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ASP 180 FS gas conversion
I received an ASP 180 four strokes to conversion. Engine is fully new.
Im going to start regards max |
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I fit hall sensor, magnet new hub etc
The interesting part I think is that I removed original carb and make new intake with walbro carb support. I will use a modified walbro for 4 strokes Intake is 3 parts maiden from aluminum, and is aluminum welded Regards Max |
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I break In engine with gasoline 30:1 mix oil. I remove back plate and cover valves and engine is fully oiled. Works nice smooth I will post video later
Regards Max |
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Nice job!And what ignition module do you use? Is 30:1 mixture enough oil to operate the engine?If the con rod is not roller bearing supported then you should increase oil content!
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ORIGINAL: Nikolas K Nice job!And what ignition module do you use? Is 30:1 mixture enough oil to operate the engine?If the con rod is not roller bearing supported then you should increase oil content! Im Using Rcexl ignition. Oil is enought only use a high quality synthetic. I had ran my saitos with 1:40 many hours and still excellent. Hopes this ASP be too. I tested many oils. Some oils burn easy and not lubricate engine. others still with viscosity. I found that almost all 2 strokes aoils are not good, , burns very easy. I found that oils designed for mix 1:100 are better oils here in Mexico i found Amsoil excellent. In other hand more oil, less power, and begins walbro problems Regards max |
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here is video
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zVYgKZj8SE[/youtube] regards Max |
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Hi Max. Nice job [8D]
What size Walbro/type did you use? - I had most luck with 9.5mm choke and with accelerator pump (WT-38). |
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Nice job Max, well done!
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Thanks a lot
Im using a 13mm walbro wt series. modified to work in 4 strokes Regards max |
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Also a WT-456-1 or Zama C1Q-P8 will work, Idid it on Satio ,FG20,FA125,FA120S,FG30,FA150 and FA180Iam working on FA 220. and Iused C&H Ignitions .
Adrian |
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very nice !!
I have the Magnum 180 fs, it should be the same Engine,, a little info, my Magnum had very little compression, it came stock with 2 Head Shims so I removed 1 Shim, the RPM came up 700 RPMs (but I run it on Glow), there is a guy here on RCU that removed both Shims (but here too he is burning Glow),, so you may want to think about removing 1 of the Shims to get a bit more power,, I get 8850 with an APC 17x8 on 15% glow and it drinks about 1oz a minute,, what size Prop are you using there ?? BTW,, that Engine sounds as if it needs the Rocker Arms adjusted, when my Engine was new I had to re-tighten the Head Bolts 3 times and re-adjust the Rocker Arms 3 times within the first gallon of fuel !!! Jim |
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ORIGINAL: i7x58 Also a WT-456-1 or Zama C1Q-P8 will work, I did it on Satio ,FG20,FA125,FA120S,FG30,FA150 and FA180 I am working on FA 220. and I used C&H Ignitions . Adrian |
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ORIGINAL: the Wasp very nice !! I have the Magnum 180 fs, it should be the same Engine,, a little info, my Magnum had very little compression, it came stock with 2 Head Shims so I removed 1 Shim, the RPM came up 700 RPMs (but I run it on Glow), there is a guy here on RCU that removed both Shims (but here too he is burning Glow),, so you may want to think about removing 1 of the Shims to get a bit more power,, I get 8850 with an APC 17x8 on 15% glow and it drinks about 1oz a minute,, what size Prop are you using there ?? BTW,, that Engine sounds as if it needs the Rocker Arms adjusted, when my Engine was new I had to re-tighten the Head Bolts 3 times and re-adjust the Rocker Arms 3 times within the first gallon of fuel !!! Jim Im using a 18X8 prop I dont remove head shrims but Im sure you reaay get the 700 rpm more with it About rocket arms are you ussing 20% oil fuel?? This asp never touch nitro rwas break in wit gasoline only first 30:! now is using 40:1 and s fully oiled May be problems with head when remove shims, something desadjust of corse when you remove itneed adjust vavles convert it to gas :D Rgards Max |
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I'm using 16% Oil,,
as for me removing that Shim, I removed the Shim when I broke a Valve Spring when I had a Blade Strike, I was thinking, with that Engine burning Gas it may run hotter and may need a larger Lash than the Factory Specs Jim |
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Is important engine be ok in all its parts before converting. Engine will run hotter with gas but is no a problem Firts repair it. If you want send pics and could help you
Regards Max |
RE: ASP 180 FS gas conversion
Is important engine be ok in all its parts before converting. Engine will run hotter with gas but is no a problem Firts repair it. If you want send pics and could help you
Regards Max |
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Its been a long time since this post, but I wanted to see for those who have converted How are there motors still running?
Im building a ESM B25 and while it would be easyer to put 2 DLE30 on it just wont have the sound I want. So how you guys likeing your converted motors? |
Originally Posted by Maximiliano Galvez
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Is important engine be ok in all its parts before converting. Engine will run hotter with gas but is no a problem Firts repair it. If you want send pics and could help you
Regards Max How is going the ASP 180?? I want to do same conversión on a new ASP 180. Could you please give me the cost of the KIT?? I want to do it myself Nicolas de CHile |
I have not seem Max on here for some time now. He does nice work for sure. I would not use Amzoil because they changed the ingredients ..............
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I know this is a old thread, but I got 2 conversion kits from Max, for 2 new ASP 1.80 4c from HK for my ESM B25.
One of these motors I have around 5 flights on in a spacewalker, but they are both basically new. I feel like Im low on power, Im getting 8600rpm on a MAS 15X7X3 prop which according to the calc is 2.143 hp vs 3+ that most of you ASP owners are showing. But just reread this thread and may have found one of my issues, as Im running my oil at 20:1 as that is what I thought we needed, Im sure I may pick up a few rpms with more fuel. I will try and see if there is a diff. |
16*8 on petrol with ~~8,000 RPM (or less) and 20:1 oil is right. 15*7*3 at 8,600 is good. 18*8 only OK for methanol with a lot of oil.
If you don't have a roller main bearing, don't run less oil than 20:1! It will seize! Look here http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/engi...-glow-gas.html |
I would like to know where I can purchase just the ring to go over the hub.
Would be good to know where to buy a length of aluminium tubing and cut my own. Need 27mm id with about 35 od. |
Originally Posted by dogshome
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16*8 on petrol with ~~8,000 RPM (or less) and 20:1 oil is right. 15*7*3 at 8,600 is good. 18*8 only OK for methanol with a lot of oil.
If you don't have a roller main bearing, don't run less oil than 20:1! It will seize! Look here http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/engi...-glow-gas.html Without touching the needles im now getting 9300_9400rpm at wot with the same 14x7x3 master airscrew props They sound great |
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I converted my 180 to ignition burning ethanol 10:1 sintetic.
After run in I inspected and found everythink well oiled an clean, no carbon. Measuring the parts I noted the crank pin marked and the conrod bush oval. In the pics below You can see the pin bush with 3 oil holes, 2 downward and a third one uppward, just in the area where the pressure is higher. I balanced the engine as per the book and made another bronze bush, only two holes down. Have one of You met this issue??? Note 3 holes in original pin bush. |
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