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michael marshall 07-22-2004 12:50 PM

Heading hold
 
If seen allot of high end gyros that have this feature. Can any one explain to me what this does?

justin_92_92 07-22-2004 11:34 PM

RE: Heading hold
 
this is the jist of it. It locks your tail so it is even with head speed so you dont spin around......if you spin your heli now your tail motor spins up to counteract it...with heading hold your tail motor will not stop untill the tail is back to the origanol spot.....this is unless you command it on the transmitter. it makes it so you dont need to use your left hand as much...lol

ht.chua 07-23-2004 04:28 AM

RE: Heading hold
 
Hi justin,
Is the HH hold gyro positioning refer to earth magnet field! How it works!
Thanks

VinceHerman 07-23-2004 07:57 AM

RE: Heading hold
 
No magnetism. :)
Today's gyros use piezo-electric crystals. When they bend, their electrical properties change, so they can be used to detect a change in the rate of rotation. Non-head holding gyros, or rate gyros, stop here, just providing control input while the rate of rotation is changing. This helps to dampen yaw changes thrown at the heli by the environment.
Head holding gyros go further. They have logic built in to use the rate of rotation information to calculate a heading. This allows a HH gyro to continue to provide control input until the original heading is re-acquired.

Basically, if a heli were hovering, and you reached out and pushed the tail to the side (don't do this, you will cut your finger):

If no gyro were in use, the tail would deflect a large amount.
If a rate gyro were in use, the gyro would tell the tail to take some corrective action, and the result would be that the tail would deflect a smaller amount.
If a HH gyro were in use, the gyro would tell the tail to take corrective action until it was back in the same position it was before you pushed the tail.

ht.chua 07-23-2004 11:49 AM

RE: Heading hold
 
Thanks Vince, I will digest it slowly!

michael marshall 07-23-2004 03:48 PM

RE: Heading hold
 
Wow that is a big defirace, mayby I should get one of those then. Thanks vince, you must be a human library lol.

justin_92_92 07-24-2004 01:23 AM

RE: Heading hold
 
get a pixi 7p for the tail esc if you do...you will need it.

VinceHerman 07-24-2004 08:03 AM

RE: Heading hold
 
If we are discussing which pieces to get, I have put togehter a list that give outstanding performance:

Futaba gy240 $120
schulze s. 105 $55 (?) (or TREC for $74)
pixie 7p $30 (gws ics100 would be cheaper)
3 cell LiPo $35
Charger (lpc-400) $60

3 cell LiPos give better power, and more lifting capability. Needed with the heavy gy240.
The high frequency schulze controller protects the abused tail motor

I have used a lot of different configurations, setting up a half dozen piccolos and a buddy's hummingbird. The configuration I listed gives the best tail control. It is simply the easiest micro heli to fly out of the bunch of them. Any of the heli pilots that are struggling to control their birds do better when they fly this heli.

justin_92_92 07-24-2004 08:38 AM

RE: Heading hold
 
http://www.hobbyhorse.com/castle_speed_control.shtml pixi 7p for 29.99

VinceHerman 07-24-2004 10:03 PM

RE: Heading hold
 
Thanks, Justin, I'll update my list.

ht.chua 07-24-2004 10:37 PM

RE: Heading hold
 
Hi Vince,
Is the Trec esc with built in mixer! Which place is the best buy?
Thanks

VinceHerman 07-25-2004 05:57 AM

RE: Heading hold
 
I do not know if this is the best, but it looks to be the company that offers it. [link=http://www.dionysusdesign.com/trec.shtml]dionysusdesign.com[/link] I have not tried the Trec myself, but base my recommendation on the experiences of many on the boards who do have positive experience.
I was just reading the page for the Trec, and realized I was quoting the price for the full package. You could get away spending less on a simpler package.

ht.chua 07-25-2004 10:43 AM

RE: Heading hold
 
Thanks Vince,
Trec esc is versatile from their website. Suitable for individual needs.
chua

justin_92_92 07-25-2004 01:31 PM

RE: Heading hold
 
I went with a pixi 20p...perfect incase I go up and get a zoom in a month or so.


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