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Old 11-08-2006, 11:05 AM
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Since you already built one of these you alreadyt know that the nose is HEAVY. If you can manage it get as much to the rear as you can. I really wish I had installed retracts in mine. Problem is I got lazy and cheap... I'm still cheap so I guess mine will have to wait for a retrofit.
Old 11-10-2006, 02:05 AM
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SmokinT,
Have you about got that plane done yet? Fingers are itchn& an twichin. I'll meet you over yonder, and will have us a shoot out! Give me a call!!
Later,
One wing low
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:16 AM
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Thanks hummingbird, buzz, Ken...I'm going to try to make it as light as possible. Have slowed down on building but here we go again:
Fun with cap strips...
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:19 AM
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Despite trying to weigh everything as the wings were built, the right wing is 7% heavier than the left wing! Oh well...
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:21 AM
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The joining of the wings, and the discovery of a problem...
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:26 AM
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Despite using the included dihedral gauge on both root ribs...
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:31 AM
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If you follow the instructions, then this is what you get...
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:34 AM
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I can't sand that gap out, it's just too big. If you block up the tip just ~ 1/2" (instead of 1 1/8"), the fit of the root ribs is a lot better...
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:37 AM
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Here is how the bottom gap looks comparing the 1 1/8" vs 1/2"...
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:40 AM
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I think I ran into this with my first Patriot. I just glued it together as was; it flew fine (by my standards!). Unless someone has a better idea, I think I'm just gluing it together at 1/2". I'm not real worried about roll-coupling, etc. I'm just worried about going fast. Really fast.
Old 11-14-2006, 12:42 AM
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How the glued center brace fits, just fine...
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Old 11-14-2006, 09:15 AM
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Smoking that is no problem, just cut and glue a thin piece of balsa 1/16" to the end rib of each wing and sand to fit. This will give you some extra wood to get the joint right. I wouldn't want that much epoxy in that joint because it will add too much weight. However, I am with you I would just lower the dihedral till the joint matched and glue her together. Yo probally won't even notice it.
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Smokin, I have seen a Patriot fly that had the wings clipped a little. I am not saying that I would do that but the guys plane was much faster than mine and he had flown it for over 10 years with an OS VFR 46 that he had installed a ducted fan sleve in. This plane will head toward the ground if the engine quits anyway. I have head a couple of deadsticks with mine and was able to get her in but luckily I had some altitude.
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Hey Buzz,

I didn't think of shimming up the center ribs with scrap balsa and then sanding but that's a good idea. I just went ahead and glued them up with less dihedral. Hopefully will make for easier inverted flight . I worked a little on the wing tips for later and am also going to start the tail feathers soon. I need to get some serious progress done this weekend.
How did your friend clip his Patriot's wings? Did he just shorten it by a rib or two? I think I'm going to clip the ailerons some but I think I'll leave the span as is...

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Old 11-16-2006, 12:19 PM
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I think he took off the last rib and installed the wing tip. I landed well and flew very good.. He also used the plyon pizza cutter wheels.
Old 11-21-2006, 03:06 AM
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Finishing the top center section sheeting after joining the wings...
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Filling in the gap from the dihedral...
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:10 AM
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The center block...
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:13 AM
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Working on the aileron control horn blocks and bearings. I know there are better ways than torque rods but I'd like to keep everything inside and minimize drag...
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:18 AM
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Fiberglassing the center section with thin CA. This works great and adds little weight but be sure you do this where there is a breeze, this much CA will do more than clear the sinuses. Also a good idea to wear a mask when sanding fiberglass...
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Well, the building has been slow recently and my motivation has been marginal. Then this showed up on the doorstep today...
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:23 AM
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At proptop's suggestion I ordered this little motor ...
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It's not the BSE Signature Series but it still looks great and the man himself still signed it
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:31 AM
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I have a couple of older SJ .46 motors that I bought a few years back to go into a Pica Duellist. Here are some comparison shots of the .60LX and the .46 as well as their respective mufflers...
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