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03-22-2023, 10:41 AM
#501
Senior Member
this is the best advertisement for Kontronik.
In addition, Kontronik will not go on sale with the new internal rotor Projekt One with poor performance data. Name: biggrin.gif
Without clever and independent measurements, I would not pay 800 euros just for one engine.
Greetings
Micha
03-22-2023, 10:43 AM
#502
Senior Member
Well if they are clever like Powercroco they might lie! and someone might believe it! I personally don't think they have really a clugh about electronics because all they ever had to do was compare the measured constants of the comparative power systems in any calculator they would like...
Last edited by Clugh; 03-22-2023 at 10:56 AM.
03-22-2023, 10:57 AM
#503
Senior Member
This math was always valid for comparison you just decided to take all the forums through 1000s of lies , ad hominem, and bs! to block the truth.
"ITS DAMN HARD TO UNDESTAND!"
03-22-2023, 11:03 AM
#504
Senior Member
If you enjoy your work, it is sometimes quite fast to build an engine.
If necessary, fortunately, I still have enough spare parts from the good old days to make an exchange winding at very short notice, if the planned setup should prove to be suboptimal.
I don't have to cut or recycle anything.
After I heard what would voluntarily go to the shelter, I promised the future owner to do it "for free" if the worst came to the worst.
~powercroco~
The "Scorpion Knockers" | Page 13 | RC-Network.de
Hurry and everyone run hes giving the "sub optimal" motors away for free now after my PAW post if worst comes to worst!
50 minutes ago
Since he always comparing to the Lehner he could up his efficiency and reduce his price by 160 euro!
Clearly since you have PC hanging off the nose of your planes you are the brightest and most informed consumers!!!
the last "giveaway" collected 135,000.00 USD @ 600 euros a pop!
The tax write off for them does not translate to any savings for the consumer.
That said...If I was going to donate my money this way it would be on the millions HUMANS who never had a covid shot and are starving and homeless daily. To some dogs are more important than people but not me. They will spend 600 euros on average efficiency but wont hand the homeless 5 dollars at a stop light.
TTYL Micheal
Ralph is special...
Regards,
Hubert
If necessary, fortunately, I still have enough spare parts from the good old days to make an exchange winding at very short notice, if the planned setup should prove to be suboptimal.
I don't have to cut or recycle anything.
After I heard what would voluntarily go to the shelter, I promised the future owner to do it "for free" if the worst came to the worst.
~powercroco~
The "Scorpion Knockers" | Page 13 | RC-Network.de
Hurry and everyone run hes giving the "sub optimal" motors away for free now after my PAW post if worst comes to worst!
50 minutes ago
Since he always comparing to the Lehner he could up his efficiency and reduce his price by 160 euro!
Clearly since you have PC hanging off the nose of your planes you are the brightest and most informed consumers!!!
the last "giveaway" collected 135,000.00 USD @ 600 euros a pop!
The tax write off for them does not translate to any savings for the consumer.
That said...If I was going to donate my money this way it would be on the millions HUMANS who never had a covid shot and are starving and homeless daily. To some dogs are more important than people but not me. They will spend 600 euros on average efficiency but wont hand the homeless 5 dollars at a stop light.
TTYL Micheal
Ralph is special...
Regards,
Hubert
Last edited by Clugh; 03-22-2023 at 11:26 AM.
03-22-2023, 11:29 AM
#505
Senior Member
With Christian
I can spend 450 Euros for the better motor and send the other 150 to charities I deem worthy. I dont need Ralph Okon to chose what causes I decide to champion at 600 euros for an average eta. You high as hell bros.
I can spend 450 Euros for the better motor and send the other 150 to charities I deem worthy. I dont need Ralph Okon to chose what causes I decide to champion at 600 euros for an average eta. You high as hell bros.
03-22-2023, 11:35 AM
#506
Senior Member
He showed some indigenous charities in Asia but then what do they pay the Asian girls to wind the machines with the bundle in hand which they sell the most of. ???? see its BS! Right....
The additional 135 thousand should have been donated to them!
Ralph's made a killing! hes not paying for any of those raw materials. Hes reduced himself to dishonesty and skewing the result to retain all the extra income.
The additional 135 thousand should have been donated to them!
Ralph's made a killing! hes not paying for any of those raw materials. Hes reduced himself to dishonesty and skewing the result to retain all the extra income.
Last edited by Clugh; 03-22-2023 at 11:46 AM.
03-22-2023, 02:09 PM
#509
Senior Member
When it gets serious Michael this in a higher grade would have a controlled nitrogen atmosphere. That ensures beautiful bright solder joints. This size is perfect for the DIY hobbyist and prototypes.
03-22-2023, 02:29 PM
#510
Senior Member
Pavel Kirienko
Has confirmed its correctness. I have a few more things to grab like COMPONENTS
solder paste etc. But this can be done by a modeler!
Last edited by Clugh; 03-22-2023 at 02:48 PM.
03-22-2023, 02:49 PM
#511
Senior Member
Sorry I had posted the wrong PCB revision. Its corrected now. for the 22 guest currently in here from Germany Flying giant and various other social mediums posed as higher learning centers for the hobbyist. But all they learned is mayhem in the face of real sharing... I'm a hobbyist and didnt learn anything in those places .
Last edited by Clugh; 03-22-2023 at 02:57 PM.
03-22-2023, 03:01 PM
#512
Senior Member
03-22-2023, 03:42 PM
#513
Senior Member
On my heart of hearts If Ralph Okon or anyone he knows can come here to America with his "superknockers" in a fast electric boat and beat me or my speeds he can have everything that I have ever shown you! Im really not trying to be funny but you can bring a friggin real turbine if you want to.. Im going into the lab for a month or two and I will see you on the other side and wait for you to meet this challenge for an eternity. I mean what I say. You can have all my modeling equipment every model every inverter every motor and every tool. I promise you I sleep eazy as hell every night! I have a million performance cakes I can bake for a cat like you. You know better! Ha!
Love you always,
Hubert
Love you always,
Hubert
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03-24-2023, 11:28 AM
#515
Senior Member
Ich weiß, du hasst Christian, aber stell dir vor, Powercroco könnte so etwas bauen oder veröffentlichen. Daumen hoch von seinen Götzendienern würde ihn in den Weltraum schießen. Sie können die Dreiecksforen den ganzen Tag hassen und stark beeinflussen, aber wie ich schon sagte, er wird niemals die USA regieren.
Erzählen Sie mir noch einmal, was er und Thomas über einen Motor oder digitale Kommutierungsverbesserungen wissen? Sie lesen nicht einmal Anwendungshinweise.
Ich lache laut.
Grüße,
Hubert
Last edited by Clugh; 03-24-2023 at 11:33 AM.
03-24-2023, 02:39 PM
#516
Senior Member
Hi Ralph,
When Im done you and the squirrel will need more than "spring cleaning". Happy Viewing!
Regards,
Hubert
Last edited by Clugh; 03-24-2023 at 03:09 PM.
03-25-2023, 05:41 AM
#517
Senior Member
Die "Skorpionklopfer" | Seite 13 | RC-Network.de
This is very .boring Ralph... the same old conventional YY's that touched 500 km/h but the sport does nearly 600k/h now.the performance numbers are the same now as the were then. Just post the constants on the 100 year old winding tech.
Clearly you see the 40% reduction in the 2 pole harmonic and the 6% boost in the 5th and 7th which mean 6% higher winding factor which places it beyond the SL.
Do you all there in Germany know how to read data? Each graduated increment is approx. 2% Do you also realize this reduces the leakage inductance which drives the idle current down?
Do you realize it makes more torque has a better winding factor better power factor and higher efficiency? I realize you all over 10 years do not know w t f you are talking about and haven't built or wound anything new in over 10 years. I don't know how you are deemed a Guru because you cant do more than a "laboratory equipment technician" in 10. Alll you all do is stalk, argue, and be wrong about while actuating chairs at the University of Bundeswehr Dieter Gerling and Dr. Dajuku Guraquk subscribe.....
Are you competent to subscribe medication? Because u seem to have difficulty interpreting data and measuring units.
This is very .boring Ralph... the same old conventional YY's that touched 500 km/h but the sport does nearly 600k/h now.the performance numbers are the same now as the were then. Just post the constants on the 100 year old winding tech.
Clearly you see the 40% reduction in the 2 pole harmonic and the 6% boost in the 5th and 7th which mean 6% higher winding factor which places it beyond the SL.
Do you all there in Germany know how to read data? Each graduated increment is approx. 2% Do you also realize this reduces the leakage inductance which drives the idle current down?
Do you realize it makes more torque has a better winding factor better power factor and higher efficiency? I realize you all over 10 years do not know w t f you are talking about and haven't built or wound anything new in over 10 years. I don't know how you are deemed a Guru because you cant do more than a "laboratory equipment technician" in 10. Alll you all do is stalk, argue, and be wrong about while actuating chairs at the University of Bundeswehr Dieter Gerling and Dr. Dajuku Guraquk subscribe.....
Are you competent to subscribe medication? Because u seem to have difficulty interpreting data and measuring units.
Last edited by Clugh; 03-25-2023 at 06:21 AM.
03-25-2023, 06:07 AM
#518
Senior Member
In fact they were modest about it because the only reported a 3.5% increase but you can clearly count 6%. Can you all read? What the 5 alpha shift would do on the 24 slot 10 pole is reduce the 7th and highlight only the 5th the 7 alpha shift would do the same for the 14 pole. You are the fool because the wind would help to allow YOU all the parallel strands youd obviously like to run as it reduces the leakage inductance guru! The problem must be the Guru can not calculate and configure the wires correctly!
You are the flussperren and the building limits are all yours!
You are certainly on the high performance dial at 93.5% FM! for 600.00 euro!
You are a marketing genius!
You are the flussperren and the building limits are all yours!
You are certainly on the high performance dial at 93.5% FM! for 600.00 euro!
You are a marketing genius!
Last edited by Clugh; 03-25-2023 at 06:19 AM.
03-25-2023, 06:23 AM
#519
Senior Member
Das einzige, was mich mehr erstaunt als Ihre Seite, sind die vielen Götzendiener, die sich selbst als schlau bezeichnen und daran glauben! Es ist, als würden Sie alle auf Gerds Bericht zu Projekt 1 warten, aber die Daten sind bereits in Ecalc! der weltbeste Online-Rechner. Was brauchen Sie? Gerd, um es zu verzerren? Du bist nicht schlau, wenn du ohne Gerd Giese kein Rechenapplet fahren kannst! Sie klingen wie inkompetente Idioten und Lakaien, die darauf warten, dass jemand anderes Ihnen die Antwort direkt ins Gesicht sagt. Ihr seid Groupies von Männern, schätze ich.
Mach weiter und mach noch mehr Narren aus dir. Alles, was Sie jemals brauchten, waren die Konstanten, das ist alles, was er in den Taschenrechner eingibt.
Du musst dumm sein.
Mach weiter und mach noch mehr Narren aus dir. Alles, was Sie jemals brauchten, waren die Konstanten, das ist alles, was er in den Taschenrechner eingibt.
Du musst dumm sein.
Last edited by Clugh; 03-25-2023 at 06:32 AM.
03-25-2023, 06:41 AM
#520
Senior Member
Maxon ETA calculation eq 1.92
Solch eine exklusive Gruppe von Intellektuellen sollte in der Lage sein, diesen Scheiß zu begreifen! Der von Ihnen verwendete Rechner wird an dem Vergleich nichts ändern. Hör auf, die offensichtlich Unwissenden anzulügen!
The calculators consider more than the motor they are prop calculation applets!
Last edited by Clugh; 03-25-2023 at 06:45 AM.
03-25-2023, 06:48 AM
#521
Senior Member
To compare Christian and Ralph motor at a glance is eazy if the stall current is the same...
All you have to look at is the idle current then.
U have to be stupid! If you have listened to this bs for 10 years and know no better! How is it that you claim to know something about a motor then?
All you have to look at is the idle current then.
U have to be stupid! If you have listened to this bs for 10 years and know no better! How is it that you claim to know something about a motor then?
03-25-2023, 07:02 AM
#522
Senior Member
Ralph must be a peddler or pervitin because anyone with good sense knows an idle current of 18 amperes is really quite phenomenal and without a doubt certainly points to poor ac performance. The comparative motors sit around 3 amperes of idle current. There is really nothing to compare for anyone that truly knows as they claim.
03-25-2023, 11:11 AM
#523
Senior Member
"Solch eine exklusive Gruppe von Intellektuellen sollte in der Lage sein, diesen Scheiß zu begreifen! Der von Ihnen verwendete Rechner wird an dem Vergleich nichts ändern. Hör auf, die offensichtlich Unwissenden anzulügen!"
Lehner 4125/4140 | Seite 21 | RC-Network.de
Dumm!!!
Stop grasping for straws!!!
it has absolutely nothing toe do with the comparison where your motor is less efficient than his and has a 7% lower wind factor. I told you you have issue. U cannot accept the facts.
Keep looking Ralph because your motors will not improve. Thats clear. In case you haven't noticed they have to lowest efficiency.
we covered it all u waste another 20 of your years. U need a manual bro! and I see you cannot wind anything different.
Limited.
LOL...
Lehner 4125/4140 | Seite 21 | RC-Network.de
Dumm!!!
Stop grasping for straws!!!
it has absolutely nothing toe do with the comparison where your motor is less efficient than his and has a 7% lower wind factor. I told you you have issue. U cannot accept the facts.
Keep looking Ralph because your motors will not improve. Thats clear. In case you haven't noticed they have to lowest efficiency.
we covered it all u waste another 20 of your years. U need a manual bro! and I see you cannot wind anything different.
Limited.
LOL...
Last edited by Clugh; 03-25-2023 at 11:13 AM.
03-25-2023, 11:15 AM
#524
Senior Member
Lehner 4125/4140 | Seite 21 | RC-Network.de
Dumm!!!
Stop grasping for straws!!!
The beginning
of their data sheet has absolutely nothing toe do with the comparison where your motor is less efficient than his and has a 7% lower wind factor. I told you you have issue. U cannot accept the facts. Do you have an advantage at that data point youd like to share there? LOL
Keep looking Ralph because your motors will not improve. Thats clear. In case you haven't noticed they have to lowest efficiency.
we covered it all u waste another 20 of your years. U need a manual bro! and I see you cannot wind anything different.
Limited.
enjoy those goofy threads. where people need Gerd to enter clearly posted constants in a calculator.
Keep laying in the mud because this is much more important thna the zero point in Lehners sheet which is backed up by numerous world records. U dont know much to compare them in the first place.
maybe your friends cannot accept it but you dont have anything special!
Enjoy your self regenerating the same post that do not raise your efficiency over the Lehner.
LOL...
Dumm!!!
Stop grasping for straws!!!
The beginning
of their data sheet has absolutely nothing toe do with the comparison where your motor is less efficient than his and has a 7% lower wind factor. I told you you have issue. U cannot accept the facts. Do you have an advantage at that data point youd like to share there? LOL
Keep looking Ralph because your motors will not improve. Thats clear. In case you haven't noticed they have to lowest efficiency.
we covered it all u waste another 20 of your years. U need a manual bro! and I see you cannot wind anything different.
Limited.
enjoy those goofy threads. where people need Gerd to enter clearly posted constants in a calculator.
Keep laying in the mud because this is much more important thna the zero point in Lehners sheet which is backed up by numerous world records. U dont know much to compare them in the first place.
maybe your friends cannot accept it but you dont have anything special!
Enjoy your self regenerating the same post that do not raise your efficiency over the Lehner.
LOL...
Last edited by Clugh; 03-25-2023 at 11:25 AM.
03-25-2023, 11:40 AM
#525
Senior Member
Christian,
On the forums there. Do they have anything constructive to do? This volley is quite ineffective when it comes to building something new. While they argue like girls on the forum Im still doing things like yard work and building things. Not only do they talk too much they are lazy. Just keep going in circles and reliving old machines. I mean its not like it will stop me from finishing Clugh's Project One. This entire time they have made zero progress in raising the power system efficiency or a real way to measure it. Why not step into reality? They not doing anything but typing....
On the forums there. Do they have anything constructive to do? This volley is quite ineffective when it comes to building something new. While they argue like girls on the forum Im still doing things like yard work and building things. Not only do they talk too much they are lazy. Just keep going in circles and reliving old machines. I mean its not like it will stop me from finishing Clugh's Project One. This entire time they have made zero progress in raising the power system efficiency or a real way to measure it. Why not step into reality? They not doing anything but typing....
Last edited by Clugh; 03-25-2023 at 11:52 AM.
