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JOZSEF 01-10-2015 10:44 AM

TURNIGY C580L -870 Brushless Inrunner EDF motor
 
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Hi,

Has anybody set up information for this motor? I couldn't find it on the internet. I'd like to compare it in my set up.
I tested 10S and 12s in a HAOYE 4,5/115mm

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2062741 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2062742

JOZSEF 01-12-2015 07:33 AM

4 Attachment(s)
WELLPOWER SE 10S 5000mAh 30C
HAOYE 4,5inch/115mm
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120

I set magnetic poles in motor 6 in the CC Datalog.
I think the rpm is good now.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2063319 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2063320http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2066398 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2063322

JOZSEF 01-15-2015 06:52 AM

4 Attachment(s)
ZIPPY 12 5000mAh 45c
HAOYE 4,5inch/115mm
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120

I used this test:
-motor timing n (normal (5) )
-pwm rate 12kHz

After the test the motor and the ESC were very hot !!!
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2066403 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2066404 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2063941 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2063938

JOZSEF 01-20-2015 09:01 AM

Can anybody give me the ESC setup for this motor?

- motor timing
- PWM rate

JOZSEF 01-27-2015 09:27 AM

2 Attachment(s)
WELLPOWER SE 10S 5000mAh 30C
HAOYE 4,5inch/115mm
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120

I used this test:
-motor timing n (normal (5) )
-pwm rate 8kHz

See the mouse line!

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2068263 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2068264

JOZSEF 02-04-2015 12:40 AM

2 Attachment(s)
WELLPOWER SE 10S 5000mAh 30C
HAOYE 4,5inch/115mm
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120

I used in this test:
-motor timing n (normal (5) )
-pwm rate 12kHz
-power out 100% - 90,7%

See the mouse line!

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2070365 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2070366


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-sVfmgLyRs&feature=youtu.be

JOZSEF 02-15-2015 06:56 AM

2 Attachment(s)
12S ZIPPY 5000mAh 40C
HAOYE 4,5inch/115mm
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120

I used in this test:
-motor timing n (normal (5) )
-pwm rate 12kHz
-power out 73,3% - 82,4%


http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2073350 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2073351

JOZSEF 03-07-2015 10:46 AM

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Im a beginner EDF modeler. I had an ALFA MIG-15 model.I decided Im going to build a bigger EDF jet.
I put in this motor to a CHANGESUN 120mm 4 blades EDF unit.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2079532 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2079533

JOZSEF 03-09-2015 08:17 AM

1 Attachment(s)
WELLPOWER SE 10S 5000mAh 30C
CHANGESUUN 120mm 4 blades
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120

I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate : 12kHz
-power out : 100%
-static thrust : 36N

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2080063

JOZSEF 03-10-2015 09:01 AM

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In this test I wanted to check ESC setup ”Fixed-Endpoints” before I test 12S in this EDF setup.
During the test the motor had stopped when I reduced the RPM and then it didn’t work.
An electro motor specialist saw the motor and said ”The motor has wire cut off ”.:(

WELLPOWER SE 10S 5000mAh 30C
CHANGESUN 120mm 4 blades
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120

I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate : 8kHz
-power out : 73,7%
-static thrust : 25N

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2080392

erh7771 03-13-2015 12:22 PM

You have to have an intake lip for the fans, without an intake lip tip of the fan rotor (fan blades) don't "bite" and you loose static thrust and efflux

Contact airsally on RCG... or get a 120mm intake lip from effluxrc.com and get good static thrust \ amp and efflux numbers

erh7771 03-13-2015 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by JOZSEF (Post 11958573)
Hi,

Has anybody set up information for this motor? I couldn't find it on the internet. I'd like to compare it in my set up.
I tested 10S and 12s in a HAOYE 4,5”/115mm

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2062741 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2062742

The 870 KV is too high to be efficient for the haoye 115

The 115 rotor nearly exact angle, pitch and diameter as the VIOFan rotor...

I think the KV for the viofan is in the 700s IINM

JOZSEF 03-14-2015 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by erh7771 (Post 12001848)
You have to have an intake lip for the fans, without an intake lip tip of the fan rotor (fan blades) don't "bite" and you loose static thrust and efflux

Contact airsally on RCG... or get a 120mm intake lip from effluxrc.com and get good static thrust \ amp and efflux numbers


Thanks for the info, I will see it.

I guess you are right. The motor KV is too high at the max. 100% RPM in HAOYE EDF. At the max. RPM the ampere was higher than allowed and the motor was too hot, therefore I chose lower RPM where the motor is warm but not too hot during the test and where the fan works well.

I am only getting to know this category.

JOZSEF 03-16-2015 12:33 AM

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I gave the motor to a modeler who knows very well the model electro motors. He has repaired many electro motors so far . He had dismounted the motor and took some photos of it. Here are his pictures.
He found the mistake.

It was very simple, unbelievable mistake. The wire cut off was outside the motor at the one plug of the three ones.
I guess this happened. The wire burnt out/moved out a little / melted out during the tests when the ESC, the motor and the wires were very very hot. After these tests I didnt check the plugs because the motor worked well. The plug held position until the last test, when it had moved out and it didnt have connection. I guess I was lucky this happened on the ground and not in the air in a model.

The motor works well but it is going to get new bearings. :)

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2081768 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2081769 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2081770 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2081771 http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2081772

JOZSEF 04-21-2015 09:47 AM

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The motor work well.
I repeated the 10S, throttle 100%test because thewire connection of the motor was bad and this failure caused a small EDF vibration .

WELLPOWER SE10S 5000mAh 30C
CHANGESUUN 120mm 4 blades
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120

I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate : 8kHz
-power out : 100%
-static thrust : 39N

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2090790

JOZSEF 04-29-2015 11:07 AM

1 Attachment(s)
12S ZIPPY 5000mAh 40C
CHANGESUN 120mm 4 blades
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120

I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate : 8kHz
-power out : 100%
-static thrust : 48N

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2093035

gman4reel 09-02-2015 04:32 PM

What is your static thrust for this setup??

JOZSEF 09-03-2015 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by gman4reel (Post 12093800)
What is your static thrust for this setup??

The maximum thrust is exactly 4,84kg at the throttle 100% and the maximum rpm.

JOZSEF 10-01-2015 11:49 PM

Has anybody data of this motor and HAOYE 5inch/127mm 7blades?

JOZSEF 10-12-2015 05:20 AM

3 Attachment(s)
12S ZIPPY 5000mAh 45C
HAOYE 5inch/127mm 7 blades
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120

I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate : 8kHz
-power out : 67,5%
-static thrust : 30N

erh7771 10-12-2015 12:31 PM

I do with the 600kv motor HK motor here - 580kv

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Motor_4kw.html

- LPB Power 12s 5000mah
- YEP ESC 120 low timing
- Haoye 7 blade fan (WITH AIR Sally INTAKE LIP ***)
- Horizontal thrust stand with pull meter.

- Thrust - 15 lbs peak at 4300 watts (45 volts (the pack IR's ~ 1 a cell) x 95 amps)

*** without intake lip the thrust will be low and so will efflux (exhaust side air speed) due to air not going into rotor as smooth as it could with an intake lip.

erh7771 10-12-2015 12:43 PM

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Hello Josef,

Without an intake lip the air becomes turbulent around the edge of the front of the shroud and virtually starves the rotor from air smooth air.

The total watts and thrust and efflux will be reduced as a result

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2125063

JOZSEF 10-14-2015 05:29 AM

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Hello erh7771,
Thanks for your good advice.I will make an intake lip for my fan.
I only got static thrust 35N, at 27047 rpm and at 99,1A

12S ZIPPY 5000mAh 45C
HAOYE 5inch/127mm 7 blades
CASLE PHOENIX EDGE HV 120

I used in this test:
-motor timing : low
-pwm rate : 8kHz
-power out : 78%
-static thrust : 35N

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2125323

Could anybody tell me where can I buy a 4 or 5 blades rotor for HAOYE 5inch/127mm?
I think the 870kv motor is too high for 7 blades HAOYE 5inch/127mm.

JOZSEF 10-20-2015 11:44 PM

Could anybody tell me which factory produces the EDF HAOYE 5inch/127mm?

gman4reel 12-24-2015 06:00 AM

What is the makeshift cooling system you have on you motor?? How was that done and with what materials. Do you have the thrust figures for this setup??


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