rjtw

Hi John,
What are you planning to use on ailerons? I am considering the Futaba S9551 although it might be a little overkill...
Rick

banez

Thanks! Few days ago they had some, but I waited too long and now there are none...

john agnew

Rick

I am using the Futaba S3152 digital, good value and works fine on this size of model, same on rudder.
John

Velco

What I find curious about this plane that on the Sebart site it is not listed as a pattern ship but as "regular"  50 class model. One more thing that has caught my eye is the wing area, 62dm2 for Wind and 45,8dm2 for Angel .

Is Wind 50 a true pattern ship? Hm ...

john agnew

Velco

Does it matter? I bet Sebart will sell a load of these to people who will never fly competition pattern just because it is a good looking great flying model. I just checked the wing against the Angel wing and it is only slightly bigger, the Wind is also heavier than the Angel 50.

John

Velco

Well if the data is correct it has a very similar wing surface area to Wind 110 which is 30%-50% more heavy. I have no doubt it flies good, just will probably be more sensitive in windy conditions. I look at it now more as an all around plane that can do everything but no doubt that Angel will be better in pure pattern and SU29 in freestyle. Well, only someone who has flown all 3 can really tell, this is just theory .

I do suffer from Sebarthitis and currently have 2 Sebart planes in my fleet .

Hans Meij

Facts are that it is scaled down from the pro and so it flies. Really loved it. Found that the relative high wingload makes you fly it at a high pace.
The wing is substantially smaller than the 110, the fuse is more close in size.

Velco

Hans thank you for this photo. I really do doubt that the data on sebart site regarding the wing area of Wind 50 is correct. Actually it gives 58dm2 for  Wind110 and 62dm2 for Wind 50.

Can you also make one more photo please to show the thickness of the wing?

rjtw

Inoticed the wing area figure on the website too, and think it's incorrect. If you look at the data in the PDF linked from the same page, the wing area is listed as a much more realistic 52 dm2.

Hans, what are you using for servos?

Rick

Hans Meij

Velco, these are the wings. 110 4,5cm thick, 50 4cm thick


Rick, I was using Futaba 9151 on ruder and aileron and Futaba 9601 on elevator.
These servo's were leftovers so no reason other than that to choose for these.
The standard size servo's are too high to fit nicely in the wing.

Used a BEC for the first time on 6s (Hacker Spin 66). On the 10th flight I lost control.
Expect the controller or BEC overheated. Wings survived and could be used for these photo's

The 110 I just bought as a replacement for the 50. Was very happy with the 50 and should have bought a second one but curiosity drew me to the 110.
We will see.

Hans Meij

This is how it looked when it still was in one piece.
Sprayed the cockpit for better visuality. The blue of the cockpit tends to disappear.
And I love TCans

Velco

Hans sorry for the loss and thank you again for the photos. The data on sebart site is definitively wrong.

btw I am hearing also on other forums people having overheating problem with small Jeti Spin and hacker Spin if the brake is turned on.

I was hoping to maiden my Wind 110 tomorrow but unfortunately just few minor things still left to do. Well, I will have to again enjoy my Ms Wind 50 .

will be interesting to hear your comments how Wind 50 and 110 compare.

cheers 

Hans Meij

Now this is a valuable remark. I first flew it with a Master basic 70. With the brake on the most soft setting the prop still stopped and braking was not effective. So I bought the Spin 66 and the brake was what I wanted. Had two flights and then I increased the brakesetting from 40 to 50. Next flight it failed.

stmdk

hey harris

did you try the 17x8 prop? i think it should slow you down in downlines...

john agnew

Hans

I see a Turnigy sticker on your Wind 50 are you running a Turnigy motor? if so which one and how was it, I have a Turnigy SK5065-380Kv / 85 amp Turnigy controller for mine, this setup is about 60grams / 2 ounces heavier than the recommended Hacker setup. I wanted to experiment with a cheap motor / ESC combo to see how long it lasts. $90 for the set shipped to UK.

John

Hans Meij

Hi John, that is the one. Fantastic motor. It runs a lot cooler than the Hacker and costs about nothing. I only wished HC spends some extra dollars (and be put on the price) to have the last windings tight. Sometimes I put some glue on them to avoid them ending up between rotor and stator.

john agnew

Hans

Excellent! Are you going to try the Turnigy in your new Wind 110?

John

Hans Meij

Hi John,
I have been in doubt for a long time in the selection of the motor. Turnigy (the 270 Kv version on 8s), a Hacker C50-..L on 8s or a Hacker C50-14XL on 10s with spin 99. I did choose for the last option, my spare drive-set for the Gaudius, my competition model.

john agnew

Hans

I fly my Wind 110 on 6S, I suspect it would not have enough power / duration for a current F3A schedule in windy conditions though it flies just fine in relatively calm air. I may give 8S a try at some stage

John

tclaridge

Harris-G: BEWARE THE JETI 77!!

I used one on my Wind 110e and lost it due to thermal out! This ESC does NOT intialize until you go to full throttle for a few seconds. Until then, HALF throttle is FULL THROTTLE. I burnt up a lot of planes and motors before I discovered this undocumented feature.

To solve this problem, I always go to full throttle for 4 seconds after TO. Then you are fine. I will never buy a JETI again.

Ryan Smith

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Hans,

How did you do that to the canopy? It looks like you sprayed silver behind the blue. I was thinking of getting one of these and that really looks nice.

Hans Meij

Hi Ryan, you guessed right. A little bit of silver and then anthracite gray over it from the inside.

john agnew

Hans

Looks great, copying that too!

John

Ryan Smith

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What brand of paint did you use, Hans?

rjtw

Hmmm, like that T-can too. Haven't tried one yet. How did you attach it, what incidence did you use, and did you notice any difference?
Thanks!
Rick