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Old 06-12-2013, 08:28 PM
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Default Ingredients for diesel fuel

The best easy to get quality kero available in Australia (KCB brand light gray) may be about to change, just like "Diggers light grey" did a quite a few years ago.

I understood that all the good local stuff comes from the Shell Refinery in Geelong Victoria, which is set to stop all production and simply become a depot for foreign imports..

I'm beginning to stockpile the four litre containers of KCB now in expectation of a sudden drop in quality.

On the topic of Shell products, I was in a local Carting supply shop yesterday getting a fresh supply of Nitro, and noticed Litre containers of Shell M-30 enhanced Castor.

Anyone tried it?

Yes, I know it doesn't mix with Mineral Oil but it will with Ether.

Ray

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Old 06-12-2013, 10:52 PM
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Ray,

The last batch of KCB I got was the vivid blue, that Diggers went to when the quality went down.

It works fine for sport, I don't know how it performs under race conditions.

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Old 06-12-2013, 11:30 PM
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Ah!

We're still getting the lighter coloured stuff in Newcastle.

It might happen quicker than I'd anticipated.

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Ray

I am a motorcyclist. I try the different castor base lubricants stocked in 'serious' cycle shops. I picked up some Shell Racing M castor based oil a few years ago. It looked the same as Castrol R 30.

It worked fine in my MVVS 49. It left a nice 'white plume' exhaust trail when running. It also had a good odour. However the exhaust residue was dark brown. I'd say due to the red dye in the oil. It stained the covering, unlike standard 1st pressing castor. So, I went back to that for the castor component in my model engine fuels.

Fuchs Castorene R 30 seems to be very much the same as Castrol R 30. The Shell and Fuchs oils are also expensive compared to the castor we buy in 5 litre packs.

They do the job. However for the above reasons I won't be trying them again.

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Ray

I am a motorcyclist. I try the different castor base lubricants stocked in 'serious' cycle shops. I picked up some Shell Racing M castor based oil a few years ago. It looked the same as Castrol R 30.

It worked fine in my MVVS 49. It left a nice 'white plume' exhaust trail when running. It also had a good odour. However the exhaust residue was dark brown. I'd say due to the red dye in the oil. It stained the covering, unlike standard 1st pressing castor. So, I went back to that for the castor component in my model engine fuels.

Fuchs Castorene R 30 seems to be very much the same as Castrol R 30. The Shell and Fuchs oils are also expensive compared to the castor we buy in 5 litre packs.

They do the job. However for the above reasons I won't be trying them again.

Staining isn't good!

What sort of a finish was it, Film or paint?

I could understand it staining the former.

I don't use a lot of the enhanced castor so the price isn't a real issue. A few diesels run much better on them in the lower percentages

e.g. Nelson diesels on less than 15%, and I'm told that the Fora Junior rod problems disappear on less than that..



I did have a quart of the Fuchs Castor years ago, and was impressed by it's superiority over the normal r/c castor.

Regrettably the bike shop where it was available closed and moved on, and I haven't seen it since.


Ray
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ORIGINAL: fiery

Ray

I am a motorcyclist. I try the different castor base lubricants stocked in 'serious' cycle shops. I picked up some Shell Racing M castor based oil a few years ago. It looked the same as Castrol R 30.

It worked fine in my MVVS 49. It left a nice 'white plume' exhaust trail when running. It also had a good odour. However the exhaust residue was dark brown. I'd say due to the red dye in the oil. It stained the covering, unlike standard 1st pressing castor. So, I went back to that for the castor component in my model engine fuels.

Fuchs Castorene R 30 seems to be very much the same as Castrol R 30. The Shell and Fuchs oils are also expensive compared to the castor we buy in 5 litre packs.

They do the job. However for the above reasons I won't be trying them again.

Staining isn't good!

What sort of a finish was it, Film or paint?

I could understand it staining the former.

I don't use a lot of the enhanced castor so the price isn't a real issue. A few diesels run much better on them in the lower percentages

e.g. Nelson diesels on less than 15%, and I'm told that the Fora Junior rod problems disappear on less than that..



I did have a quart of the Fuchs Castor years ago, and was impressed by it's superiority over the normal r/c castor.

Regrettably the bike shop where it was available closed and moved on, and I haven't seen it since.

I'd forgotten about how nice castor can smell. We used to put a tea spoon of it in our Mini Coopers to make them smell like the racing ones which used castor in the sump/gearbox.

Ray


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Profilm.

It stained, as in, would not clean off. Even with normal clean-up spray such as 'spray'n'wipe'.

Old 06-14-2013, 05:33 AM
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mine came came Brodak Qt about $15.00, he is the big c/l suppler here in the USA. the drug stores have USP grade (pure no sugar) but they charge about $2.50 for a 2 oz bottle

martin

Post note I usally use Davis fuels his standard and 1/2A they run any engine I have 1/2 A and up thru 90s but sometimes run out and make a batch, for such events I have a stash of castor. John Deere starting fluid. amsoil cetane booster, K-1 kero, Klotz synthetic oil ,Brodak castor
I do not think Aerodyne or Red max still have diesel fuel in production

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