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#626
Senior Member


Audiosht chose a THEORHETICAL voltage that put his frequency in a better place for his poor ratio losses the problem is the current output demanded at the voltage is very unreal in hobby so now they sit there dumb with nothing to say. These moments come all to often for a "Guru"
Last edited by Clugh; 03-29-2023 at 11:38 AM.
#627
Senior Member

"Alternative solutions for mitigating the proximity losses have been proposed twisted wires, winding arrangement with flat rectangular wire placed along the slot leakage-flux lines, reduced slot fill factor with copper wires pushed within the slots further away from the slot opening region."
~Mircea Popescu,Senior Member, IEEE
, David A. Staton,Member, IEEE,
David G. Dorrell Senior Member, IEEE
and Doulas Hawkins ~
Weve never been wrong. Powercroco and the truth bender just continue to lie to you and you continue to buy 93% at 600 euros! Those are the facts.
Happy Modeling
Regards
Hubert
~Mircea Popescu,Senior Member, IEEE
, David A. Staton,Member, IEEE,
David G. Dorrell Senior Member, IEEE
and Doulas Hawkins ~
Weve never been wrong. Powercroco and the truth bender just continue to lie to you and you continue to buy 93% at 600 euros! Those are the facts.
Happy Modeling
Regards
Hubert
Last edited by Clugh; 03-29-2023 at 11:50 AM.
#628
Senior Member

people that get excited at such Declarations about the scrap iron 4225 like Gerd shows me he is no engineer at all. He should know by a glance at the constants that there is no real calculator or real test in the world that would put Ralph first in anything but losses and technical oversite.
the "AMPGerd" will have his hand on his hips a long time standing there in that thread if he is some engineer and cannot figure out at first glance its bs!!!
His technical integrity is also compromised standing there looking at Chris versing asking Thomas the same questions I have. The forum obviously should be renamed to crocoworld where fantasy and adventure live because that type of efficiency and 2s lipo def won't fly you any faster THIS year!

the "AMPGerd" will have his hand on his hips a long time standing there in that thread if he is some engineer and cannot figure out at first glance its bs!!!
His technical integrity is also compromised standing there looking at Chris versing asking Thomas the same questions I have. The forum obviously should be renamed to crocoworld where fantasy and adventure live because that type of efficiency and 2s lipo def won't fly you any faster THIS year!

Last edited by Clugh; 03-29-2023 at 12:44 PM.
#629
Senior Member

1984Kv motor turns a prop at 14000 rpm. The posted output is 6.4kW there so what was the voltage?
It is a simple question. It does not take 3 days to answer.
No one on remote control network.de where true genius lives is interested to know????

It is a simple question. It does not take 3 days to answer.
No one on remote control network.de where true genius lives is interested to know????

Last edited by Clugh; 03-29-2023 at 12:43 PM.
#630
Senior Member

What if he forgot to include he put his motor on a gear box at 10 or 12 s lipo Christian....LOL dude is a trp. I bet this dude tried to see how good your motor really is and loadced it without the gearbox on 2 slpo to turn the same prop. Which really shows how dynamite it is because it was just as efficient on the prop at 800-900 amperes when he was probably drawing 150 cheating with the gearbox
Thats what he did Christian. Or he just lied.
Thats what he did Christian. Or he just lied.
Last edited by Clugh; 03-29-2023 at 01:07 PM.
#631
Senior Member

HIS "TEST"
At 10-12 s lipo chris his 5;1 gearbox puts him right on cue. Stop wasting your time with squirrels okay?
1984 x 34 = 67,456
67,456 / 5 = 13,491
VS
your motor direct drive on 2 or 3 s lipo.
This is my other black karma intuition beside he lies. I know he does that at 64khz YGE 320's so I'm not sure which. Either way its a lie still. The probability leans towards a theoretical lie because I don't think he is that slick.
Either way they have disappeared and will not report the voltage at which the 6.4kw delivery occurred with a 500 gram 198Kv that turned 14000!
WHY?
At 10-12 s lipo chris his 5;1 gearbox puts him right on cue. Stop wasting your time with squirrels okay?
1984 x 34 = 67,456
67,456 / 5 = 13,491
VS
your motor direct drive on 2 or 3 s lipo.
This is my other black karma intuition beside he lies. I know he does that at 64khz YGE 320's so I'm not sure which. Either way its a lie still. The probability leans towards a theoretical lie because I don't think he is that slick.
Either way they have disappeared and will not report the voltage at which the 6.4kw delivery occurred with a 500 gram 198Kv that turned 14000!
WHY?

Last edited by Clugh; 03-29-2023 at 01:22 PM.
#632
Senior Member

I don't know where you all come from but in my world it really matters TO ME! in these discussions that I be honest.
This is why you and your entire fan base is an absolute joke and a waste of my time.
U got a bunch of mouth but never any relevant technical answers for ya bs!
NE WAY
I have projects to work on.
enjoy your evening staring and figuring out how to explain your latest lie in a series stemming 20 years.
What would I learn lying to myself that's DUMM az hell!
Regards,
Hubert
This is why you and your entire fan base is an absolute joke and a waste of my time.
U got a bunch of mouth but never any relevant technical answers for ya bs!
NE WAY
I have projects to work on.
enjoy your evening staring and figuring out how to explain your latest lie in a series stemming 20 years.
What would I learn lying to myself that's DUMM az hell!
Regards,
Hubert
Last edited by Clugh; 03-29-2023 at 02:04 PM.
#633
Senior Member

Christian,
Ya need to stop wastin ya time! And go hook ya castle up I'll have 4 XLXs. 1 Twin and 2 scales !. Im about to hit hard on GPS with this insane monoplane on twins @ 90,000! and show this individual what speed, power, and efficiency look like at 4xs that power level. Talk is cheap!
Its no mystery for my boats other than my own hand built motors...
On a consumer side
I'm comming with castle 1721's
Neumotors 1530's and 1539's
1 ,1/2, and 1/4 turns.
Point blank! Imma wait for yawl to finish typing!! U might as well throw that scorpion sht in the trash can! And ill show you what a POC can get here in America for 600 EURO!
Currently that's $650.40 USD !

Regards
Hubert
Ya need to stop wastin ya time! And go hook ya castle up I'll have 4 XLXs. 1 Twin and 2 scales !. Im about to hit hard on GPS with this insane monoplane on twins @ 90,000! and show this individual what speed, power, and efficiency look like at 4xs that power level. Talk is cheap!
Its no mystery for my boats other than my own hand built motors...
On a consumer side
I'm comming with castle 1721's
Neumotors 1530's and 1539's
1 ,1/2, and 1/4 turns.
Point blank! Imma wait for yawl to finish typing!! U might as well throw that scorpion sht in the trash can! And ill show you what a POC can get here in America for 600 EURO!
Currently that's $650.40 USD !

Regards
Hubert
Last edited by Clugh; 03-29-2023 at 02:08 PM.
#634
Senior Member

Four full days with zero activity or reply on any rc motor forum in the world.! Every one of them is standing here now Ralph. You do notice this thread at 30,000 now! Nothing has been posted about the Ops plane in a year.
Motors, ESC's, BEC's, Batteries & Chargers - FlyingGiants
Electric Motors Winding and Repair - HeliFreak
Electric motors | RC-Network.de
Electric Motor Design and Construction - RC Groups
Motor forum ghostowns
They said I stopped powercroco from posting in them. To me it was a good thing!!! But as you can see there is no activity in these forums for months and Im not there. Everyone of those trolls, squirrels , or whatever you call them sleep right here in this room.
They didn't want me there because the MODERATORS all spent there cash on Powercroco lies and felt took as a result!
Its funny because the majority of his posting there in the last 2 years have been directed squarely at me or Christian. Since my absence every post there was still in response to me.
Motors, ESC's, BEC's, Batteries & Chargers - FlyingGiants
Electric Motors Winding and Repair - HeliFreak
Electric motors | RC-Network.de
Electric Motor Design and Construction - RC Groups
Motor forum ghostowns
They said I stopped powercroco from posting in them. To me it was a good thing!!! But as you can see there is no activity in these forums for months and Im not there. Everyone of those trolls, squirrels , or whatever you call them sleep right here in this room.
They didn't want me there because the MODERATORS all spent there cash on Powercroco lies and felt took as a result!
Its funny because the majority of his posting there in the last 2 years have been directed squarely at me or Christian. Since my absence every post there was still in response to me.
Last edited by Clugh; 03-30-2023 at 04:21 AM.
#635
Senior Member

U all know Ohms Law the man got caught lying again. U can hate me for it. But you still pile in here for the same lessons that was already posted on everyone of them years ago and you all chose the German lie over your own country!
And thats what you get.
Powercroco
Iron losses 280.9 watts
Copper losses.3 watts
Esc 7.2 watt
The battery loses 2.4 watts
His power density is 50.18 Kmē/g
His Kt is 4.81 mNm/amp
Km .1552 Nm/sqrt watts
Maxon eq 1.92 Max Eta 93%
Clugh
Now Black Karma "POC" Edition
Total losses 74.6 !
Copper .1 watts
Iron 73.6 watts
Esc .8 watts
Battery .1 watt
Kt= 11.55m Nm/amp
Km = .1639 Nm/Sqrt watts
Power Density 59.88[Kmē/g]
Maxon Eq 1.92 Max Eta 96%
And thats what you get.
Powercroco
Iron losses 280.9 watts

Copper losses.3 watts

Esc 7.2 watt

The battery loses 2.4 watts

His power density is 50.18 Kmē/g
His Kt is 4.81 mNm/amp
Km .1552 Nm/sqrt watts
Maxon eq 1.92 Max Eta 93%
Clugh
Now Black Karma "POC" Edition

Total losses 74.6 !

Copper .1 watts

Iron 73.6 watts

Esc .8 watts

Battery .1 watt

Kt= 11.55m Nm/amp
Km = .1639 Nm/Sqrt watts
Power Density 59.88[Kmē/g]
Maxon Eq 1.92 Max Eta 96%

Last edited by Clugh; 03-30-2023 at 04:23 AM.
#636
Senior Member

Talk about politically correct who says "your people of color friend and POC is the term to describe people like him" you read that and purchase him so you're no real American. Like my Uncles that died for this country and my parent that worked like dogs and live legitimately . Not a penny came from lies deceit of cheating any one of YOU!
AT LEASE "WE" HAVE INTEGRITY! AND KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT!
He is extremely ignorant as a PHYSICIAN because white is also in the Crayola box unless his moma removed it from his when he was a child!
So damn smart but black is actually absent of any color. If he knew how to build a QTI bar code or QR scan device circuit then he'd know that but Ralph has no training in fiber optics or electronics so he knows nothing about building inverters, digital protocols, glass resonance, snells law etc. They dont even know Ohms Law so he really cannot talk with me at any great length about much.
They clearly cannot do basic arithmetic so Boolean algebra is out of the question.
They talk about inverters but cannot build any they talk about hybrid winds but cannot wind any..
Whats real about that?
AT LEASE "WE" HAVE INTEGRITY! AND KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT!
He is extremely ignorant as a PHYSICIAN because white is also in the Crayola box unless his moma removed it from his when he was a child!
So damn smart but black is actually absent of any color. If he knew how to build a QTI bar code or QR scan device circuit then he'd know that but Ralph has no training in fiber optics or electronics so he knows nothing about building inverters, digital protocols, glass resonance, snells law etc. They dont even know Ohms Law so he really cannot talk with me at any great length about much.
They clearly cannot do basic arithmetic so Boolean algebra is out of the question.
They talk about inverters but cannot build any they talk about hybrid winds but cannot wind any..
Whats real about that?
Last edited by Clugh; 03-30-2023 at 05:27 AM.
#637
Senior Member

Come on Boyz, who do you think all these 'Guest are" ???


You can hate it but The American won this round.
the inverter and torque cradle is nearing 4000 already
".....just typing wont beat it....."
~Clugh~


You can hate it but The American won this round.
the inverter and torque cradle is nearing 4000 already
".....just typing wont beat it....."
~Clugh~
Last edited by Clugh; 03-30-2023 at 04:55 AM.
#638
Senior Member


If im going to spend > 650.00 then Ill be looking here.
You really have to be out of ya mind for the BLACK and GOLD
Its also so much dark symbolism it that its scary!
It represents the original theft.
Last edited by Clugh; 03-30-2023 at 05:10 AM.
#639
Senior Member

Put it in ya damn speedplane calculators with the PRO HV APD or Castle Hydra Ice HV 200 v2 and see where America is at....
Last edited by Clugh; 03-30-2023 at 05:06 AM.
#640
Senior Member

1530: 2,750-5,500 watt brushless motors
Price: $ 428.00 + options each. Volume discount available.1533: 3,000-6,000 watt brushless motors
Price: $ 493.00 + options each. Volume discount available.1536: 3,250-6,500 watt brushless motors
Price: $ 504.00 + options each. Volume discount available.1539: 3,500-7,000 watt brushless motors
Price: $ 515.00 + options each. Volume discount available.So why does DZHAMEL run only a 1527 in the Elysium??
Why would you pay 650.00 for 93% efficiency. These certainly aren't THAT!
I will never do it! I promise you.
Last edited by Clugh; 03-30-2023 at 05:31 AM.
#641
Senior Member

He also doesn't want you on his site but you don't need to be there anyway..
I will not allow my decisions to defy logic for the myth of Powercroco....
Regards
Hubert
I will not allow my decisions to defy logic for the myth of Powercroco....

Regards
Hubert
Last edited by Clugh; 03-30-2023 at 05:33 AM.
#642
Senior Member

Lucien sells a Cobra 14 pole 4130 Outrunner for 90 dollars and its 95% efficient. You sound high. I promise you with $ 540.00 saved I can change the pms to laminated ones from Arnold or Snakelines wind a hybrid and absolutely destroy the black and gold. As a designer id be fine to let him have his CoFe stack Id still create the alpha iron solid core for pennies It has plenty of permeability as much as any silicon steel on market but is not conductive. The graphite nodules should also enhance thermal conductivity. The coercivity of the material is also very very low. The correct wind is also going to reduce any reasonable cores and pm losses to such an extent anyway CoFe stacks with an antiquated winding won't win anything. they have not gained him much anyway based on his own data. With the Alpha iron I could run hammerless heads insert the rectangular PLC coil then finish with a composite hammer that glues or locks in place. What that would do is reduce the iron loss with no REAL hammer tips but also reduce the slot leakage as I could totally close the slot with a material at 2 mu. A different core material with the same radial tooth geometry does not mitigate the source of the geometries eddy current generation in the first place. You have to overlap the phases or change the slot geometry. The parallel slot shows a more even current density in the turns from the top to the bottom of the slot.
Last edited by Clugh; 03-30-2023 at 06:06 AM.
#643
Senior Member


Based on the real engineering Drs work I could take Christian's slot let the rectangular coil sit a bit shallow which needs to happen to clear the gap anyway and glue a piece of Magnovol on each slot at the top and have even better performance across the range.

Last edited by Clugh; 03-30-2023 at 06:22 AM.
#644
Senior Member


The vehicle is immaterial.
Perhaps this would have been their unified creation if they had joined the rest of the world of color and learned how to work together.
Last edited by Clugh; 03-30-2023 at 06:39 AM.
#645
Senior Member

Powercroco
Iron losses 280.9 watts
Copper losses.3 watts
Esc 7.2 watt
The battery loses 2.4 watts
His power density is 50.18 Kmē/g
His Kt is 4.81 mNm/amp
Km .1552 Nm/sqrt watts
Maxon eq 1.92 Max Eta 93%
Clugh
Now Black Karma "POC" Edition
Total losses 74.6 !
Copper .1 watts
Iron 73.6 watts
Esc .8 watts
Battery .1 watt
Kt= 11.55m Nm/amp
Km = .1639 Nm/Sqrt watts
Power Density 59.88[Kmē/g]
Maxon Eq 1.92 Max Eta 96%

Wassup crocoworld! Day 4 where is Audiosmith and Ralph with the voltage? Are they hiding out in plain view now? I have checked all the motor forums and cannot find the mouth anywhere.
Iron losses 280.9 watts

Copper losses.3 watts

Esc 7.2 watt

The battery loses 2.4 watts

His power density is 50.18 Kmē/g
His Kt is 4.81 mNm/amp
Km .1552 Nm/sqrt watts
Maxon eq 1.92 Max Eta 93%
Clugh
Now Black Karma "POC" Edition

Total losses 74.6 !

Copper .1 watts

Iron 73.6 watts

Esc .8 watts

Battery .1 watt

Kt= 11.55m Nm/amp
Km = .1639 Nm/Sqrt watts
Power Density 59.88[Kmē/g]
Maxon Eq 1.92 Max Eta 96%

Wassup crocoworld! Day 4 where is Audiosmith and Ralph with the voltage? Are they hiding out in plain view now? I have checked all the motor forums and cannot find the mouth anywhere.


Last edited by Clugh; 03-30-2023 at 07:07 AM.
#646
Senior Member


You will certainly find out because I'm certainly going the have this and the real flussperren split tooth14 pole stack cut and mount it directly to the cobra with the magnets etc. and measure it with real measure.
#647
Senior Member


What you need to finally see then is a high efficiency hand built motor and inverter from Clugh. And you will see that much sooner than 20 years. The inverter above Is the Zubax Valenok A MitochondrikLV telega based design. It is rated continuous 96 volts 8 kW.
Last edited by Clugh; 03-30-2023 at 08:20 AM.
#648
Senior Member

WAS
fast enough for the WR.
Thats key.
Neu's distributed wind with a Kw of 1 has several current! thats been ongoing....
So don't be confused keep turning the high idle thrash you'd like.... Newsflash It doesn't matter to anyone...
Definitely not me......
Clugh
Black Karma Align "POC" Edition
Total losses 74.6 !
Copper .1 watts
Iron 73.6 watts
Esc .8 watts
Battery .1 watt
Kt= 11.55m Nm/amp
Km = .1639 Nm/Sqrt watts
Power Density 59.88[Kmē/g]
Maxon Eq 1.92 Max Eta 96%

fast enough for the WR.
Thats key.
Neu's distributed wind with a Kw of 1 has several current! thats been ongoing....
So don't be confused keep turning the high idle thrash you'd like.... Newsflash It doesn't matter to anyone...
Definitely not me......

Clugh
Black Karma Align "POC" Edition

Total losses 74.6 !

Copper .1 watts

Iron 73.6 watts

Esc .8 watts

Battery .1 watt

Kt= 11.55m Nm/amp
Km = .1639 Nm/Sqrt watts
Power Density 59.88[Kmē/g]
Maxon Eq 1.92 Max Eta 96%

Last edited by Clugh; 03-30-2023 at 10:12 AM.
#650
Senior Member


The one that sank 981 amperes without desynchronization on 2s lipo.of course.. What was the voltage Ralph....I know black karma is eating you alive..... What was the voltage at 6.4kw on the 1984 kv motor at 14000 rpm sir??? fort the 10th time. You can post this but post that!!! I want them to see you clearly bub.