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Warlock 02-13-2003 06:22 PM

begginer overload
 
I have a couple questions and a couple statements....first i've never flown a rc plane before although i have flown plent simulaters for flight and rc. I've read alot of the links here and just about researched the subject to death. ONly problem is i get conflicting stories all over i've narrowed it down to the AIRSTRIKE THE SKY SCOOTER PRO 2 & THE AEROBIRD. I would really appreciate comments on these planes and how they handle cuz i've been told the scooter is too hard and then i hear the other 2 are to hard and then they throw in the firbird xl.....or not!!!! talk about getting the run around.
I don't want to buy a plane that is to hard to fly and crash it and have it in pieces however i don't want one that i will be bored of at the end of the month either. and i dont' care for the slow stick or tiger moth...i don't like the looks of them at all.....thanks for your time

jchuston 02-13-2003 06:46 PM

Aerobird
 
Warlock-

If I were in your position and just starting to fly, I would get the Aerobird from Horizon Hobby. The Aerobird costs about $169 and is a three channel electric. This basically means that you will be able to control the ascent abd the decent of the airplane with an elevator function, not just increasing the throttle. ALso, it will allow you to do loops and such...gain enough altitude, dive a little and then do a loop...

Now, if you want to go with about anything else, you will need to have some modeling experience in order to put the thing together, you will need to buy a radio, batteries, and everything else that the plane needs.

With the Aerobird, you will get a radio with it, batteries, assembly time is about 20 minutes (if you take your time)...

I learned to fly on the original Firebird and do not regret it...

Also, with the aerobird, you can crash them hard and no spend much to fix them...My original Firebird was put through hell and normally the repair was a tailwing, and once I had to replace the main wing...no more than $20 for either one...

GET THE AEROBIRD!!!

-John

toysejr 02-13-2003 08:53 PM

begginer overload
 
Aerobird will be easier to learn to fly...

Sky Scooter Pro 2 will be more of a challenge but will work tooo..

Crashing will happen and is just a matter of time hopefully later than sooner...

I have a Sky Scooter Pro 2 and love it..(just upgraded to a new gearbox and APC prop but weather hasn't cooperated to test it out)

I know someone who Flies a Aerobird everyday (weather permitting) and loves it..

Both are priced about the same....

Sky Scooter is my choice because more usable pieces (radio,battery..) for future Electric powered flying..

That's my 2 cents worth...

Toyse

goofup 02-14-2003 06:13 PM

begginer overload
 
Warlock, you sound like you’re ready to pull your hair out trying to find the Perfect Beginners Plane. Sorry, there isn’t one. If there were, we’d all be suggesting it (and I’d buy a bunch of stock in that company). Since you’ve “researched the subject to death” you’ve found out that every plane has advantages and disadvantages, advocates and detractors. Like it or not, you can’t have it all. You just have to pick the one that that you THINK will be the best for you.

Riding a bike is easy, right? But learning to ride in the first place was hard and planes are no different. They’re all “hard” to fly….at first. But it gets easier with practice. And don’t worry about crashing. Reality Check: you will crash. Many times. Some planes are “tougher” than others, but they will all break into pieces if you hit something at speed or “wrong”. You will have to learn how to repair planes. It also seems like you’re looking for a semi-acrobatic plane that you won’t be “bored (with) at the end of the month”. If you’re trying to learn how to fly, that’s exactly the kind of plane you don’t need. Your learning curve just went vertical.

It’s too bad you don’t think Slow Sticks or Tiger Moths look cool enough for you, cause that’s what I’d suggest you get for training. Having been there and done that myself, I consider the planes you are looking at as a waste of time, money, and effort. I'm not saying they're bad, or not fun. Just lousy trainers.

However, if you insist on one of the 4 you mentioned, get the Aerobird. At least you can learn how to FLY with it. Do not get the SS Pro or Firebird- all you’ll learn is how to fly THEM (they aren't "normal", one has no rudder, the other no elevator).

Goofup

Nik 02-15-2003 12:59 PM

begginer overload
 
Hey,
I did had the aerobird, well the t-hawk but it is almost the same! And i wanna say don't buy it! Now i have the sky scooter Pro2 which i bought from towerhobbies for $135 and everything is fine!
The good thing is my friend had a sky scooter pro 2 also and he crashed it from 50 or 75 ft with a 90 Degree angle into the ground. The nose went of and the propeller was broken but everthing else was untuched. We came home and we just used some epoxy and glued the nose back on. Since only one side of the propeller broke we could use screwdriver and used the one side of the second propeller that was in the box!.
Now the flight time of the t-hawk was better but i thought that the skyscooter was alittle bit easier to fly. Get the sky scooter and a charger that you can use at home and save money! The sky scooter is also so much better acrobatics! And btw: if you get the sky scooter make these checks before and in the flight:

• Check if everything is glued on (espacially the red things on the main wing)

• Check the arileon and the elevotor if everything works fine

• Check battery

• Before the flight, run into the wind with the sky scooter up and check every direction of the arilieon and the elevator

• Fly safe if you are a beginner (Don't start with acrobatics)

• If you hear the battery is almost empty and the motor doesn't have power it's time to land

• And the last thing turn the motor off before the you touch the ground abouth 10 feet of the ground.

That's all!

Sorry for my bad english, i'm german

CU ;)

Warlock 02-15-2003 11:40 PM

begginer overload
 
thanks for all the info much appreciated


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