Art Tech SU-27
09-04-2006, 10:25 AM
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Art Tech SU-27
When i first saw the plane, i was in total awe. It was one of the best r/c planes i looked at and it looked awesome. so i have to ask this question. Do they still produce and sell those planes in America?
09-13-2006, 03:43 PM
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RE: Art Tech SU-27
I was wrong. Cox will not be producing the Su-27. I just contacted them and they will not be making it. sorry bout that. lets talk about how to find an Art-Tech SU-27 in the U.S.
09-23-2006, 04:08 PM
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RE: Art Tech SU-27
Hi there,
I got the ArtTec SU-27 and have a few tips for you. First of all, do not fly the it with the original motor set up. Its powered with two brushed 370 motors, which is way to weeak to have some fun with it. My first and only flight with these motors resulted in a crash, due to unreliable motor controller combined with the sloppy motors.
I upgraded it with two Hyperion Y-22 brushless motors and two 20 Amp speedcontrollers. This gives you almost 1 to 1 thrust weight, and it flyes realy nice and is very responsive. One more upgrade i did was to build in a simple thrust vector system for the pitch. This makes take off roll to about 1/3 of what it was without it, and its about 4 times more fun to fly the plane. It looks realy nice!
I got the ArtTec SU-27 and have a few tips for you. First of all, do not fly the it with the original motor set up. Its powered with two brushed 370 motors, which is way to weeak to have some fun with it. My first and only flight with these motors resulted in a crash, due to unreliable motor controller combined with the sloppy motors.
I upgraded it with two Hyperion Y-22 brushless motors and two 20 Amp speedcontrollers. This gives you almost 1 to 1 thrust weight, and it flyes realy nice and is very responsive. One more upgrade i did was to build in a simple thrust vector system for the pitch. This makes take off roll to about 1/3 of what it was without it, and its about 4 times more fun to fly the plane. It looks realy nice!
09-26-2006, 10:03 PM
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RE: Art Tech SU-27
Hi,
Interested in hearing about your thrust vector system on this model. I have a very short rough area for takeoff and have to handlaunch most models. Do you have any details you can post on how you did this as it sounds just what I need.
I've also gone with Hyperion brushless motors and GWS 64 fans. I trashed my front end trying to get in the air with the stock motors and am now waiting on some good weather to try again with the new motors. Some guys have had good flights though on the stock setup.
Here are the links to what a few of us are doing here and the story so far.
It is the art-tech model distributed by EGO in Australia.
[link]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=528736[/link]
[link]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=556528[/link]
Interested in hearing about your thrust vector system on this model. I have a very short rough area for takeoff and have to handlaunch most models. Do you have any details you can post on how you did this as it sounds just what I need.
I've also gone with Hyperion brushless motors and GWS 64 fans. I trashed my front end trying to get in the air with the stock motors and am now waiting on some good weather to try again with the new motors. Some guys have had good flights though on the stock setup.
Here are the links to what a few of us are doing here and the story so far.
It is the art-tech model distributed by EGO in Australia.
[link]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=528736[/link]
[link]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=556528[/link]
09-29-2006, 06:58 PM
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RE: Art Tech SU-27
Yes i bought two of these planes off ebay some months ago and me and my son destroyed them trying to fly them with the stock setup. You have to upgrade them. they shouldn't even sell them with brushed motors we were very disappointed. i tried to repair them and fly them again and crashed again and again. Still have the planes but i don't think they will ever fly again due to all the repairs made to them. there great for racing around on the ground thats about it.
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Hi there,
I got the ArtTec SU-27 and have a few tips for you. First of all, do not fly the it with the original motor set up. Its powered with two brushed 370 motors, which is way to weak to have some fun with it. My first and only flight with these motors resulted in a crash, due to unreliable motor controller combined with the sloppy motors.
I upgraded it with two Hyperion Y-22 brushless motors and two 20 Amp speedcontrollers. This gives you almost 1 to 1 thrust weight, and it flyes realy nice and is very responsive. One more upgrade i did was to build in a simple thrust vector system for the pitch. This makes take off roll to about 1/3 of what it was without it, and its about 4 times more fun to fly the plane. It looks realy nice!
Hi there,
I got the ArtTec SU-27 and have a few tips for you. First of all, do not fly the it with the original motor set up. Its powered with two brushed 370 motors, which is way to weak to have some fun with it. My first and only flight with these motors resulted in a crash, due to unreliable motor controller combined with the sloppy motors.
I upgraded it with two Hyperion Y-22 brushless motors and two 20 Amp speedcontrollers. This gives you almost 1 to 1 thrust weight, and it flyes realy nice and is very responsive. One more upgrade i did was to build in a simple thrust vector system for the pitch. This makes take off roll to about 1/3 of what it was without it, and its about 4 times more fun to fly the plane. It looks realy nice!
09-30-2006, 07:17 PM
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RE: Art Tech SU-27
Hi there,
The thrust vectors are realy simple. I drilled holes for a 2 mm carbon rod through the nozzles and glued on 15 mm wide hard wood plates as steering finns. Look at the pictures. The thrust vector finns is linked as a direct slave to the elevators. Cant be more simple, but it has great effect.
I also experimented with a thrust vector as rudder by adding an aditional servo parallelled to the nose wheel steering, but the effect of rudder vectoring was not to impressive. At slow speed it kicks the airplane inverted realy fast, so use caution if you try it out. Its the pitch vectoring that realy have effect and makes it a whole different airplane.
The thrust vectors are realy simple. I drilled holes for a 2 mm carbon rod through the nozzles and glued on 15 mm wide hard wood plates as steering finns. Look at the pictures. The thrust vector finns is linked as a direct slave to the elevators. Cant be more simple, but it has great effect.
I also experimented with a thrust vector as rudder by adding an aditional servo parallelled to the nose wheel steering, but the effect of rudder vectoring was not to impressive. At slow speed it kicks the airplane inverted realy fast, so use caution if you try it out. Its the pitch vectoring that realy have effect and makes it a whole different airplane.
10-01-2006, 12:01 PM
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RE: Art Tech SU-27
That's nice looking modification, Iroeine. How much did those modifications cost?
and linkadrip, sorry about the crashes. I think when i saw your videos, it was very windy. Try to fly it with very little winds.
and linkadrip, sorry about the crashes. I think when i saw your videos, it was very windy. Try to fly it with very little winds.
10-01-2006, 07:57 PM
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Yes the winds make a difference thats for sure i added a weight to the front of the aircraft to try and balance this out but still afraid to fly it i think i will upgrade to brushless before i atempt again. Maybe i will get better results.
10-10-2006, 01:16 PM
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RE: Art Tech SU-27
Hi at all!
@ R/C-Plane: It´s 30 - (40) Km/h fast, and it fly´s, "at no wind", very underpowered.
@ Iroeine: Very, very nice idea, your thrust vectors. I will put it on my plane, too.
I fly the su 4 times at stock motor setup and i think, she is totally underpowered. Iroeine is on the right way, brushless and new fans. The transmitter and electronic is very sloppy, when you can order it without electronic, then do this.
But it is a beautyfull model.
@ R/C-Plane: It´s 30 - (40) Km/h fast, and it fly´s, "at no wind", very underpowered.
@ Iroeine: Very, very nice idea, your thrust vectors. I will put it on my plane, too.
I fly the su 4 times at stock motor setup and i think, she is totally underpowered. Iroeine is on the right way, brushless and new fans. The transmitter and electronic is very sloppy, when you can order it without electronic, then do this.
But it is a beautyfull model.
11-11-2006, 07:07 PM
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RE: Art Tech SU-27
Hello Tumbler,
The Art-Tech SU-27 is Ready-to-fly.
You can find SU-27's in this site:
www.art-tech.cn/english/index.asp
The Art-Tech SU-27 is Ready-to-fly.
You can find SU-27's in this site:
www.art-tech.cn/english/index.asp
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RE: Art Tech SU-27
You can find both the kits and a full range of spares at http://www.centuryuk.com/Products/Aeroplane+Spares
They have all the SU27 bits in stock. If your'e looking for the model DON'T buy the kit caus you will throw half of it away anyway - junk radio/servos/charger/Fans/motors/escs etc, by getting the componants you will save money and the manual is available on line - but its obvious even without the manual.
They have all the SU27 bits in stock. If your'e looking for the model DON'T buy the kit caus you will throw half of it away anyway - junk radio/servos/charger/Fans/motors/escs etc, by getting the componants you will save money and the manual is available on line - but its obvious even without the manual.
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You can find both the kits and a full range of spares at http://www.centuryuk.com/Products/Aeroplane+Spares
They have all the SU27 bits in stock. If your'e looking for the model DON'T buy the kit caus you will throw half of it away anyway - junk radio/servos/charger/Fans/motors/escs etc, by getting the componants you will save money and the manual is available on line - but its obvious even without the manual.
They have all the SU27 bits in stock. If your'e looking for the model DON'T buy the kit caus you will throw half of it away anyway - junk radio/servos/charger/Fans/motors/escs etc, by getting the componants you will save money and the manual is available on line - but its obvious even without the manual.
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RE: Art Tech SU-27
hey im looking at either purchasing the sola models red arrow hawk or the su-37 , could some one give me a list of things if i bought the airframe only of the su-37 of motors fan etc etc they think would be suitable , also wdnt mind puttin retracts in to it , i have seen some 1 who has done that
many thnaks toby
many thnaks toby
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RE: Art Tech SU-27
Look on ebay, im sure i saw the same plane for $170. also they say it weighs 650g and its thrust is half that... and it definatly needs to be flown and not "aimed". go to art techs website and watch the video
