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Old 03-18-2010, 11:09 PM
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Default Breakfest with Benno

I'm so excited!
Meeting Benno Schlosser in person tomorrow morning.

Spring has finally hit Das Fatherland - the crocus are peaking out from the tundra,
spring is in the air, the girls are looking good - what a better cure for my diesel withdraws - I havn't run one in over a month - they will be all gummed up when I return
Old 03-18-2010, 11:13 PM
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Please say "hello" to Herr Benno from me

Stewart (SGC) and myself both have his 1 cc R/C engine. Exquisite.

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What can I say , I'm jelous
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Please educate this model Diesel engine ignoramous enthusiast, who is this mysterious Benno that others speak of in such reverential (yes, I made that up) tones? TIA


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Ed,
Benno Schlosser is an engine builder/manufacturer from Germany, he is 86yo and has been makeing engines for over 60yrs. He currently makes a .25cc C/L ,.5cc in R/C and C/L and a 1cc R/C and C/L twin ballraced diesels. These are very nice easy handling, good mannered engines, a little pricey but once in the hand you appreciate the quality. He has in the past (around 1958-1962) built competative 2.5cc team race diesels.
Hopefully Rob will find out more about his engine history.
Stewart
Benno I beleive still competes in free flyte events F1J I think.
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Stewart,
I will have two translators with me.
One German with decent english and a yank from Oklahoma who was stationed here and fell in love with a beautiful German lady and could not leave - pretty easy to do in spring time.

I do not know how much time he has available because I'm afraid he will shoo us away so he can get to the flying field - Chasing the freeflights keeps him young
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Hi Rob,
What a great breakfast!
I absolutley love my Schlossers.
They don't look too exotic, but once you flick one over - no further explanation is necessary - just superb.
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The visit was to short!
A more gracious gentleman with a beautiful wife of 63 years could not be imagined.
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Old 03-20-2010, 11:16 AM
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His 1cc F1? glow engine

Cyclon and Profi have nothing on this baby.
And it is my preference of rear exhaust over the profi.

He made 10 pieces and was dissappointed that nobody flew one - they all ended up in display cases.
I explained I would run one up as soon as I arrived home and begged for one but this is sadly his last[]

32k rpm +
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Old 03-20-2010, 11:24 AM
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I noticed this beast on the shelf and inquired.
Like a true aero-modeler - he can't pick up an engine without turning the prop over in his hands[8D]

12cc of Schlosser Diesel
He did this as an experiment to put on a glider tow plane. He sayes he even impressed himself on the slow idle and quick throttle response from a prolonged lope.
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Old 03-20-2010, 11:31 AM
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I did feel obligated to inform Herr and Frau Schlosser of the recent passing of Gordon Burford and they were visably saddened and wish to send the warmest condolences to Peter, David and their friends down under.
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My two interpreters, Jesse (yank- left ) and Peter (German - right) made such a difference!
Peter is such a charming gentlemen and kept the conversation lively and was able to convey both My and "Our- RCU Global Fraternity" admirations, respect and graditude for his superb workmanship in an extremely sincere and respectful demeanor.
Jesse was able to translate tthe conversation back to me and he was able to translate my many questions to inquire. I handwrote 4 pages of notes.

I can not thank these two enough for their help - Peter placed the initial call to Herr Schlosser and made all arrangements for me than asked what time I was picking him up. He would not let me go alone[8D]

Stewart SGC suggested "We" do an indepth history as there is very little out there - and I think "We" have enough information to work with now.

We conducted the interview cronologically.

A scaled down '49 Brummer - Mini Brummer with a 1st Version .25cc pb
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Old 03-20-2010, 02:43 PM
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Rob,
Sounds like you did well, hopefully you took lots of pictures
There was a NIB mk1 .25cc PB schlosser sold on the auction site only 2 weeks ago about US$220 from memory- I did save the pictures from the add.
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Great call!

I did pack away his last two .25 bb engines

He hinted that he will do another run.

Talk to David Owen if interested.

I want to discuss a 1cc glow run......anyone?

I have a bunch more photos to get up of his shop and what not.

I think US customs will allow up to $10k usd in import before they get excited.....
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1 here
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Did he have any .5cc R/C engines???[>:]

That new job must really be upper crust-Zie hat ihre haar viele kurtz geschitten!

edited for my sloppy 20 year old German grammar skilz
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Great call!

I did pack away his last two .25 bb engines

He hinted that he will do another run.

Talk to David Owen if interested.

I want to discuss a 1cc glow run......anyone?

I have a bunch more photos to get up of his shop and what not.

I think US customs will allow up to $10k usd in import before they get excited.....
If you had a price and a little time to save the cash I would love a 1cc glow! how many do you think he will want to do another run?
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East German Dream.

His beautiful castings were admired by other industries than ours.

His Medical Equipment business - 2 seperate buildings and a third behind his home.

I asked about how he achieves his beautiful castings? He mentioned he went around to jewelers and craftsmen who cast very small objects in his initial learning.
I commented on the 1cc glow engine - that I prefered the rear exhaust over the profi side and his answer was it was rear because it was easier to cast
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I like the guy already. A typical German would have made a 19 piece mold just to prove they could do it and do it well. I can really appreciate a guy who carries himself with an Economy of Motion.

That, and rear exhausts are sexier.
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Here is his line up of .25 cc engines he canabalized to check for porosity in the castings, and various other destructive testing.


They were lined up in perfect order and spacing. I picked one up to look and touch making sure to put it back in the exact same spot and orientation and he reached down and adjusted it.[:-]

His shop is spotless and beyond orderly.

His Hangar is just like ours - spare wings and fuses in every nick and cranny.

I did notice a Hacker B40 (german motor by Ranier Hacker- lecky) in a glider and gave him some grief.

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Zie hat ihre haar viele kurtz geschitten
DD - you doggin my haircut?

I'm told that is what I get for getting it in Sweinfurt - something was lost in the translation

My hiring slogan - "If you want to work in the dirt and not make much money, come work with our company!"
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Really going OT now.

Not without it's perks....

The ultimate sleeper company car

VW Phaeton V10 turbo Diesel -
The fastest I have ever gone without wings - inclusive of wearing full nomex on the track.
This one has the limiter disabled

Even faster & more fun than the Hamburg Girls


The Phaeton was conceived by Ferdinand Piëch, the then chairman of Volkswagen Group. Piëch wanted Volkswagen engineers to create a car that would overwhelmingly surpass the German prestige market leaders, Mercedes-Benz and BMW. The decision to release the Phaeton was, in part, a response to Mercedes's decision to compete directly with Volkswagen in the European marketplace with the low-cost A-Class. It was also intended to support the Volkswagen brand image, since the most expensive versions of lesser models, such as the Golf GTI, were starting to cost almost as much as equivalently-sized prestige brands.

Initial development of the Phaeton, given the internal project code VW611, began with Piëch giving his engineers a list of ten parameters the car needed to fulfill. Most of these specifications were not made known to the public, but a number of them were told to automotive reporters. One of them was that the Phaeton should be capable of being driven all day at 300 kilometres per hour (186 mph) with an exterior temperature of 50 °C (122 °F) whilst maintaining the interior temperature at 22 °C (72 °F). Piëch requested this even though the Phaeton's top speed was electronically limited to 250 kilometres per hour (155.3 mph).[2] Another requirement was that the car should possess torsional rigidity of 37,000 N•m/degree.

The Phaeton's platform, the Volkswagen Group D1 platform, is shared with the Bentley Continental GT and Bentley Continental Flying Spur. Certain systems, such as the transmission and some internal combustion engines, are also shared with the Audi A8. The D1 is a stand-alone steel platform, and was specifically developed for the Phaeton and Bentley Continental. It is commonly confused with Audi's D3 platform, which is an all-aluminium-based, instead of the D1's steel platform.
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Zie hat ihre haar viele kurtz geschitten
DD - you doggin my haircut?

I'm told that is what I get for getting it in Sweinfurt - something was lost in the translation

My hiring slogan - ''If you want to work in the dirt and not make much money, come work with our company!''

Nope, but I'm diggin' your friend's Flectarn jacket-the pattern and colors work very well for your location and time of year.

Get any pictures of Herr Schlosser's shop and equipment? Be really neat to see what he has to work with...
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Thank you RocketRob for sharing your experiences with us. It is so good to know where these engines come from.

You have no idea how big a case of "wannahaves" I am suffering after seeing that 12 cc masterpiece. Just superb!

I do wonder if Herr Schlosser ever had any contact with the Gig Eifflaender or John Oliver. Probably not, given the language barrier. I did have the geat privilege to speak (though only for a short time by telephone) with the late Mr Eifflaender when I lived in Scotland in the late 80's. I even went to Macclesfield on business, where PAW has its works. As I recall it is the rainiest place in the UK.

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Rob,
Any progress with the glow F1* engine production ? Im still interested

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