Had enough of Glow - need advice on conversion
 

Hi guys,

I have had my 2 meter Brio for quite a while now. I did the original build thread here
in the pattern forum. It has, or had until this afternoon, a 140Rx and carbon fiber pipe.
I stripped it all out and with fuel the weight was 4 pounds 6 oz.

The Brio I have is the Kevlar version. I have an extra Castle Creations HV85 in the shop
and was thinking a pair of 5s 4800 packs for a 10s setup. What Motor would you guys recommend?

I like the Scorpion Motor in my Heli and would dearly love to do A123's but the numbers just won't
work for the pattern plane. I currently fly the HV85 on 12s A123's in a 600 class Heli.

Thank you for the help.

RE: Had enough of Glow - need advice on conversion
 

I have done the same conversion. My Brio is the carbon deluxe kit and was always tail heavy. With the Rx it was always anemic and as a result it didn't get flown much.
First, I tried a Himaxx 6330-200 w/an APC 21x14. Good motor but not enough power. Switching to a Falcon 21x14 helped but the best has been a Pletty 30-09 w/the Falcon prop. GREAT power, good brakes and super reliable but very high amp draw motor. With my Rhino 4900 I can see over 4000w but the power is great and I have never liked the plane more. With my Zippy 15c 5000mah I can make weight but the power is less and it is pushing the batteries pretty hard. Although, they are holding up to the task.
Maybe you could do a 6330-210 w/ a Falcon 20.5x14.5 but that is speculation on my part. A friend has that set up in a Sickle and it works well but his plane is much lighter/cleaner than my Brio.
The HV85 is perfect and you will be able to switch to a smaller rx battery. I have a few 2s 500mah and swap every three or four flights.
You will need to switch landing gear to something taller. I have been using the ES e-gear but they never seem to last and I am running out of inventory. I have a set of the PT gear on order from F3A unlimited since they are about the same weight and appear to have no sweep. Hopefully, they will last.
The small canopy is a pain since my batteries wound up a few inches over where the stock firewall was. I had to trim the inside lip of the fuse after it started to crack from stuffing my hands all the way in there to change packs. I put a vertical piece of honeycomb under the floor from the existing firewall to the gear plate for reinforcement and then strapped batteries to the floor. The ESC lives on the under side with a little piece of depron to push some air over it. I kept the leads long on everything and plug the packs in from the back to avoid having to try to plug in a Deans that I can't see.
This plane may get converted to a Neu to get similiar power w/ less amp draw. I have another plane in the works w/a Neu and waiting to see how that goes but right now this is my favorite.
Having played with A123 for a few years in my Vanquish I am ready to sell all I have for the better power to weight of lipos.
Good luck,

RE: Had enough of Glow - need advice on conversion
 

I just found Dave's thread and he is running the Himax 6330-200. I am in the same club and he was
flying it today.... Sweet! I was looking around and saw the 6330-210 and was leaning in that direction.

When I built the plane I cut off the stock rudder and made a built up one so I may have a lighter tail.

Also the plane is set up with DEPS push rods and a single elevator servo so more tail weight savings.

RE: Had enough of Glow - need advice on conversion
 

Hi Kelly,

I started with the HiMax 200kv in my Mystic and recently changed to the new 210kv motor. A world of difference in power, a very, very, strong motor, you'll like it..

Todd Schmidt