Clugh

Now that you have the facts about our single layer motors . Here are two of the most motor idiotic threads you will ever read about them online authored by POWERCROCO the counselor of wolves that clearly does not know what hes talking about he just jealous that our efficiency is much higher and idle current much lower than anything he winds.

He should face that and accept it versus do this equipped with not an ounce of contradictive data . His friends hitting the report button wont change anything.

Regards,
Hubert


Align 700mx | RC-Network.de

Lehner 4125/4140 | RC-Network.de

Clugh

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...3#post49164283

Here he is again with his helmut explanation. Its ashame he tries to rely on one Dipl Eng Chiristian and I both are ENGINEERS

No matter how much Raplh cries about it the numbers are calculated based on recorded constants that's why he's so concerned with Christians resis tance which u see is indeed 1 mili and this is the same reason he or Louis hasn't reported any constants in about 3 months posting " better"

Motor manufactures put constants in calculator and he can compare our motors in any cal he chooses he gains no ground in any particular calculator. Anyone with intelligence could deduce that so I won't worry about him continuing to embarass himself.

Seems to me he's obsessed with our machines. He's and endless loop . In his Align thread he was to rewind my motor and prove it wasn't real then said he didn't need to because your friend toros motor the wrong kv 12 Winder was better. 1.6mm in the appropriate 7 turns is severely worse Once again u have been given a very detailed explanation why he is incorrect in many others things as well. All anyone has to do to shake up the thread is ask him what the eta is.

They wont......lol

Clugh

5.15 milliohm with connectors. If you want u can tell Ralph what u saw here. You see my motor connected. We're done where are his real measurement photos? We have presented ours. This meter is fresh out the box and calibrated TODAY! Just so u could see his theory is only his. No engineers we know share it. We never need to lie about or numbers or timings. That's what he does to stay relevant.

Regards,
Hubert

Clugh

"Kurz gesagt:
"Das ist alles nur kopiert und zwar von mir".
Und das ganze restliche Geschwurbel drumrum.

Leider stecken heutzutage immer wenige der Mitleser tief genug in der Materie und CL's "gezielte Ungenauigkeiten" zu erkennen.
Die lege ich, wo immer sie mir auffallen, offen.
Wenn ich da keinen Input mehr bekomme, werde ich auch nix dazu schreiben können.........

Zu berichten, über das, was ich selber mache und was ganz real exisiert und rumfliegt und rumschwimmt (nicht nur im pool) reicht mir völlig

Das älteste was ich in diesem Forum zum Thema gefunden habe, stammt von 2007.
Damals gab es auch noch keine LRK-Wicklung, sondern die klare Ansage: "Der LRK bedient sich der SPS-Bewicklung."
Erst später wurde "per assimilationem" sogar die Standardbewicklung zum "verteilten LRK".

Und jetzt versuche ich erstmal aufzuklären, welche Leerlaufdrehzahl der 4125-5 wirklich hat.
Vielleicht hat ja sogar jemand einen und kann mit echten Daten helfen! (U und rpm und Reglertiming reichen)"
This is unlikely as a reason because knowing is simple. Lehner states 10% more for free load and we see here the measured phase resistance for the 4125 /5 is 1 milli. The free load Kv is 1,993. Does he need Helmut to calculate 10 % of 1812 plus 1812? Thats 5th grade math. He wont write anything else because he told all of you 1 milliohm didn't fit Lehner data and as you can see without a doubt he's wrong! You may report this post to the moderators because he tried to determine the slot fill and resistance with a pair of micrometers

Regards
Hubert

Clugh

A Hioki milliohm meter cost more than your plane. There is only dual layer winding that generates more torque than a single layer and that's the y-d hybrid. Ralph is at terminal velocity with yy's u need more torque to go faster. If he wont impliment more iron he has to change the winding topology.Hybrids are the beat of the best. He wont provide u any REAL information otherwise.There are no supportive groups to his theories. He's all alone.

Clugh

Well... the censorship didnt work so all these facts an answers and photos about the motors will be post on Flying Giants at approximately 10 am! Good luck on RCN that links you directly to it. I know u told him but now he will face it on the forums for everyone to see. Itz him that has misinformed you about Lehner and the other motor manufactures. You will never hit 580-600 kph Hidde mark with a powercroco motor.

As u see in the thread I have not and will not erase anything I said about him or his click.

This includes that his ETA is still below ours! No matter how much they strike the yellow triangle!

Good luck with it....as u see his post have stopped dead in their tracks. This counselor of wolves Is full of overcite.
Regards

Hubert.

Clugh

https://www.rc-network.de/threads/le...#post-12418210

And so u see your friend has issues as now he argues with the discrete diagnostics. RALPH JUST CaNT ACCEPT HE DOES NOT WIN. SO DESPERATE HES CREATED A TROLL ACCOUNT THATS SUSPENDED HERE IN THE USA

Clugh

Our constants speak for themselves. When will he post some??? Were waiting Micheal a long time! I'm not in a "series".

Clugh

And now he's here....lol maybe he will speak since he's not suspended here.??? Where are your numbers BOHO1 ? LOL!

Clugh

Where are your measured constants please... and it looks like your friendship with sebastian didn't last long. Watercooling?? Lol !

Regards,
Hubert

Clugh

Michael we cool directly the air gap these days which increases the thermal conductivity from the core to the shell over 400 %.

These inventions they speak of are quite antiquated in fact. By way of currie effect a recirculating system that passes the fluid by a cooled sink needs no pump.

Clugh

Woo....CLUGH can offer more than just a better winding arrangement. There's so much more. We can impliment cryogenic cooling directly to the windings the stator and the passive recirculative airgap cooling system for full integration. Even WELC is no issue. We can do it today. It is not an idea for us. We bring those to life.


Regards,
Hubert

Clugh

HI Micheal,
It is too bad that the amateurs don't understand any linear regression he's constructed using lehners resistance points is a line of best fit. It does not mean that that predictive y line values at any x hits every data point to the exact value that would be diagnostically measured. The MD needs to stick to chemistry. At what point does the banter become invalid? He hasn't landed on a single fact in quite some time. I can also assure u this over zealous enigma only regressed one type of line and never compared itz "r" or deviation from the actual measured points to the others. That said he wouldn't even know if his entire predictive line is even truly the one of best fit. Ralph is a perp. Because he also has not provided the line function from which his big mouth speaks.At some point if you and your friends know any better you should get tired of listening to it and tell him to start providing constants with his motors like scorpion does.

Regards
Hubert

Clugh

The ban on Christian Lucas is not going to hide the fact about the 4125 and 4140 series Lehner being better than a scorpion. That's what the data shows. All the back door maneuvers with Gerd only exasperated the ideas that it's to protect the interest of the inferior product and their personally invested interest in it. That's pretty obvious because the factual and technical debate was moot at the recording of the constants. He's last. And of course no one with him in their nose wants to hear that. Kunzke just pines fir credit for doing something but he hasn't done anything. He talks about water cooling but has never rewound a motor so u know there isn't an iota of water cooling data in his files. It's just more speculation to be part of a discussion he truly has no hand in. He's not a reminder and has not rewound anything.he brought up old ideas already tried and shelved like the 3-1 assymetric wind. It was his proposal to the hybrids. We wound it and tested it 6 years ago . Since then he's discovered it in the last 3. Never wound it never ran it just unfounded spam.



He's talking in the motor winding threads but has never rewound a motor. For me that's problematic. He does not work with Christian or I. Be careful with his advice and ideas poorly copied from me. He needs to try his first rewind before he becomes the expert. if he complains I'll show u all the things he has not examined with cooling the machines.

Regards
Hubert

Clugh

Merry Christmas to all those who still (re)wind and/or tune engines themselves!
~powercroco ~
I see Ralph makes fun sebastian is inherently left out in this greeting.....what happened to the EU? Lol!

Clugh

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Clugh

Hi Micheal
I know Ralph did not tell you I beta tested the APD at Daimler before he knew what one was. Here is the prototype. Since the controller is much more advanced than his Bernard 320 yge you should purchase the betaflight card for your inverter impliment the single layer winding and use the low pass filtering option at the inverter. You also need to learn about the feed forward capabilities. Ralph can't help you here....see that?

The prototype didn't even have THE APD PRO silkscreening yet.

Ralph does not know AJ or Tony Michael. He nor the forums knew what the inverter was Mike. Ask him what the truth is.

All Your friends will be here now Micheal to learn how to use the low pass filter to help attenuate modal vibrations to the core...which theoretically would have to affect a consistent gap.The counselor of wolves is not yet ready to play in my sandbox Micheal.
Regards
Hubert

Clugh

The same thing can be done with blheli32 inverter architecture so if you can build a big bridge for the logic that's also cool. There is a market. Of course blheli is six step so again u do the LRK. Simon on rcheli.de is the blheli programming guru with the blheli32 e tail kraken. Christian Lucas can link you. I also have his fb page.

Clugh

https://oscarliang.com/betaflight-filtering/

The MEMS device I explained in detail on the Futaba GYA-553 gyro thread. They measure the vibration with it. With the erpm tach in conjunction I believe they implement a majority function algorithm in the ST mcu to create the filter . The capability for motor filtering is at your fingertips. The Tribunus software may also be capable through its drone integration options.

Regards,
Hubert

Clugh

• Thursday at 5:27 p.m

• #335

Many thanks to Michael for the link:
https://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/...postcount=1363
Now we already have 3 resistance values ​​for the 4125-5:
The initially claimed 1.00mOhm from CL
The measured 1.16mOhm from CL (+16%) ( Post #141 )
And the 1.065mOhm on the picture. apparently also sent to America by CL (+6.5%) Although this is a really good device that not everyone has lying around.

let's see what else is to come in terms of information.

I don't believe the 3.83 mOhm specified in the link for the 4125-10 anyway.
Find the mistake.....

It's also a fact:
Such greatly differing information from third parties is of course damaging to the manufacturer's business.
Sebastian is absolutely right about that.
Something like that should be avoided as much as possible, especially if you want to give yourself the air of objectivity.

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Ralph


I know you are showing him what I tell you from his own words so if you want to respond its OK. He's also in the room already. I never spoke to you on flying giants so he doesn't have to keep being dishonest

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Regards,
Hubert

Clugh

Hi Micheal

Since I Know you're telling him what I post here please share this even though he or one of his looney friends is already in the room here as "boho1".


Ralph you should calculate the 3 ideal stall values from your words and see how much that will affect the max eta calculaton for maxons eq 1 92.

From this u can determine the value of your accessment. At .000065 additional ohms

Clugh

Have you truly looked at the other options at the weight of a powercroco engine.? They seem to be severely lacking in torque compared to other high end manufactures like Plettenberg for instance.

Clugh

Truly his concern should be with the scorpions he winds. why a 7455 only specs at 5.2 Nm when other motors in it class do 3 to 4 times that ? He's ignored the question.

And to answer Ralphs question has Christian congratulated me I can tell him absolutely yes he has but when is Ralph going to congratulate me since his 4225 is no where close in efficiency .

Clugh

For a heat sink designs check out alphanovatech.com

Clugh

Hello

I would first like to add my good wishes for Christmas and the New Year.

The possibilities of improvement through metal sheets and their cutting seem to have been exhausted, as well as the winding.
What I still need is an improvement of the magnetic circuit.
This affects the material and the cover, how far the magnets can be further magnetized during operation, which leads to a very strong drop in speed.
With my 2010 engines, that was already over 10% (verified with a measuring coil) and well under 100 A.
If the mags could only be slightly magnetized further, the speed loss would be lower.
So how do the magnetic materials behave during motor operation.
Also noticed that the bell heated up a lot during the apprenticeship, which could be attributed to fluctuations in the magnetic field.
Can this be improved with a short-circuit winding around the magnets (I think it was also discussed once).
With an aluminum basket as a spacer into which the magnets are glued.
Made of aluminum tube with lasered recesses.
That's my bad thoughts.

Greetings Aloys.

Nothing has been exhausted in the wi ding but the yy dlrk. The hybrid reduces rotor losses to almost none. Without any amendments to the cut the winding topology alone can do that in am 18 slot or 24 slot machine. You must accommodate the 5 or 7 alpha shift. The only hybrid single layer is mine and if anyone actually understands waveforms they will know an assymetric saw tooth is definitive confirmation the ceratain harmonics have been attenuated.

Regards,
Hubert