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Old 07-14-2017, 11:51 PM
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CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 4 blades (with intake lip 2,old rotor)
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120
WELLPOWER SE10S,5000mAh,30C

I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate..... : 8kHz
-power out.....: 100%
-static thrust .: 46N (48N)

See posts 15 and 36!
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Old 07-14-2017, 11:53 PM
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Here is a video from the 10S 2017.07.14.test:


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CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 4 blades(with intake lip 2,old rotor)
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120
12S TURNIGY nano-tech 6000mAh 25-50C

I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate .....: 8kHz
-power out ....: 100%
-static thrust .: 66N (68N)

See post 73!
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Here is a video from the 12S 2017.07.14.test:


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I am going to test the CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 4 blades with the intake lip 2 and the exhaust pipe Ø100MM at aft.

See posts 40 and 41!
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I tested this EDF unit (post 80) 10S and 12S twice due to the rpm and the static thrust .

CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 4 blades (with intake lip 2,old rotor,exhaust pipe Ø100mm at aft)
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120
WELLPOWER SE10S,5000mAh,30C

I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate…...:8kHz
-power out…. : 100%
-static thrust. : 44N (46N)
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:36 AM
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CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 4 blades (with intake lip 2,old rotor,exhaust pipe Ø100mm at aft)
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120
12S TURNIGY nano-tech 6000mAh 25-50C

I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate .....: 8kHz
-power out ....: 100%
-static thrust .: 56N (62N)
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Old 09-16-2017, 02:12 AM
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Earlier,I bought a CHANGESUN Ø120mm 12bl. EDF because I liked the shape of the rotor blades.

The first impressions were:
-the rotor and the plades material and the surface are excellent
-the edf house material is weaker and not as strong as CHANGESUN Ø120 4bl. house.

I decided to insert this motor and test epx. 100-120A.I wanted to know the data of this EDF at these amperes.

The first test was not successful ,because the blades touched the inner side of the house and the ESC switched off due to the high ampere and the high temperature.During the test I used the WATTMETER for checking the ampere. See the pictures!

After the test I checked once more the motor hole diameter in the motor shaft which is a little bigger than it should be.
My turner makes a new,more accurate rotor shaft for this motor and we are going to check the diameter of the inner side of EDF house.
I am going to rebalancing the rotor.
I have to change the set up in the ESC.
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CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 12 blades
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120
12S TURNIGY nano-tech 6000mAh 25-50C

I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate .....: 8kHz
-power out ....: 66,7%
-static thrust .: 42N
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Old 09-18-2017, 12:18 AM
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Here is a video from the 12S 2017.09.11.first part of this day test:
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CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 12 blades

My measures are in ”mm” :
- the shaft of the motor diameter…….: Ø7,96
- the factory shaft adapter diameters: Ø8,02, Ø16,38, Ø10,00
- the new shaft adapter diameters…..: Ø7,99, Ø16,42, Ø10,04
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Old 10-16-2017, 01:28 AM
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The EDF unit run well with the new rotor shaft.

CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 12 blades
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120
12S TURNIGY nano-tech 6000mAh 25-50C

I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate .....: 8kHz
-power out ....: 72,2%
-static thrust .: 42N
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Old 10-29-2017, 01:38 AM
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I have decided to make a 6 blades rotor from 12 blades because this electro motor can and likes to run on higher rpm.
Then, I can compare the parameters with the CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 12 blades and 4 blades EDF.
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I have made 6 blades rotor. It is ready for test. I used UFO glue for gluing the rotor blades.
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CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 6 blades
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120
WELLPOWER SE 10S,5000mAh,30C

I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate…...: 8kHz
-power out…..: 100%
-static thrust. : 41-42N
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I used 2 types of accumulators during the CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 6 blades 12S test.
I started the test with 12S TURNIGY nano-tech 6000mAh 25-50C.
At higher rpm the EDF pulsed.My friend’s opinion is that the discharge rate(25-50C) is not enough for this test.I tested the EDF twice and got the same result.
Then I tested this EDF with an old 12S ZIPPY 5000mAh 45C. During these tests there weren’t pulses.I tested the EDF at 50N.

If somebody has opinion on pulsing of the EDF, please write me(us)!

CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 6 blades
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120
12S ZIPPY 5000mAh 45C

I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate…...: 8kHz
-power out…..: 92,2%
-static thrust. : 50N
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Old 12-14-2017, 11:38 AM
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I had made several EDF test and I saw what is important is the clear airflow in the EDF.
I didn’t like the older exhaust pipe parameters of the CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 4 blades so at first I redesigned a new exhaust pipe where I did not change the outside diameter only I reduced the diameter aft of the electro motor air cooling canal.
After that I will make a seven degree exhaust pipe Ø 100mm at aft then I test these two exhaust pipes together.
I hope I will get better result in this test than in the old one.
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There is the seven degree exhaust pipe Ø 100mm at aft.
There are the two exhaust pipes together.
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One of the M2 screws broke in the front part of the motor.I changed them to M3 screws.
The printed third exhaust pipe is not as nice as I expected to be because I hadn’t saved the 3D drawing corretly but I can still use it for the test.
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For the following tests I am using CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 4blades EDF with the new rotor,
because the old one broke during an unsuccessful test.

First, I tested the older accumulators and the EDF with intake lip 2 to get to know the initial parameters.
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CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 4 blades(with intake lip 2,new rotor)
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120
12S ZIPPY 5000mAh 45C


I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate .....: 8kHz
-power out ....: 100%
-static thrust .:
48-50N


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CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 4 blades(with intake lip 2,new rotor,exhaust pipe 2)
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120
12S ZIPPY 5000mAh 45C


I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate .....: 8kHz
-power out ....: 100%
-static thrust .: 52-56N



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CHANGESUN Ø 120mm 4 blades(with intake lip 2,new rotor,exhaust pipe 2-3)
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120
12S ZIPPY 5000mAh 45C


I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate .....: 8kHz
-power out ....: 100%
-static thrust .: 53-57N


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Here are some thoughts of the pulsing.
These accumulators were used and old at this time.
In the first part of this test I had set up in the ESC „Voltage Cutoff”- 38,67 V then I set 35,29 V.
During the test the ESC regulated back due to the voltage was lower than the „Cutoff Voltage” and it changed the rpm too.
One 6S of two accumulators is defective.



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