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ted32776 08-05-2019 10:36 AM

2019 F3a WC results so far......
 
Results so far, courtesy of the Spanish team....
https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...66&oe=5DA4D329

ted32776 08-07-2019 03:24 AM

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ini 08-07-2019 11:28 AM

The last posting wasn't really a success.

ted32776 08-07-2019 01:21 PM

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ted32776 08-07-2019 03:21 PM

https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...e0&oe=5DA08715

ted32776 08-08-2019 04:50 AM

2019 F3a WC results so far......
 
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...b4695dddac.jpg

flywilly 08-09-2019 05:17 AM

Wow, the USA has 5 competitors and all 5 are it the top 13. I assume the Joseph Szczur is competing because he won as a junior at the last WC and has now 'aged out'. Which 3 US pilots will be used to determine the team championship?

ted32776 08-09-2019 10:03 AM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...2c914a9209.jpg

ted32776 08-09-2019 02:32 PM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...87e9f7bc22.jpg

ted32776 08-10-2019 04:14 AM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...2631d344ba.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...92848a8f13.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...2b797ab582.jpg

ted32776 08-10-2019 02:21 PM

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...2d8a81d1ea.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...b5ba1a57c6.jpg

MAVROS 08-11-2019 01:33 AM

Can someone explain how the team results are worked out?
It seems the more participants a country has the higher the placing regardless of individual placings......

ted32776 08-11-2019 04:31 AM

I can't give you a definitive answer but just offer you what I recall was in effect many years ago in FAI F3c heli comp. I believe the "team" is comprised of three main members and one alternate [who did not participate without a member dropping out]. The reigning World Champion was invited to return as an individual competitor but did not factor into the cumulative team score. I think it's somewhat similar in F3a but there may be variations since I believe there was an active fourth USA competitor but I do not think there is a situation of having an advantage from more team members. That would be unfair for sure.

serious power 08-11-2019 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by ted32776 (Post 12542579)

Hi,
Can somebody explain how those 'normalised prilim,, scores' , as brought into the semi's, were arrived at ??????????

Brian

ted32776 08-11-2019 07:41 AM

Ok, don't want to overstep here but this is the simple explanation of normalization of scores as I understand it...…. Normalizing the scores means the top score for the round becomes 1000 points, and the other competitors are indexed to that score. So if your normalized score is 940 on the round, this means that you’ve flown 94% as well as the top placing flyer in that round. The effort is always to maintain equal judging since at most contests, two pilots may not actually fly in front of the same judges in the same conditions [often due to dual flight lines].

serious power 08-11-2019 07:52 AM

They were nornalised to the top score per round in the past.
Now it is supposed to be to the average of the top 50% !!! As all the rounds were indeed done in Italy.

However those prelim's as brought into the semi's are not !!!!!
They if fact appear to have been normalised to the average of the top 4 !!???
If I'm correct this may have cost one or two US pilots and or some others a place in the final !!!
Brian

MAVROS 08-11-2019 03:51 PM

Clear as mad !!!!!!!

MAVROS 08-11-2019 03:52 PM

Sorry clear as mud!!!!!!

serious power 08-12-2019 11:15 AM

I have looked at the semi's a little further.
Please note that my figures are based on the already rounded published results as I do not have the raw data.
They are subject to possible errors as done manually and not all double checked or typo checked.
It appears the re-normalised prelim's as brought into the semi's were in fact normalised to the average of the top 4 pilot scores from the prelim's and not to the top 15 average !!???
See attached ;

serious power 08-12-2019 11:19 AM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...898d1be58c.png




https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...f968072154.png




https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rcu...f995d0eac2.png

ted32776 08-12-2019 01:57 PM

Ok, now you've got my attention as well. I smell conspiracy. Seriously though, what do you make of this? Are we missing a rule stipulation here or have you discovered something big? Some of the pilots would certainly benefit from your version.

serious power 08-12-2019 04:11 PM

Hi,
I think it's just a mistake !!
However it should have been caught and corrected by double checking - this is/was a World Championship after all.

Brian

ted32776 08-12-2019 04:20 PM

Ok, agreed. I'll remove my tin foil hat and blindly proceed with life.

serious power 08-12-2019 04:39 PM

;)

Zeeb 08-12-2019 06:03 PM

Face it guys; those Europeans hate Americans and they hate electric power. There isn't anyway an American is going to win the WC running electric and probably not glow either. Andrew had the best shot and could not get past 3rd, now we have the "Wunderkind" from Lithuania, who beat CPLR in the European finals and he's taken that fourth spot. How else can you explain his standings leading up to the finals where he jumped from his more normal standings in the area of 12th, to 4th?

JMHO......


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