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maiochine 05-28-2004 09:43 AM

FIREBIRD COMMANDER
 
hello !!!

Yesteday was the easiest day....i just got crashed my FIREBIRD COMMANDER by trying to execute a looping ..it went to a spirale and than ate the dust...
actualy i was flying with the proffessional mode for the first time!

COULD ANYONE HELP ME WITH SOME TIPS ABOUT HOW TO EXECUTE A LOOPING WITH THAT BIRD ?
I WILL BE GREATFULL FOR ANY HELP YOU COULD DO GUYS ........

Erikelectric 05-28-2004 08:20 PM

RE: FIREBIRD COMMANDER
 
Is it a 2 or 3 channel? (2=motor and rudder. 3=motor, rudder elevator) Im not farmiliar with your bird.

WolfeWind 05-28-2004 09:16 PM

RE: FIREBIRD COMMANDER
 
Heya Maio,

Since the Commander is only a 2 channel, you cannot use "up elevator" as you normally would to execute a loop. What you have to do is basically trick the Comander into looping.

Here is one way

First get some altitude - a couple of hundred feet at least would be best. Then head into the wind under about 1/2 throttle. Then goose the throttle to start it climbing and as soon as it starts up, cut the throttle to make it stall. Once the nose drops and it starts down goose the throttle again - if it stalls again - repeat the proceedure so you start getting increasing climb/stall behavior out of it - eventually it should go over the top.

Another way.

Get altitude and then crank it into a hard turn so it starts to spiral down and build up speed - then correct the spiral and give it full throttle - it may go over the top that way.

Last way

Get it to stall and head into a dive and then give it full throttle to make it climb. As it climbs use right-left-right-left (keep this up) as fast as you can so you are simulating an up elevator movement.

What you have to do to make the Commander loop is find a way to build up your speed and then essentially depend on the lift of the wing to create a loop.

Reinforce your wing first or it may fold up in a high g manuevre. And fly it in the advanced mode.

Also, beware that it will come out of failed attempts at high speeds and erratic, unpredictable, and severe angles. Make sure you have learned how to just fly it well before you try all this stuff or you will surely play lawn darts.

maiochine 06-01-2004 02:24 AM

RE: FIREBIRD COMMANDER
 
i want to thank you for your support !!

i find very reasonable what you said about the "high G manuevre",
cause i remeber that i saw my aircraft diving in a strange way !!!
it was like if it was an RC CAR left up up in the wind it doesnt look like an airplane falling !!!! and after that i tried to join the two pieces of the wing and they seem to be particulary folded up it's a good reason !!!!
Any way things happen so fast so you cant even realise anything!!

i appreciate your help and advices WolfeWind....

Regards

brownstone101 02-09-2005 10:10 PM

RE: FIREBIRD COMMANDER
 
hay i havent don a loop yet but Maio can u tell me were is ur spool for the line what place is it on the control horn????? if u put it at the lowes hole and tighten it so its level with the wing but tight test that out see how mutch senistive the plane is and put it in soprt mode for the 1st test flight then put it in pro see if that helps ya


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