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Bpar4 07-28-2014 04:00 AM

Looking at the Tower OS catalog page, the con rod for the Heli version has ball bearing on one end and a plain sleeve type on the other. This is a very promising commercial development. Bob

hessian123 07-28-2014 06:15 AM

Trying out the new glow plug in a more typical glow engine sounds like an interesting experiment. From just looking at the photos and comparing with regular glow plugs I'm familiar with, it seems like there might need to be some shims or spacers used to ensure the piston doesn't impact the plug. Hopefully O.S. kept the threads the same. I've got a bunch of glow engines in the .40 to .61 range, and one YS 1.50 that I'd love to run on gas!

vasek 07-28-2014 08:03 AM

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It would be nice for someone living in the US to order one and post some info. On the TH site there seems to be conflicting info regarding the plug function (see pic)
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=2018010

hessian123 07-28-2014 08:15 AM

I noticed that as well. I wonder if they rushed this out the door so quickly that the marketing materials didn't get a thorough check.

aspeed 07-28-2014 01:28 PM

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXEJRG&P=ML looks like the tip of the plug extends into the combustion chamber about the same amount as the length of the threads. About .156" That may be so the combustion happens close to the piston. Any way you look at it, it will not work on a smaller motor than a .40 or so without making a new head.$13 too? US dollars? shipping? I wonder if it is the 1/4" - 32 thread. Norvel uses a turbo plug in theirs, extra hot. It needs a new head too, either plug on a smaller motor. $50 for the rod too. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXDBTD&P=PU Oh, the carb is $125 too. Interestingly, there is a thermal spacer under the carb. I am starting to think it is more $ than a small block Chevy?

fujiman 09-05-2014 10:05 AM

wonder what other OS engines that rod would work in...........hhhhmmmm!!!!!!!

av8tor1977 09-08-2014 05:50 PM

A needle bearing rod won't work on a crankshaft designed for a bushing unless you change the crankpin for a hardened pin, which is no simple matter to do. You need a lathe and the knowledge to use it. If you use a needle bearing on a standard bushing crankpin, it will destroy the crank in short order.

Secondly, a heat barrier for the carb is a really good idea when running gasoline, because running without one you can easily run into problems with the gasoline vaporizing in the carb and causing all sorts of tuning and hot starting problems.

Guys, really good ignition systems are only 50 bucks now, and with an IBEC, you don't even have to run an ignition battery......

AV8TOR

captinjohn 10-19-2014 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by av8tor1977 (Post 11876838)
A needle bearing rod won't work on a crankshaft designed for a bushing unless you change the crankpin for a hardened pin, which is no simple matter to do. You need a lathe and the knowledge to use it. If you use a needle bearing on a standard bushing crankpin, it will destroy the crank in short order.

Secondly, a heat barrier for the carb is a really good idea when running gasoline, because running without one you can easily run into problems with the gasoline vaporizing in the carb and causing all sorts of tuning and hot starting problems.

Guys, really good ignition systems are only 50 bucks now, and with an IBEC, you don't even have to run an ignition battery......

AV8TOR

Would it be possible to press a thin bushing over the crankpin to provide hard surface for needle bearing to ride on? just a thought.

Capt,n

spaceworm 10-20-2014 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by captinjohn (Post 11902390)
Would it be possible to press a thin bushing over the crankpin to provide hard surface for needle bearing to ride on? just a thought.

Capt,n

Repair kits for automotive crankshaft bearing surfaces do just that. I repaired the front CS end on a Bertone X 1/9 engine that way years ago. The plain bearings in that case were not ball or roller or needle, but the repair sleeve was hardened steel. A Loctite adhesive was applied to hold the sleeve in position. Of course the heat, RPMs, and oil lube were different.

Sincerely, Richard

captinjohn 10-20-2014 03:00 PM

Produce a hard surface
 
My dad worked in a large engine building shop & he was in the heat treating department for several years. Anyway he would case harden knife blades we used for hunting...ect. So I did a search and found some ways to harden the metal surface of common steel. Click on link to read. Thanks Capt,n

http://tradetools.co.nz/products/2874710

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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/119...-compound-1-lb


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