Combat Models F-16
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Found another suggestion "over there":
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NeuMotor 1912 2Y-400($200) can do it easy with 6s2p 4400mah 20cs @ 40 amps( cc45hv) on a 14X12 apc. Need seperate BEC for this setup
This should move an 8lb jet at over 70mph
You could also goto 9s2p and use smaller props.. and get even more speed and still be in the 40 amps zone.
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14X12 is probably more prop than you really want there.
I think you should go for at least 1000W, while keeping an eye on the weight.
edit: not sure what he means by "6s2p 4400mah ". I think current 4000 mAh LiPos can take 40A pretty easy.
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NeuMotor 1912 2Y-400($200) can do it easy with 6s2p 4400mah 20cs @ 40 amps( cc45hv) on a 14X12 apc. Need seperate BEC for this setup
This should move an 8lb jet at over 70mph
You could also goto 9s2p and use smaller props.. and get even more speed and still be in the 40 amps zone.
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14X12 is probably more prop than you really want there.
I think you should go for at least 1000W, while keeping an eye on the weight.
edit: not sure what he means by "6s2p 4400mah ". I think current 4000 mAh LiPos can take 40A pretty easy.
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6s2p 4400mah means the battery is made out of 6 cells in series on 2 parallel, 12 cells total, with 4400Mah total
6s2p 4400mah means the battery is made out of 6 cells in series on 2 parallel, 12 cells total, with 4400Mah total
Anyway, that suggestion was for a prop that is too big, hanging at the back of the plane, I think. It needs a smaller prop, which again means you need a "hotter" motor or more Volts.
If you want to consider http://www.neumotors.com , I think their site has a calculator for power systems. The site is a bit heavy, in my opinion (loads slowly).
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I am planning to sell my CBM F16, in the Portland area, and was wondering what you guys think it is worth. It is nearly complete but needs a paint job and electronics. Everything else is new and installed, including retracts, YS .45 and tuned exhaust. Thanks for your input.
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G;day Bucshot, Mate is there any chance of getting a f-16n cbm manual copied from you as well, the manual i have has several pages missing and no templates
etc, I have no chance of getting one from over here in Australia, even a scanned electronic copy would be great, desprite now. Please help someone
etc, I have no chance of getting one from over here in Australia, even a scanned electronic copy would be great, desprite now. Please help someone
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This would be great, Can't see a problem with this type of file, Maybe the file size but can be divided up and sent.
This is a great help and very much appreciated, This manual has been a problem for a long time, Thanks again Dan..
This is a great help and very much appreciated, This manual has been a problem for a long time, Thanks again Dan..
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Hey everyone haven't posted on here in mounths, been busy. Just wanted to how my f-16 progress, its about 97% finished. I worked on and burnt yself out so I took a break, but its ready for radio/engine install. I got a nice tune pipe that has the turn around in from macs mufflers which cost me an arm and leg, but it was worth it. The missilse still need to be finished but that no biggy, cant wait to fly it. Im worried about the weight its going to be over 8lbs which is a good bit more than it should, dont know how but it is so it may not fly to well, but it will deff look good screaming by alteast once. I think im going to try and find another one and pay alot of attention to make it light.
So if anyone has an extra complete f-16 or f-18 even I would be interested in buying it. Oh yeah that reminds me I got my CBM f-18 retract the other day, and that are awsume dont get any more scale LOL had them made for about 500.00 but owell its only money hehe so enjoy the pics let me know what u think of my "CRAZY FROG" Combat Models f-16N
So if anyone has an extra complete f-16 or f-18 even I would be interested in buying it. Oh yeah that reminds me I got my CBM f-18 retract the other day, and that are awsume dont get any more scale LOL had them made for about 500.00 but owell its only money hehe so enjoy the pics let me know what u think of my "CRAZY FROG" Combat Models f-16N

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Well, after going through a period thinking I would sell my kit, I decided that I really wanted to finish it. Today was its first flight, and it blew my socks off on take off! I have a YS .45 with internal tuned pipe and I wasn't sure what to expect, but it was near vertical for a few hundred feet just after takeoff and looked awesome. That flight alone was worth all the work. I can't wait to take it out again and get some more air time.
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I have a Nitro Model bobcat with an OS 75 and the plane weight 6 1/2 lbs It fly well and pretty fast but I alwasy like more speed. I F-16 is listed to weight 8-9 lbs and wonder l. I was wonder what speed I would get with OS 75 on this plane.
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First, the OS 75 is not an rpm oriented engine. This aircraft requires a small prop and lots of rpm.
The ideal engine for use on this plane is the YS45 - only way to accomodate the very goofy fuel system, and develop good power.
Possble alternate is the Jett 50 or 60LX and a revised fuel system. (the 60LX was first developed for this aircraft).
Anything else weights more and/or performs less, and you are absolutely limited to a 10" maximum prop diameter.
The CBM F-16 was a fun project in its day ----- but its day was 10-15 years ago.
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The CBM F-16 was a fun project in its day ----- but its day was 10-15 years ago.
Bob with the above statement being said would be the right/ideal prop jet out today. My only exprience is with my NitroPlane bobcat 50. I want to get into jet, but have to do it the prop way for now until I can affort the real deal.
Bob with the above statement being said would be the right/ideal prop jet out today. My only exprience is with my NitroPlane bobcat 50. I want to get into jet, but have to do it the prop way for now until I can affort the real deal.
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First, the OS 75 is not an rpm oriented engine. This aircraft requires a small prop and lots of rpm.
The ideal engine for use on this plane is the YS45 - only way to accomodate the very goofy fuel system, and develop good power.
Possble alternate is the Jett 50 or 60LX and a revised fuel system. (the 60LX was first developed for this aircraft).
Anything else weights more and/or performs less, and you are absolutely limited to a 10" maximum prop diameter.
The CBM F-16 was a fun project in its day ----- but its day was 10-15 years ago.
First, the OS 75 is not an rpm oriented engine. This aircraft requires a small prop and lots of rpm.
The ideal engine for use on this plane is the YS45 - only way to accomodate the very goofy fuel system, and develop good power.
Possble alternate is the Jett 50 or 60LX and a revised fuel system. (the 60LX was first developed for this aircraft).
Anything else weights more and/or performs less, and you are absolutely limited to a 10" maximum prop diameter.
The CBM F-16 was a fun project in its day ----- but its day was 10-15 years ago.
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thanks Vicman I did look at the Patriot tonight and I like it.
I look up the other you listed as well again thanks
I look up the other you listed as well again thanks
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Patriot, F-20 arfs, or the Juno F-20 for starters.
Patriot, F-20 arfs, or the Juno F-20 for starters.

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Alright gentlemen,
After years of looking at this Pusher Jet, I finally found one built. My problem is there is no instructions. I don't know how much it weighs.
QUESTION !!!>>>>>>> 1) The motor is mounted upside down. and 2) The motor has a downward thrust angle.
The gentleman has reasured me that he built it "per instructions" but I dunno.........PLEASE any input would be appreciated!
I'm about to buy it today...I hope the degrees of down thrust is accurate and needed.
also........******** Can I buy a COPY of the instructions for this pusher jet from anyone??????*********
Kevin
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After years of looking at this Pusher Jet, I finally found one built. My problem is there is no instructions. I don't know how much it weighs.
QUESTION !!!>>>>>>> 1) The motor is mounted upside down. and 2) The motor has a downward thrust angle.
The gentleman has reasured me that he built it "per instructions" but I dunno.........PLEASE any input would be appreciated!
I'm about to buy it today...I hope the degrees of down thrust is accurate and needed.
also........******** Can I buy a COPY of the instructions for this pusher jet from anyone??????*********
Kevin
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I am finishing up my cbm F-16. Been having the kit for a few years and finally got the time to complete it. I am going to put a YS 60 2 stroke with tuned pipe. I got the engine from my first cbm f-16 that I bought rtf. The guy I bought it from said he clocked it at 130 mph. I was to scared to fly it so I let my dad do the first flight and we lost it in a turn too far away and couldnt tell the top from the bottom. Hopefully I will be luckier with this one. KEV, Send me me a PM with your address and I will make a copy of my instruction book and mail it to you. Pictures of my first CBM f-16 is in post 219 of this thread.
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Hi Folks,
i have a CBM F'16 kit sitting in my garage for about 5 years, after reading this post i am very encouraged to build the Kit, several folks have told me to sell it and buy a different F 16 Kit, but i still think that this kit could be developed to be a great performer, now with the available electric motors I beleive that it would be more simple.
I purchased two years ago a Jett 60LX for this airframe, but i red that there were problems with the fuel lines, i needed to add a fuel pump, etc...
I now plan to use a high power electric engine that could deliver the max RPMs for an APC 12X7 propeller...
What i though was to use the Neu Motor 1915-2Y with a 6s2p 4400mah, is this a good configuration?
Thanks.
i have a CBM F'16 kit sitting in my garage for about 5 years, after reading this post i am very encouraged to build the Kit, several folks have told me to sell it and buy a different F 16 Kit, but i still think that this kit could be developed to be a great performer, now with the available electric motors I beleive that it would be more simple.
I purchased two years ago a Jett 60LX for this airframe, but i red that there were problems with the fuel lines, i needed to add a fuel pump, etc...
I now plan to use a high power electric engine that could deliver the max RPMs for an APC 12X7 propeller...
What i though was to use the Neu Motor 1915-2Y with a 6s2p 4400mah, is this a good configuration?
Thanks.