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Thats all for now BOHO1 you can goto sleep. Its 11 oclock at night in Germany aint it baby? Ill show you the torque cradle a little later. Maybe thats what you are hanging around for. ....Goto bed sweet pea ill talk to you later...


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Hubert

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If you are indeed a German visitor and have a real interest and want to discuss intelligently motor and inverter design your are welcome to a friendly discussion about it in the other thread.

Id welcome that with zero malice. I also encourage it for real learning and a better way to do things.


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I was looking at a CBR1000 SP chassis with the OHLINS electronic suspension format.

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But just so you know Ralph Christian wedge is basically there with the flux guide if you look closely. You could also interpret it as a sharp angle V pole IPM so it depends on the polar orientation on the segmented pm and how many poles it actually is. In the v-pole that's what Tesla did for their segmentation like Lukes engine. Right.

The equipment and TECHNICIANS to load this rotor and not mar the stack is probably hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars.

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This can also be shown:
This is what a rotor with relatively finely segmented magnets and drums for higher speeds looks like.

Rotors were also equipped with multi-part half-axle systems.
This division can also be further refined (5 or 7 part magnets with corresponding alignment of the segments) Such a rotor can be carried out more easily (hollow)
than FLK systems. (Mass inertia of the rotor).
You can also cool it well (if necessary) from the inside. The wave thicknesses used give that.

Usually more phases than just our 3 are used. But this is a separate construction site.

In the case of pressed strand winding, one is repeatedly faced with the dilemma that such a very thin single wire is very often reduced in cross-section or even crushed during pressing. Then you have won nothing.
This info was already open in the work linked by CL on pressing windings.
If you want to make sure that everything has remained okay, you can measure up to several 100 individual wires per conspicuous strand bundle for passage (squeezed) and ohmic resistance (not yet completely squeezed) and reduce the pressing pressure (unwanted) or play Cinderella (extremely complex).

Whereby all this (as with CL) are again quite old and very vague information (NDA),
which can also be collected individually from the famous "papers".

What you gain in the end becomes less and / or more specific compared to the additional effort.
You can't get out of the intersection of the feasible properties, you can only push your respective design center "into another corner."
We have just been shown very impressively on a model engine.

It's the same as always: theory reads and writes easy, its practical implementation has more pitfalls than one generally imagines.
Many tested things never make it to the small series.
Real life is not a colored pencil drawing or a "this is how it could go" rough model in a table vice.

We just play with what we have and what we tinker, should bring with a commercially available model builder (sufficiently) good results or improvements for the respective purpose.

~Powercroco~

More bs! Stop morphing betwwen good enough andf CoFe stators. Whenever you come to your limit that's always the diversion. Maybe its just YOU that's not capable of implementation and your limits are not everyone Elses. That should not be difficult to understand that some people have more than a dirty lathe in their grage.. Powercroco doesn't set the technology bar with his ineptitude.. The general description you read off doesnt tell them anything about the inverter or how the motor works. Implementation of a carbon fiber sleeve is quite easy if the dirty lathe works..

You bring it up because PYRO has already implemented the bell u were suggested years ago. Once again scorpion is no leader..

The proof is all the COTS manufactures have already proven their worth by having higher efficiencies than scorpion which is middle of the pack.

The counselor of wolves does you no service.

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The empiricist never just twisted the wires and ran a simple idle current test in 20 years? Thats pityful. Implementation of whats shown is not beyond reach. Youre limited or youd build an inverter for example. Stop placing or suggesting that all hobbyist have your limits. Thats bs as you can plainly see.

Say it like it is Its too difficult for POWERCROCO to impliment and no one else.

U been up all night reading here. .take a nap baby. Because one minute all those things like twisted wire are gimmicks that dont work. When that doesn't fit then it becomes the gimmicks are not cost effective and to hard to implement when the entire argument is does it work or not. If you want to roll another 20 years with the same old sht then do it and move on....WOW! that's not too difficult to get.

A self admission that the technology is beyond your grasp is the most honest addendum. You should add it.

I was just thinking how eazy it would be to create the rotor simply with Alpha iron and a broach. You are not a machinist Ralph you have no diplomas or certifications in the manufacturing sector.

THATS YOUR LIMIT EXCLUSIVELY. IT IS NOT A PROBLEM THAT I HAVE.

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430 stainless is magnetic and can be annealed to a ferritic matrix. Thats not really difficult . Neither is creating and undersized Mardel to vacuum wrap the cf then part it of fit and press. Thats a preloaded CF retention sleeve. I gave you exact numbers to do this 6 years ago boo boo..

The Castle 90000 rpm drag motor has a stainless sleeve!

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You are sadly mistaken if you think a hobbyist cannot create these or even find one already off a shelf that would work. Do you know how to use that lathe you have boo boo? You need a manual? Like I said I gave you specific under sizing and preload numbers over 6 years ago so i will not do it again. You need the machinist handbook bruh!

Type less listen more! and maybe you wont be so inadequate in manufacture.
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The Lehner already spins 30000 as well and can overspeed by 10% It also has all those other things Do you read the machine specification clearly? Scorpion by your own admission now is the less sophisticated eazy and cheap to make machine.

WOW! what a scorpion promoting post.

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For fun here's Martin Truex from NASCAR Christian. He holds several records in the boats. He runs a great oval line obviously. He knows where to put the boat on the course that makes a huge difference

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"It's the same as always: theory reads and writes easy, its practical implementation has more pitfalls than one generally imagines.
Many tested things never make it to the small series. Real life is not a colored pencil drawing or a "this is how it could go" rough model in a table vice."

~powercroco~

BUT!!! here's the custom winding result vs the factory machine result.



Ja Ja Ja Ralph. Max ETA 81.2% Tragic ! What happened to YOUR empirical theories sweet pea?
70 km/h for 60 amps... Your reply about it in German is that the results were "damn hard to understand.."

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How do you talk about manufacturing cost and charge 600.00 usd for a PAW 42 series outrunner thats hardly top of class in performance but in price it is the bench. U even used the poor dogs "charity" to rake in the $135,000.00 for that series if you sold any.

BTW Ralph do you own any plots that show you actually improved a COTS motor efficiency with your multiple large parallel wire spiel? I have not seen any ever.


Thanks in advance
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Ralph,
When I build an airplane you will see my avatar and nothing else on the high performance fans but Clugh top and bottom. I'm going wait for you sweet pea. Because this is the kind of airplane I'm into. And not really a hot glider. Talega is also much more appropriate for something like this in a real model. Your hot glider does not have my demanded level of power delivery, sophistication in flight control, system cooling, or e motor and drive technology that in my latest boats. Things like this do take time and I'm wasting alot of it with you. The entire ship can be 3d printed in carbon fiber composite...



Regards,
Hubert

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