Blade CP Hover Problems
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Ok, here is one for you guys, I am a noob to heli's but I am farely inteligent and have been practicing with the new blade cp, the issue I have is I can get the heli up and fly just fine but I cannot keep it in a hover, no matter how many adjustments I make it either wants to go right, left, or backwards, will not stay stable no matter what I do, It is trimmed and I have even made numerouse adjustments on the gyro gain and proportional pot. Is there somthing I am doing wrong or is this just part of learning, My poor blade is so beat up but still flies good other than the hover issue, needless to say without being able to hover landings are a little rough, I even went so far as to mounting small swivel wheels on it like on a puter chair so when I bring it down it dont flip all over. Any help/ionfo would be great guys.
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I changed to the symetrical blades for an improvement it hovering
stability. Two reasons, 1. less wind effect on the blades, 2. higher
head speed due to shorter blades. Its worth a try since you claim
that nothing else has worked.
stability. Two reasons, 1. less wind effect on the blades, 2. higher
head speed due to shorter blades. Its worth a try since you claim
that nothing else has worked.
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Its hard to tell if somethings wrong or if its just that you need practice without seeing it physically flying. If your just having to apply lots of corrective inputs to keep it stable, its probably fine. That's just normal hovering. If you get it in a stable hover, and all of a sudden it shifts quickly in one direction requiring you to yank opposite to correct, then there may be an underlying problem (assuming it wasnt wind or something blowing it) If its doing that it could be radio glitches, Try rearraging the antenna so that its more extended instead of leaving it wrapped around the skids.
I would also agree with acr1346,
The symmetrical blades make a HUGE difference in stability. Instead of having to really fight it, it really seems to smooth out with the symmetrical blades. Head speeds are faster too, and this will help it stay steady also. Might be something you should try.
I would also agree with acr1346,
The symmetrical blades make a HUGE difference in stability. Instead of having to really fight it, it really seems to smooth out with the symmetrical blades. Head speeds are faster too, and this will help it stay steady also. Might be something you should try.
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I trimmed about a 1/2 a inch off of my blades with considerable improovement and can keep it within a 3 foot box but still not good enough to my liking, the new composite blades will be in soon, mabee that will help. Its just putting a lot of collective input, does not just all a sudden go crazy, I know what you mean about it being hard to tell...hehe
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From: Warner Robins,
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Be careful with those trimmed blades. There is a small thin lead weight bar inside the wood blades about 1/8th inch behind the leading edge. You can tell where its at by looking at the bottom of the blades. You'll see a line where it looks like they inlay'd some balsa in there. The strip is sandwiched in there. If it comes out when the blades are rotating, its like a bullet....LITERALLY. I had one come out of a pair of symmetrical blades that had some tip damage and it shot out of there REALLY fast and put a nice sized dent in the wall. Just be careful.
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That is somthing good to know, I know about the bar and didnt even think about it coming out. It would not come out on mine though as I put a thin layer of hot glue on each tip as to keep the shrink wrap from catching air and slowing my rotor down or fraying the covering. But that is somthing very good for the rest to know just in case as I could see where that would hurt if it hit flesh.
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the only bad thing is there is no warning when the batt goes low. the tail roter shuts and the thing spins in. It is virtually indestructable and replacement blades are 15.00 a set. I bought two crash kits motors both tail and main. and skids. I snapped a skid and replaced it this thing must be made of carbon fiber
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My blade is so beat up, I have busted the main frame where the tail boom goes in and I have busted both skids and all I do is put a little hot glue on it and it still flies farely well, I have a new main frame on its way along with the new composite blades I ordered so hopefully the thing will fly even better, they are indistructable, very easy fixes.
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Yup, most of the Blade is carbon fiber. The tail boom, and skid braces, along with parts of the underchassis that holds the battery. The rest is composite plastic. The thing is surprisingly very durable. Even with the 5-6 crashes Ive had, the only damage so far is some roughed up blades, and Ive managed to knock the tail rotor loose a couple of times.
Im not sure why they didnt put a cutoff on the heli. When the battery gets too low....your right, it will start spinning. Which is not the best thing for it to do on a low battery, and it doesnt give any warning. Im going to time mine, and then keep it under that time...hopefully that will work.
I had it hovering over the waterfall in my backyard, and it ran down....I barely kept it out of the drink, managed to land right on the edge of the pond.
E-flite, here's another one for you. On future editions, make the thing beep or something when the voltage starts getting low. And make the thing with a lipo, NiMH batteries are poo.
Even with the few things that we dont like, this is still the best CCPM micro heli out there. And the only complete kit for under $300 bucks that flys like a $1000 electric heli.
I got my tail motor fixed....I think. So there should be some more pics coming soon. Gonna try to get some video too.
Im not sure why they didnt put a cutoff on the heli. When the battery gets too low....your right, it will start spinning. Which is not the best thing for it to do on a low battery, and it doesnt give any warning. Im going to time mine, and then keep it under that time...hopefully that will work.
I had it hovering over the waterfall in my backyard, and it ran down....I barely kept it out of the drink, managed to land right on the edge of the pond.
E-flite, here's another one for you. On future editions, make the thing beep or something when the voltage starts getting low. And make the thing with a lipo, NiMH batteries are poo.
Even with the few things that we dont like, this is still the best CCPM micro heli out there. And the only complete kit for under $300 bucks that flys like a $1000 electric heli.
I got my tail motor fixed....I think. So there should be some more pics coming soon. Gonna try to get some video too.



