DC F-20
11-18-2003, 07:09 PM
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RE: DC F-20
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Has anyone installed retracts in a DC F-20 ARC?
Tom
Has anyone installed retracts in a DC F-20 ARC?
Tom
11-19-2003, 08:39 AM
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RE: DC F-20
Don't know bout the retract thing but I'm wondering if this is really balsa?
Sure seems heavy and hard.A lot of sanding is in order...Yours the same way???
Thanx Walt
Sure seems heavy and hard.A lot of sanding is in order...Yours the same way???
Thanx Walt
11-19-2003, 08:40 AM
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RE: DC F-20
Don't know bout the retract thing but I'm wondering if this is really balsa?
Sure seems heavy and hard.A lot of sanding is in order...Yours the same way???
Thanx Walt
Sure seems heavy and hard.A lot of sanding is in order...Yours the same way???
Thanx Walt
11-19-2003, 08:51 AM
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RE: DC F-20
Don't have it yet. The ARC kit is supposed to be balsa/ply with skinned foam cores. In the past I've seen foam cores skinned with obechi wood. It's kind of like super thin plywood, like 1/64" skins.
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11-19-2003, 09:06 AM
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RE: DC F-20
So that's what it is!!! I knew it was not balsa and appears heavy...It's a lot like the VMAR Edge I bought a while back. All the press was bad and all said it was not made of balsa but some kind of heavy wood..They were rite but I have no complaints with it.It's heavy but flies great.A bit slow but I expected that.
I haven't really got started on the F yet but sure wish the instruction book was a little clearer.I say that,but it IS an ARC..We'll see as soon as I finish this dang Viper that I'm running out of patience with..
Have a good one
Walt
I haven't really got started on the F yet but sure wish the instruction book was a little clearer.I say that,but it IS an ARC..We'll see as soon as I finish this dang Viper that I'm running out of patience with..
Have a good one
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11-19-2003, 09:48 AM
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RE: DC F-20
Would this be a good or bad choice as a first speed plane? How stable is it at lower speeds. Do you have to install the landing gear as retracts? What would the top speed be with a Jett 50?
11-19-2003, 10:31 AM
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RE: DC F-20
It comes with fixed gear blocks installed in the wings already, so I'll have to cut them out to install the Spring Airs. No biggie, I've done it before. All the posts I've read on this model say it's rock solid. I can't think of any reason it wouldn't make a first time speeder.
Tom
P.S. Along with the Spring Airs, I plan on a Jett .50 myself.
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P.S. Along with the Spring Airs, I plan on a Jett .50 myself.
11-19-2003, 10:33 AM
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RE: DC F-20
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
So that's what it is!!! I knew it was not balsa and appears heavy...It's a lot like the VMAR Edge I bought a while back. All the press was bad and all said it was not made of balsa but some kind of heavy wood..They were rite but I have no complaints with it.It's heavy but flies great.A bit slow but I expected that.
I haven't really got started on the F yet but sure wish the instruction book was a little clearer.I say that,but it IS an ARC..We'll see as soon as I finish this dang Viper that I'm running out of patience with..
Have a good one
Walt
So that's what it is!!! I knew it was not balsa and appears heavy...It's a lot like the VMAR Edge I bought a while back. All the press was bad and all said it was not made of balsa but some kind of heavy wood..They were rite but I have no complaints with it.It's heavy but flies great.A bit slow but I expected that.
I haven't really got started on the F yet but sure wish the instruction book was a little clearer.I say that,but it IS an ARC..We'll see as soon as I finish this dang Viper that I'm running out of patience with..
Have a good one
Walt
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11-19-2003, 03:09 PM
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RE: DC F-20
I haven't started the F-20 yet.I'm finishing up a Viper and bout two weeks ago finished up on the GP Patriot.I was ready to test fly the Patriot and fried the Tx plugging a 1650 mah hidride in it..Dumb,dumb,dumb.
The Patriot was an easy builder from a kit and all went well.It's got an MVVS 49.It'll have to wait till I get the Tx back from Futaba.
Judging from just picking up the parts of this F it's got to be heavy.Heavier than the Patriot.
I tell you what.I'm talkin from experience here (what little I have) but I had the Champion 45L for two years and it's a good first time speed plane too or even if your famailiar with the speed stuff it's a mover,espcially for the price of 169.I just had the TT 46 Pro on it and it really got with the program and could fly slow as well.If I had not bought this F-20 I'd gotten the Champion and put this Jet 50 in it.
For those that are afraid to put out that kind of money (I certainly was) the Jet is a work of art and from all the engines I've had they don't begin to compare to the Jet,especially the 50.I haven't had them all but have had the Rossi's,MVVS,Irvine,Thunder Tiger and theres not much comparison
Be back tonite.
Walt
The Patriot was an easy builder from a kit and all went well.It's got an MVVS 49.It'll have to wait till I get the Tx back from Futaba.
Judging from just picking up the parts of this F it's got to be heavy.Heavier than the Patriot.
I tell you what.I'm talkin from experience here (what little I have) but I had the Champion 45L for two years and it's a good first time speed plane too or even if your famailiar with the speed stuff it's a mover,espcially for the price of 169.I just had the TT 46 Pro on it and it really got with the program and could fly slow as well.If I had not bought this F-20 I'd gotten the Champion and put this Jet 50 in it.
For those that are afraid to put out that kind of money (I certainly was) the Jet is a work of art and from all the engines I've had they don't begin to compare to the Jet,especially the 50.I haven't had them all but have had the Rossi's,MVVS,Irvine,Thunder Tiger and theres not much comparison
Be back tonite.
Walt
11-21-2003, 07:31 PM
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RE: DC F-20
Cyclic, do you have any pics you'de like to share on the retract installation? Maybe a shot of the bottom of the plane. Is that a Jett .50? Do you have a radar clock on it yet? Nice looking plane btw.
Tom
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11-21-2003, 08:13 PM
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RE: DC F-20
Sorry but no pictures. The wing gear was a no brainer. The nose gear is where the problems arise. There is not much room up front. My original retract servo was right where the front of the wing goes into the fuse. The rod went up front under the tank. Well this made the tank rather high and siphoned fuel into the carb. I was so sick of fooling with it i actually stored it for over a year.
Then a couple of us brain stormed a good one. The retract normally retracts to the rear and the pull rod is also on the same side. Well i took the retract apart and put the pull rod facing the nose with the gear still retracting aft. I then put the retract servo right behind the firewall. My control rod is only 1inch long but all works great and I lowered the fuel tank at least and inch and everything is fine.
That Jett .50 is the best engine for this plane.-I still have some film left on my Bashed Miss America/Miss USA. I'll try and get some shots but it may be a couple weeks.
Then a couple of us brain stormed a good one. The retract normally retracts to the rear and the pull rod is also on the same side. Well i took the retract apart and put the pull rod facing the nose with the gear still retracting aft. I then put the retract servo right behind the firewall. My control rod is only 1inch long but all works great and I lowered the fuel tank at least and inch and everything is fine.
That Jett .50 is the best engine for this plane.-I still have some film left on my Bashed Miss America/Miss USA. I'll try and get some shots but it may be a couple weeks.
11-21-2003, 08:25 PM
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RE: DC F-20
In pix #26 of the DC/F-20 instruction pamphlet what are the two top pieces??
The one on the rite looking at the parts list is the wing servo tray.I usually just put a piece of 1/8 (or thicker) ply across the hole to mount the servo too and have had no problems. Am I safe here??
I don't have the top left piece at all.What is it for?? Don't see it in the book.
Before covering, the book says to put a coat of thinned Balsarite. I always use Balsarite and then sand smooth.Why does it say "thinned"?? Can't you just use it out of the can?? What did yall do here??
Thanx a mil'
Walt
The one on the rite looking at the parts list is the wing servo tray.I usually just put a piece of 1/8 (or thicker) ply across the hole to mount the servo too and have had no problems. Am I safe here??
I don't have the top left piece at all.What is it for?? Don't see it in the book.
Before covering, the book says to put a coat of thinned Balsarite. I always use Balsarite and then sand smooth.Why does it say "thinned"?? Can't you just use it out of the can?? What did yall do here??
Thanx a mil'
Walt
11-21-2003, 09:16 PM
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RE: DC F-20
Thanks, I plan on using Spring Airs so I shouldn't have the nose gear/fuel tank/retract servo interference problem.
Tom
P.S. Cyclic, I just read a post from you on another thread and you stated that your DC F-20 was an ARC and it came with the retract wells pre cut. That's strange, when I ordered mine earlier this week the guy said that fixed gear blocks were installed. What gives?
Tom
P.S. Cyclic, I just read a post from you on another thread and you stated that your DC F-20 was an ARC and it came with the retract wells pre cut. That's strange, when I ordered mine earlier this week the guy said that fixed gear blocks were installed. What gives?
ORIGINAL: Cyclic Hardover
Sorry but no pictures. The wing gear was a no brainer. The nose gear is where the problems arise. There is not much room up front. My original retract servo was right where the front of the wing goes into the fuse. The rod went up front under the tank. Well this made the tank rather high and siphoned fuel into the carb. I was so sick of fooling with it i actually stored it for over a year.
Then a couple of us brain stormed a good one. The retract normally retracts to the rear and the pull rod is also on the same side. Well i took the retract apart and put the pull rod facing the nose with the gear still retracting aft. I then put the retract servo right behind the firewall. My control rod is only 1inch long but all works great and I lowered the fuel tank at least and inch and everything is fine.
That Jett .50 is the best engine for this plane.-I still have some film left on my Bashed Miss America/Miss USA. I'll try and get some shots but it may be a couple weeks.
Sorry but no pictures. The wing gear was a no brainer. The nose gear is where the problems arise. There is not much room up front. My original retract servo was right where the front of the wing goes into the fuse. The rod went up front under the tank. Well this made the tank rather high and siphoned fuel into the carb. I was so sick of fooling with it i actually stored it for over a year.
Then a couple of us brain stormed a good one. The retract normally retracts to the rear and the pull rod is also on the same side. Well i took the retract apart and put the pull rod facing the nose with the gear still retracting aft. I then put the retract servo right behind the firewall. My control rod is only 1inch long but all works great and I lowered the fuel tank at least and inch and everything is fine.
That Jett .50 is the best engine for this plane.-I still have some film left on my Bashed Miss America/Miss USA. I'll try and get some shots but it may be a couple weeks.
11-22-2003, 07:34 PM
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RE: DC F-20
Not sure. Mine is about 3 years old but when a bunch of us ordered them. They had two versions, a box of wood or an ARC which we got. Actually I forgot what went on about the wheel wells but do this for sure. Wherever your suppose to mount them, move them out about another inch otherwise the narrow base will make for one heck of a take off roll.
