore.
I found Roaring Top 5S 4500 mAh (about 465 gram for such 5 cell pack for total about 930 gram for 10 cell pack.
These:
https://roaringtop.eu/epages/69baf11...IS-25C-4500-5S
Problem is they do not have it in stock and they have not for quite some time. And they do not answer when I asked them if/when they will have it in stock.
My Galactika EP F3A model from 2017 is on the heavy side from factory so I can not really have that much heavier battery then I use.
I do not want to replace with lighter servos etc, since the Futaba servos I use are fine, I use an ESC I´m happy with and works fine (Master Mezon 130 with BEC). There is not really any cheap way to get this machine lighter so I need same weight Lipo I use and have used for many years. But I can not find it. About 960-970 gram total for 10 cell 4500-4600 mAh LiPo that works for F3A flying is what I want.
Hacker Eco-X 5S 4600 mAh F3A Competition I had bad experince with because I first had 5 packs (5 cell x 2) for just two years then they had no punch left, then bought in 2019 in june new 5 same packs but they failed all same summer with no punch left really. I heard it was bad batches made. It was rather expensive for me. Anyway if anyone knows of 5 cell 4500-4500 mAh that works for F3A use max 480 gram for a 5 cell pack I would like to know.
I have in model rather light accessories: very light wheels, Falcon carbon prop and Falcon vented carbon spinner and such. So on the model it is really not much to do to get it lighter unless I swap out servos and ESC to something lighter that I do not want to do since what I use works very nice since many years.
Thanks,
Bo
My present 5 cell F3A Lipo that I have used only one season, in 2019, is getting bad voltage drops when I want power from them.
I tested them some weeks ago and when flying I get on all my 5 LiPo packs low voltage alarm on my telemetry when I add full power in vertical manouvres. I did not use the packs for 2020 season but the packs was storaged charged and stored in my garage rather cool.
I use 2x Hacker Eco-X 5S 4600 mAh F3A Competition and they are rather light, total about 960 gram for 10 cell pack.
Hacker do not have them anymore.
I found Roaring Top 5S 4500 mAh (about 465 gram for such 5 cell pack for total about 930 gram for 10 cell pack.
These:
https://roaringtop.eu/epages/69baf11...IS-25C-4500-5S
Problem is they do not have it in stock and they have not for quite some time. And they do not answer when I asked them if/when they will have it in stock.
My Galactika EP F3A model from 2017 is on the heavy side from factory so I can not really have that much heavier battery then I use.
I do not want to replace with lighter servos etc, since the Futaba servos I use are fine, I use an ESC I´m happy with and works fine (Master Mezon 130 with BEC). There is not really any cheap way to get this machine lighter so I need same weight Lipo I use and have used for many years. But I can not find it. About 960-970 gram total for 10 cell 4500-4600 mAh LiPo that works for F3A flying is what I want.
Hacker Eco-X 5S 4600 mAh F3A Competition I had bad experince with because I first had 5 packs (5 cell x 2) for just two years then they had no punch left, then bought in 2019 in june new 5 same packs but they failed all same summer with no punch left really. I heard it was bad batches made. It was rather expensive for me. Anyway if anyone knows of 5 cell 4500-4500 mAh that works for F3A use max 480 gram for a 5 cell pack I would like to know.
I have in model rather light accessories: very light wheels, Falcon carbon prop and Falcon vented carbon spinner and such. So on the model it is really not much to do to get it lighter unless I swap out servos and ESC to something lighter that I do not want to do since what I use works very nice since many years.
Thanks,
Bo
Last edited by bem; 05-05-2021 at 07:35 AM.
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Hi Bo,
I have used Lipos from Joen in Denmark. The oldest pack is now 4 years old and have about 200 cycles and still working fine. (Have not used them this season because of no time for flying). A 4600 pack is about 480 gram and with shornting the cable you might reduce the weight with about 10 grams or more.
Here is a link to his shop: https://hobby4u.dk/shop/17-elektronik/283-5s-/
I have used Lipos from Joen in Denmark. The oldest pack is now 4 years old and have about 200 cycles and still working fine. (Have not used them this season because of no time for flying). A 4600 pack is about 480 gram and with shornting the cable you might reduce the weight with about 10 grams or more.
Here is a link to his shop: https://hobby4u.dk/shop/17-elektronik/283-5s-/
#3
Hello Bo,
F3alorenz has RED Power SLP
5S/4500 mAh with 490 gr. in the program. The come in weight relatively close to your requirement.
Red Power SLP
However, I can not make any statement about the quality of the batteries. If necessary, you can talk to Mr. Lorenz once.
Greetings
Gerhard
F3alorenz has RED Power SLP
5S/4500 mAh with 490 gr. in the program. The come in weight relatively close to your requirement.
Red Power SLP
However, I can not make any statement about the quality of the batteries. If necessary, you can talk to Mr. Lorenz once.
Greetings
Gerhard
#4
About RoaringTop batts:
I have some 5S 5050 mAh 25C batteries from 2019. They are just fine after two seasons.
Pair weight is 982 g with individual EC5 connectors and 110 mm leads. Some weight could be saved by optimizing leads & connectors.
Too bad these are not in stock either.
In general these special light weight batteries seem to be inferior to good old standard ones, like Hacker TopFuel Eco-X 5000 mAh 20C (575 g each).
I have some 5S 5050 mAh 25C batteries from 2019. They are just fine after two seasons.
Pair weight is 982 g with individual EC5 connectors and 110 mm leads. Some weight could be saved by optimizing leads & connectors.
Too bad these are not in stock either.
In general these special light weight batteries seem to be inferior to good old standard ones, like Hacker TopFuel Eco-X 5000 mAh 20C (575 g each).
Last edited by ini; 05-05-2021 at 10:35 AM. Reason: Weight corrected
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I think the penalty of using light weight 4600 packs is reduced life. I have Hacker TopFuel 4500 packs with 250 cycles that are still going well. These are regularly discharged to 15 to 20% and occasionally to 10%. However they weigh 530g. There are now 5200mah options that weigh 515-530g. While it is possible to land with 25 to 30% their life is probably less than 200 cycles. All things being equal it seems that battery weight is a better indicator for life than discharge depth or capacity.
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Hi Bo,
I have used Lipos from Joen in Denmark. The oldest pack is now 4 years old and have about 200 cycles and still working fine. (Have not used them this season because of no time for flying). A 4600 pack is about 480 gram and with shornting the cable you might reduce the weight with about 10 grams or more.
Here is a link to his shop: https://hobby4u.dk/shop/17-elektronik/283-5s-/
I have used Lipos from Joen in Denmark. The oldest pack is now 4 years old and have about 200 cycles and still working fine. (Have not used them this season because of no time for flying). A 4600 pack is about 480 gram and with shornting the cable you might reduce the weight with about 10 grams or more.
Here is a link to his shop: https://hobby4u.dk/shop/17-elektronik/283-5s-/
Unfortunately his company do not ship LiPo to my country. It was not possible to finish a buy.
Otherewise his 4600 mAh 5S Lipo would have been OK.
Regards, Bo
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Espen
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Bo
I contacted Joen in february and asked about the batteries and he did not say enything about not shipping to sweden. And i vrote the e-mails in swedish so I asume he know he needed to ship them here
I contacted Joen in february and asked about the batteries and he did not say enything about not shipping to sweden. And i vrote the e-mails in swedish so I asume he know he needed to ship them here