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03-18-2023, 11:23 AM
#401
Senior Member
Meier111 wrote:
This has something to do with tension-soft and tension-stiff.
Quote from Wikipedia (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transf..._Transformator):Hello,
it's about the stiffness of the motor = speed drop per motor current increase
Greetings
Micha A
~Audiosmith~
Dude! what are you talking about he hasn't disproven Meier or supported you. The dc resistance is the same in the comparative machine dumm ass 1milli and the single layer uses 3% less to generate the the same torque by Kw. The Kt is set by the Kv. The other issue is the Powercroco DELTA ac resistance is 10 times that of the Lehner.
This has something to do with tension-soft and tension-stiff.
Quote from Wikipedia (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transf..._Transformator):Hello,
it's about the stiffness of the motor = speed drop per motor current increase
Greetings
Micha A
Audiosmith
User
Thank you Micha, yes Maier should first understand what this is about before he explains everything and again only distracts from the topic!~Audiosmith~
Dude! what are you talking about he hasn't disproven Meier or supported you. The dc resistance is the same in the comparative machine dumm ass 1milli and the single layer uses 3% less to generate the the same torque by Kw. The Kt is set by the Kv. The other issue is the Powercroco DELTA ac resistance is 10 times that of the Lehner.
Last edited by Clugh; 03-18-2023 at 11:27 AM.
03-18-2023, 11:34 AM
#402
Senior Member
Here's some simple azz motor math Helmut does not disprove ever with the bull**** Thomas has posted.
Audiosmith. is very dense and does not know hes talking about!
Kt =1/Kv
Torque = Kt x amps x Kw
Kt=1/1kv=1
Kt=1
Torque = Kt x 1 amp x (Kw) = 1
Lehner Torque = 1 x 1 amp x (Kw1) = 1
HkII Torque = 1 x 1amp x (Kw.93) = .93
Black Karma =1 x 1 amp x (Kw.96) =.96
7% less torque in the Hk in any situation then its also less efficient. The motor never wins. On paper or anywhere else. These amateur clowns are wasting everyone's time. He has the lowest winding factor and efficiency in the pack.
That post is just plain stupid but u plan to keep posting the same wrong crap misquoting the EE!
Thomas and Ralph please sell your bs to Bundeswehr university. They will never buy it!
ITS TOTAL BS MICHEAL! The hammerless slots, magnet segmentation, and the litz wires on a much higher level than the formula E the guy posted in his own F! thread the Lehner already has incorporated so how is it that the argument not dumm as hell?
The Lehner actual has more. The magnet segmentation is much greater. They are also reverse step which brings a sinus operation which incorporates very well with MGM comp pro.. The spoke pm is not going to do that.
Your ability to absolutely fill the motor forums with incorrect bs is truly second to none.
How could your stiffness be more and he utilizes 7% more of the same copper to generate the torque in a machine that is more efficient from the onstart.
I G N O R A N T !
They will never build an inverter so I can see now I'm wasting my time.
Hubert
Audiosmith. is very dense and does not know hes talking about!
Kt =1/Kv
Torque = Kt x amps x Kw
Kt=1/1kv=1
Kt=1
Torque = Kt x 1 amp x (Kw) = 1
Lehner Torque = 1 x 1 amp x (Kw1) = 1
HkII Torque = 1 x 1amp x (Kw.93) = .93
Black Karma =1 x 1 amp x (Kw.96) =.96
7% less torque in the Hk in any situation then its also less efficient. The motor never wins. On paper or anywhere else. These amateur clowns are wasting everyone's time. He has the lowest winding factor and efficiency in the pack.
That post is just plain stupid but u plan to keep posting the same wrong crap misquoting the EE!
Thomas and Ralph please sell your bs to Bundeswehr university. They will never buy it!
ITS TOTAL BS MICHEAL! The hammerless slots, magnet segmentation, and the litz wires on a much higher level than the formula E the guy posted in his own F! thread the Lehner already has incorporated so how is it that the argument not dumm as hell?
The Lehner actual has more. The magnet segmentation is much greater. They are also reverse step which brings a sinus operation which incorporates very well with MGM comp pro.. The spoke pm is not going to do that.
Your ability to absolutely fill the motor forums with incorrect bs is truly second to none.
How could your stiffness be more and he utilizes 7% more of the same copper to generate the torque in a machine that is more efficient from the onstart.
I G N O R A N T !
They will never build an inverter so I can see now I'm wasting my time.
Hubert
Last edited by Clugh; 03-18-2023 at 12:46 PM.
03-18-2023, 12:47 PM
#403
Senior Member
Well the 3 of us are in here. whats up? U gonna just look or talk Ralph? The Talega based Komar PCB Template and BOM is also here you see it. 476 amperes!
You afraid?
Last edited by Clugh; 03-18-2023 at 12:51 PM.
03-18-2023, 01:44 PM
#404
Senior Member
Hey Rooman! The flying giants threads will be open tomorrow! Absolutely nothing has changed with the post there or my opinion of the Powercroco or Audiosmith.
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Last edited by Clugh; 03-18-2023 at 02:53 PM.
03-18-2023, 02:18 PM
#405
Senior Member
Hi Thomas,
15 KW ? we only start at 30 KW, small turbogenerator with 40000 rpm. Up to 400 KW 35000 rpm synchronized with a Hall probe, no syncloss. Reluctance motors with Dr. Kosta Kanelis up to 60 KW 2000 rpm. Vehicle propulsion up to 600 KW per tire , Marine propulsion up to 2 MW . Flywheel storage from 2 MJ to 8 MJ with 2000 kilogram CFRP flywheel at 180000 rpm, Mach 2 peripheral speed. Once we managed to burn down the wiring harness completely, had to let the test stand rest for a week until everything had subsided. Have you ever driven in a vehicle powered by 8 x 150 KW wheel hub machines? off-road . Have a look that you attend a few lectures and ask Plettenberg why their F3B engine is so fast and why the engine has won more world championships like no other.
in remembrance.
Helmut Schenk died exactly one year ago on 18.03.2022.
Happy Amps ChristianHappy Amp ́s Christian
GO FAST TURN RIGHT AND GET OUT OF MY WAY A
Always distract when it gets tight and again not recognize Helmut's n/n0 engine rule and then remember him, that's really disgusting, really go to the doctor!
15 KW ? we only start at 30 KW, small turbogenerator with 40000 rpm. Up to 400 KW 35000 rpm synchronized with a Hall probe, no syncloss. Reluctance motors with Dr. Kosta Kanelis up to 60 KW 2000 rpm. Vehicle propulsion up to 600 KW per tire , Marine propulsion up to 2 MW . Flywheel storage from 2 MJ to 8 MJ with 2000 kilogram CFRP flywheel at 180000 rpm, Mach 2 peripheral speed. Once we managed to burn down the wiring harness completely, had to let the test stand rest for a week until everything had subsided. Have you ever driven in a vehicle powered by 8 x 150 KW wheel hub machines? off-road . Have a look that you attend a few lectures and ask Plettenberg why their F3B engine is so fast and why the engine has won more world championships like no other.
in remembrance.
Helmut Schenk died exactly one year ago on 18.03.2022.
Happy Amps ChristianHappy Amp ́s Christian
GO FAST TURN RIGHT AND GET OUT OF MY WAY A
Audiosmith
User
You always show off this show-off, is really poor-throated!Always distract when it gets tight and again not recognize Helmut's n/n0 engine rule and then remember him, that's really disgusting, really go to the doctor!
03-18-2023, 02:19 PM
#406
Senior Member
There is nothing tight for us about your post audiosmith they are no more than humorous.at best. People pass away just like my friend James but regardless Helmut Schenk is no author of any motor rule. And you were told long ago to stop using his name in vein because he has never taught anyone including you that the dl is a better machine. Ur leading them on with another fable signing his name to it just like you did when you told the forum the 320 could do more that 16 khz. Do you remember that post then when its TIGHT you request Gerd lock them out of the thread. Nothing is more sick than you continuing to lie to the boys and drag it out to save face. Youve never ran halls or an outrunner or with the YGE so you dont know what it will do.
You lost! and should finally tune in to the "laboratory technicians" U tube channels to learn.
You lost! and should finally tune in to the "laboratory technicians" U tube channels to learn.
Last edited by Clugh; 03-18-2023 at 02:38 PM.
03-18-2023, 02:43 PM
#407
Senior Member
So the larger picture is Helmut is another genius gone while you argue versus build.
A waste of his gift!
Weve went to all the Drs. and they all tell us the same thing. You are wrong.
Regards
Hubert
A waste of his gift!
Weve went to all the Drs. and they all tell us the same thing. You are wrong.
Regards
Hubert
Last edited by Clugh; 03-18-2023 at 02:50 PM.
03-18-2023, 03:34 PM
#408
Senior Member
Meier111
User
audiosmith schrieb:Aber wenn wir doch schon so schön am Plaudern sind, erklär mir doch bitte warum der viel gelobte 4140 nach deinen Angaben so ein extrem weiches Drehzahlverhalten hat, wodurch das versprochende Eta garnicht erreicht werden kann?Das hat was mit spannungsweich und spannungssteif zu tun.
Zitat aus Wikipedia (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transf..._Transformator):Transformatoren mit hoher Kurzschlussspannung heißen spannungsweich, solche mit niedriger Kurzschlussspannung heißen spannungssteif.Auch bei Trafos sinkt der Wirkungsgrad, wenn sie spannungsweich sind.
Wer keine Lust hat zu wissen, wie ein Transformator funktioniert, braucht sich nicht wundern, wenn er beim Motor die Grundlagen nicht versteht.
Ein Elektrotechniker muss sich immer zuerst mit Transformatoren beschäftigen, bevor ihm was vom Motor erzählt wird.
Die ersten drei Sätze sind schon fundamental wichtig. Die muss man verstanden haben.
Und das ist erst der Anfang der Geschichte...
~Meier111~
Last edited by Clugh; 03-18-2023 at 03:46 PM.
03-18-2023, 03:39 PM
#409
Senior Member
"Auch bei Trafos sinkt der Wirkungsgrad, wenn sie spannungsweich sind.
Wer keine Lust hat zu wissen, wie ein Transformator funktioniert, braucht sich nicht wundern, wenn er beim Motor die Grundlagen nicht versteht."
~Meier111~
Last edited by Clugh; 03-18-2023 at 03:47 PM.
03-18-2023, 04:11 PM
#412
Senior Member
Look what happens with this bipolar SL winds harmonics when you goto a 4 layer asymmetric wind and cascaded bridge.
Last edited by Clugh; 03-18-2023 at 04:17 PM.
03-18-2023, 04:14 PM
#413
Senior Member
Then in 4 layers look what happens to the two pole which is what eats the rotors magnets and generates the copper proximity. The leakage inductance is much lower with this machine.
03-18-2023, 04:21 PM
#415
Senior Member
Originally Posted by combatpigg
Not impressed.
Try working with 500 MCM copper...then get back to me.
Try working with 500 MCM copper...then get back to me.
Not at all about impressions but proof of the tangible science behind the wind..
Last edited by Clugh; 03-18-2023 at 04:30 PM.
03-19-2023, 03:41 AM
#418
Senior Member
Nice photos!
Anyways.
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Last edited by Clugh; 03-19-2023 at 03:55 AM.
03-19-2023, 05:08 AM
#421
Senior Member
A gift for the hate troops
Itz ready to mill and drill everything on point including the thermal vias sweet pea
Luv,
Hubert
Last edited by Clugh; 03-19-2023 at 05:18 AM.
03-20-2023, 04:37 AM
#424
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Dec 27, 2019, 06:40 PM Hummina
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The Dr that created this that WE ALL FOLLOW is wrong according to Ralph and Thomas first of all.
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Why LRK shows higher winding factor than DLRK w 12n14p
The Dr that created this that WE ALL FOLLOW is wrong according to Ralph and Thomas first of all.
Last edited by Clugh; 03-20-2023 at 04:41 AM.
03-20-2023, 04:41 AM
#425
Senior Member
Hi Humina,
have a closer look. See that the original LRK winding has allways only the statorteeth that belong to a phase has the same position under the magnets like the other statortooth. So the rising of the electromagnetic induction is at the same time . DLRK has different position of the stator tooth to the magnets. So the induction starts first in one of the statorteeth and 30 degre later in the folowing statorteeth . As the belong to the same phase the induction volts are lower and not running in time. This is a mix max that is less efficancy , has lower winding factor .
Try the best and wind LRK the SPS winding system.
Happy Amps Christian
have a closer look. See that the original LRK winding has allways only the statorteeth that belong to a phase has the same position under the magnets like the other statortooth. So the rising of the electromagnetic induction is at the same time . DLRK has different position of the stator tooth to the magnets. So the induction starts first in one of the statorteeth and 30 degre later in the folowing statorteeth . As the belong to the same phase the induction volts are lower and not running in time. This is a mix max that is less efficancy , has lower winding factor .
Try the best and wind LRK the SPS winding system.
Happy Amps Christian
